Terrorism

[Arraya]

Sure, lots of bigotry and vile words in religious texts. How much does one group take these translations as literal is the question. I’m just an observer and don’t take sides. I’m just pointing out that it is not the only group pushing fundamentalist agenda’s. I don’t see a big difference between the desert death cults, IMO. Culturally, sure. Steeped in apocalyptic nonsense, I see everywhere.

Political correctness has shielded israel for many years. In fact, I used to have an aversion looking at it. Though, now I really don’t care. I just call it as I see it.

Being is that I am tangentially part of the Jewish community I get the “self-hating jew” schtick, often.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=487412&contrassID=2&subContrassID=5&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them

By Amiram Barkat

A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem’s Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passerby spat in his face.

[Zeitgeist]

I am sure if Arraya is correct, they will destroy each other and we will be drawn into the nuclear conflict. It will be WWIII. God help us.

[Zeitgeist]

I am sure if Arraya is correct, they will destroy each other and we will be drawn into the nuclear conflict. It will be WWIII. God help us.

[Zeitgeist]

I am sure if Arraya is correct, they will destroy each other and we will be drawn into the nuclear conflict. It will be WWIII. God help us.

[Zeitgeist]

I am sure if Arraya is correct, they will destroy each other and we will be drawn into the nuclear conflict. It will be WWIII. God help us.

[Zeitgeist]

I am sure if Arraya is correct, they will destroy each other and we will be drawn into the nuclear conflict. It will be WWIII. God help us.

[surveyor]

[quote=Arraya]
LOL… Ok, dude, your really reaching now.

Quotes from the Talmud
B17470 / Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:41:21 / Human Rights
Sanhedrin 59a: “Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal.”
Abodah Zara 26b: “Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed.”
Sanhedrin 59a: “A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death.”
Libbre David 37: “To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.”
Libbre David 37: “If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death.”
Yebhamoth 11b: “Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age.”
Schabouth Hag. 6d: “Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.”
Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Do not save Goyim in danger of death.”
Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Show no mercy to the Goyim.”[/quote]

I think you’re the one who’s reaching… None of these really compare to the Koran’s verses of violence.

Compare with these verses:

Qur’an (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”

Qur’an (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”

Qur’an (4:76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”

If you read closely, there are significant differences to the things you wrote. Are your Talmud quotes being used as justification for violence? Do the religious authorities acknowledge and agree with the calls to violence? And what have the religious authorities ruled to these verses? Were they abrogated? Are they considered to be the law of the land in Israel?

That is the difference.

1. The Koran teaches violence.
2. Religious scholars have agreed with these violent verses and continue to teach them today.
3. Violence being committed today.

While there are violent verses in the Talmud and the Bible, they are not universal calls to violence and there are no established religious scholars calling for such violence. Not so with the Koran.

[surveyor]

[quote=Arraya]
LOL… Ok, dude, your really reaching now.

Quotes from the Talmud
B17470 / Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:41:21 / Human Rights
Sanhedrin 59a: “Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal.”
Abodah Zara 26b: “Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed.”
Sanhedrin 59a: “A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death.”
Libbre David 37: “To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.”
Libbre David 37: “If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death.”
Yebhamoth 11b: “Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age.”
Schabouth Hag. 6d: “Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.”
Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Do not save Goyim in danger of death.”
Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Show no mercy to the Goyim.”[/quote]

I think you’re the one who’s reaching… None of these really compare to the Koran’s verses of violence.

Compare with these verses:

Qur’an (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”

Qur’an (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”

Qur’an (4:76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”

If you read closely, there are significant differences to the things you wrote. Are your Talmud quotes being used as justification for violence? Do the religious authorities acknowledge and agree with the calls to violence? And what have the religious authorities ruled to these verses? Were they abrogated? Are they considered to be the law of the land in Israel?

That is the difference.

1. The Koran teaches violence.
2. Religious scholars have agreed with these violent verses and continue to teach them today.
3. Violence being committed today.

While there are violent verses in the Talmud and the Bible, they are not universal calls to violence and there are no established religious scholars calling for such violence. Not so with the Koran.

[surveyor]

[quote=Arraya]
LOL… Ok, dude, your really reaching now.

