The Big Takeover

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I just saw the Zeitgeist: The Movie.

I thought it was enlightening, troubling, disturbing and depressing. I feel utterly helpless and frustrated and even scared.

Thanks for sharing. I suggest anyone on the brink of suicide not see it. They should make a list for Suicide Hotlines of movies not to see and this should be on the top of the list.

This movie should come w/a warning and should be rated D for depressing.

I’m not sure if I even want to take 2 hours of my life to watch The Addendum.

I do think the movie should be watched by any pschopaths, perhaps Manson-types, who maybe would attempt to take down any of the powers that be mentioned in the movie.

[CA renter]

[quote=arraya]CAR-I originally thought is was misguided as well and I agree. But I can tell you did not watch the video. IMO, there is some very suspicious particulars to the trades in the final days. [/quote]

You are correct, and I apologize for spouting off without complete information. Just quickly checking the site earlier and (without checking the link) wanted to stick up for fellow short-sellers. 🙂

Will check it out right now.

[CA renter]

[quote=arraya]CAR-I originally thought is was misguided as well and I agree. But I can tell you did not watch the video. IMO, there is some very suspicious particulars to the trades in the final days. [/quote]

You are correct, and I apologize for spouting off without complete information. Just quickly checking the site earlier and (without checking the link) wanted to stick up for fellow short-sellers. 🙂

Will check it out right now.

[CA renter]

[quote=arraya]CAR-I originally thought is was misguided as well and I agree. But I can tell you did not watch the video. IMO, there is some very suspicious particulars to the trades in the final days. [/quote]

You are correct, and I apologize for spouting off without complete information. Just quickly checking the site earlier and (without checking the link) wanted to stick up for fellow short-sellers. 🙂

Will check it out right now.

[CA renter]

[quote=arraya]CAR-I originally thought is was misguided as well and I agree. But I can tell you did not watch the video. IMO, there is some very suspicious particulars to the trades in the final days. [/quote]

You are correct, and I apologize for spouting off without complete information. Just quickly checking the site earlier and (without checking the link) wanted to stick up for fellow short-sellers. 🙂

Will check it out right now.

[CA renter]

[quote=arraya]CAR-I originally thought is was misguided as well and I agree. But I can tell you did not watch the video. IMO, there is some very suspicious particulars to the trades in the final days. [/quote]

You are correct, and I apologize for spouting off without complete information. Just quickly checking the site earlier and (without checking the link) wanted to stick up for fellow short-sellers. 🙂

Will check it out right now.

[sd_matt]

I distracted myself from the contents by being floored that Rolling Stone actually printed something of substance. Not the usual Republican bashing. I’m still getting over that.

[sd_matt]

I distracted myself from the contents by being floored that Rolling Stone actually printed something of substance. Not the usual Republican bashing. I’m still getting over that.

[sd_matt]

I distracted myself from the contents by being floored that Rolling Stone actually printed something of substance. Not the usual Republican bashing. I’m still getting over that.

[sd_matt]

I distracted myself from the contents by being floored that Rolling Stone actually printed something of substance. Not the usual Republican bashing. I’m still getting over that.

[sd_matt]

I distracted myself from the contents by being floored that Rolling Stone actually printed something of substance. Not the usual Republican bashing. I’m still getting over that.

[CA renter]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Jp: http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJournal/fluke-credit-crisis-was-a-heist.aspx

I don’t know if you’ve read the Jim Jubak article in MSN Money yet, but, like the Rolling Stone article, this is well researched and it will make you just as heartsick and angry.

I think the real investigations are about to begin, and I think that the truly hard questions haven’t been asked yet. I think Obama is in a tough spot, any way you cut it. He can attempt to soothe us with comforting words and bring this thing down gently, or he can do what he needs to do, which is bring this entire house of cards down. I’m pretty sure which direction he’ll go.[/quote]

This was an excellent article, Allan, and spot-on, IMHO. Thank you for sharing it.

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Also, finally got through the video on short sellers. Yes, definitely agree there was manipulation and insider trading. But to think that Bear Stearns or Lehman Bros would still be here if not for the short-sellers is questionable, IMHO. They were in trouble even without the short selling, though the SS might have sped things up a bit. As mentioned before, I am entirely against naked short selling, but think the focus on short sellers last fall was misguided and might have been an attempt to distract people from the true culprits — those who were behind the deregulation of the derivatives markets and who turned a blind eye to (even encouraged and enabled) all the fraud and corruption that was going on **on the way up.**

The video was created by Deep Capture, which is run by Patrick Byrnes of Overstock.com fame.

Here is a snippet from an article by Gary Weiss about him (though I tend to discredit people who try to discredit others for being “crazy, conspiracy theorists” as many conspiracy theorists are often right). Just saying the opinion might be biased, even though he may well be correct:

One of the techniques of the loony-tunes CEO of Overstock.com, Patrick Byrne, in advancing his shrill and nonsensical Wall Street conspiracy theories is to dispatch across the Internet an army of paid hirelings led by former Florida Republican wingnut Judd Bagley and disgraced ex-CJR editor Mark Mitchell. Well, Byrne seems to have picked the wrong target.

http://garyweiss.blogspot.com/2009/02/patrick-byrnes-smear-campaign-backfires.html

[CA renter]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Jp: http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJournal/fluke-credit-crisis-was-a-heist.aspx

I don’t know if you’ve read the Jim Jubak article in MSN Money yet, but, like the Rolling Stone article, this is well researched and it will make you just as heartsick and angry.

I think the real investigations are about to begin, and I think that the truly hard questions haven’t been asked yet. I think Obama is in a tough spot, any way you cut it. He can attempt to soothe us with comforting words and bring this thing down gently, or he can do what he needs to do, which is bring this entire house of cards down. I’m pretty sure which direction he’ll go.[/quote]

This was an excellent article, Allan, and spot-on, IMHO. Thank you for sharing it.

————-

Also, finally got through the video on short sellers. Yes, definitely agree there was manipulation and insider trading. But to think that Bear Stearns or Lehman Bros would still be here if not for the short-sellers is questionable, IMHO. They were in trouble even without the short selling, though the SS might have sped things up a bit. As mentioned before, I am entirely against naked short selling, but think the focus on short sellers last fall was misguided and might have been an attempt to distract people from the true culprits — those who were behind the deregulation of the derivatives markets and who turned a blind eye to (even encouraged and enabled) all the fraud and corruption that was going on **on the way up.**

The video was created by Deep Capture, which is run by Patrick Byrnes of Overstock.com fame.

Here is a snippet from an article by Gary Weiss about him (though I tend to discredit people who try to discredit others for being “crazy, conspiracy theorists” as many conspiracy theorists are often right). Just saying the opinion might be biased, even though he may well be correct:

One of the techniques of the loony-tunes CEO of Overstock.com, Patrick Byrne, in advancing his shrill and nonsensical Wall Street conspiracy theories is to dispatch across the Internet an army of paid hirelings led by former Florida Republican wingnut Judd Bagley and disgraced ex-CJR editor Mark Mitchell. Well, Byrne seems to have picked the wrong target.

http://garyweiss.blogspot.com/2009/02/patrick-byrnes-smear-campaign-backfires.html

[CA renter]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Jp: http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJournal/fluke-credit-crisis-was-a-heist.aspx

I don’t know if you’ve read the Jim Jubak article in MSN Money yet, but, like the Rolling Stone article, this is well researched and it will make you just as heartsick and angry.

I think the real investigations are about to begin, and I think that the truly hard questions haven’t been asked yet. I think Obama is in a tough spot, any way you cut it. He can attempt to soothe us with comforting words and bring this thing down gently, or he can do what he needs to do, which is bring this entire house of cards down. I’m pretty sure which direction he’ll go.[/quote]

This was an excellent article, Allan, and spot-on, IMHO. Thank you for sharing it.

————-

Also, finally got through the video on short sellers. Yes, definitely agree there was manipulation and insider trading. But to think that Bear Stearns or Lehman Bros would still be here if not for the short-sellers is questionable, IMHO. They were in trouble even without the short selling, though the SS might have sped things up a bit. As mentioned before, I am entirely against naked short selling, but think the focus on short sellers last fall was misguided and might have been an attempt to distract people from the true culprits — those who were behind the deregulation of the derivatives markets and who turned a blind eye to (even encouraged and enabled) all the fraud and corruption that was going on **on the way up.**

The video was created by Deep Capture, which is run by Patrick Byrnes of Overstock.com fame.

Here is a snippet from an article by Gary Weiss about him (though I tend to discredit people who try to discredit others for being “crazy, conspiracy theorists” as many conspiracy theorists are often right). Just saying the opinion might be biased, even though he may well be correct:

One of the techniques of the loony-tunes CEO of Overstock.com, Patrick Byrne, in advancing his shrill and nonsensical Wall Street conspiracy theories is to dispatch across the Internet an army of paid hirelings led by former Florida Republican wingnut Judd Bagley and disgraced ex-CJR editor Mark Mitchell. Well, Byrne seems to have picked the wrong target.

http://garyweiss.blogspot.com/2009/02/patrick-byrnes-smear-campaign-backfires.html

[CA renter]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Jp: http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJournal/fluke-credit-crisis-was-a-heist.aspx

I don’t know if you’ve read the Jim Jubak article in MSN Money yet, but, like the Rolling Stone article, this is well researched and it will make you just as heartsick and angry.

I think the real investigations are about to begin, and I think that the truly hard questions haven’t been asked yet. I think Obama is in a tough spot, any way you cut it. He can attempt to soothe us with comforting words and bring this thing down gently, or he can do what he needs to do, which is bring this entire house of cards down. I’m pretty sure which direction he’ll go.[/quote]

This was an excellent article, Allan, and spot-on, IMHO. Thank you for sharing it.

————-

Also, finally got through the video on short sellers. Yes, definitely agree there was manipulation and insider trading. But to think that Bear Stearns or Lehman Bros would still be here if not for the short-sellers is questionable, IMHO. They were in trouble even without the short selling, though the SS might have sped things up a bit. As mentioned before, I am entirely against naked short selling, but think the focus on short sellers last fall was misguided and might have been an attempt to distract people from the true culprits — those who were behind the deregulation of the derivatives markets and who turned a blind eye to (even encouraged and enabled) all the fraud and corruption that was going on **on the way up.**

The video was created by Deep Capture, which is run by Patrick Byrnes of Overstock.com fame.

Here is a snippet from an article by Gary Weiss about him (though I tend to discredit people who try to discredit others for being “crazy, conspiracy theorists” as many conspiracy theorists are often right). Just saying the opinion might be biased, even though he may well be correct:

One of the techniques of the loony-tunes CEO of Overstock.com, Patrick Byrne, in advancing his shrill and nonsensical Wall Street conspiracy theories is to dispatch across the Internet an army of paid hirelings led by former Florida Republican wingnut Judd Bagley and disgraced ex-CJR editor Mark Mitchell. Well, Byrne seems to have picked the wrong target.

http://garyweiss.blogspot.com/2009/02/patrick-byrnes-smear-campaign-backfires.html

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