Quotes from the Talmud
B17470 / Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:41:21 / Human Rights
Sanhedrin 59a: “Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal.”
Abodah Zara 26b: “Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed.”
Sanhedrin 59a: “A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death.”
Libbre David 37: “To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.”
Libbre David 37: “If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death.”
Yebhamoth 11b: “Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age.”
Schabouth Hag. 6d: “Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.”
Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Do not save Goyim in danger of death.”
Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Show no mercy to the Goyim.”[/quote]

I think you’re the one who’s reaching… None of these really compare to the Koran’s verses of violence.

Compare with these verses:

Qur’an (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”

Qur’an (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”

Qur’an (4:76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”

If you read closely, there are significant differences to the things you wrote. Are your Talmud quotes being used as justification for violence? Do the religious authorities acknowledge and agree with the calls to violence? And what have the religious authorities ruled to these verses? Were they abrogated? Are they considered to be the law of the land in Israel?

That is the difference.

1. The Koran teaches violence.
2. Religious scholars have agreed with these violent verses and continue to teach them today.
3. Violence being committed today.

While there are violent verses in the Talmud and the Bible, they are not universal calls to violence and there are no established religious scholars calling for such violence. Not so with the Koran.

[surveyor]

[quote=Arraya]
LOL… Ok, dude, your really reaching now.

Quotes from the Talmud
B17470 / Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:41:21 / Human Rights
Sanhedrin 59a: “Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal.”
Abodah Zara 26b: “Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed.”
Sanhedrin 59a: “A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death.”
Libbre David 37: “To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.”
Libbre David 37: “If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death.”
Yebhamoth 11b: “Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age.”
Schabouth Hag. 6d: “Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.”
Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Do not save Goyim in danger of death.”
Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Show no mercy to the Goyim.”[/quote]

I think you’re the one who’s reaching… None of these really compare to the Koran’s verses of violence.

Compare with these verses:

Qur’an (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”

Qur’an (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”

Qur’an (4:76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”

If you read closely, there are significant differences to the things you wrote. Are your Talmud quotes being used as justification for violence? Do the religious authorities acknowledge and agree with the calls to violence? And what have the religious authorities ruled to these verses? Were they abrogated? Are they considered to be the law of the land in Israel?

That is the difference.

1. The Koran teaches violence.
2. Religious scholars have agreed with these violent verses and continue to teach them today.
3. Violence being committed today.

While there are violent verses in the Talmud and the Bible, they are not universal calls to violence and there are no established religious scholars calling for such violence. Not so with the Koran.

[surveyor]

[quote=Arraya]
LOL… Ok, dude, your really reaching now.

Quotes from the Talmud
B17470 / Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:41:21 / Human Rights
Sanhedrin 59a: “Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal.”
Abodah Zara 26b: “Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed.”
Sanhedrin 59a: “A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death.”
Libbre David 37: “To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.”
Libbre David 37: “If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death.”
Yebhamoth 11b: “Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age.”
Schabouth Hag. 6d: “Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.”
Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Do not save Goyim in danger of death.”
Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Show no mercy to the Goyim.”[/quote]

I think you’re the one who’s reaching… None of these really compare to the Koran’s verses of violence.

Compare with these verses:

Qur’an (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”

Qur’an (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”

Qur’an (4:76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”

If you read closely, there are significant differences to the things you wrote. Are your Talmud quotes being used as justification for violence? Do the religious authorities acknowledge and agree with the calls to violence? And what have the religious authorities ruled to these verses? Were they abrogated? Are they considered to be the law of the land in Israel?

That is the difference.

1. The Koran teaches violence.
2. Religious scholars have agreed with these violent verses and continue to teach them today.
3. Violence being committed today.

While there are violent verses in the Talmud and the Bible, they are not universal calls to violence and there are no established religious scholars calling for such violence. Not so with the Koran.

[Arraya]

Your right, surveyor

You win. Muslims are our biggest danger. Their fundies are more dangerous than our fundies. Lets declare a holy war, pick up our bombing in pakistan and put all arabs in camps. That should help.

Maybe they just have more faith and we should turn to our holy books for answers on how to fix this problem.
‘
Good grief

[Arraya]

Your right, surveyor

You win. Muslims are our biggest danger. Their fundies are more dangerous than our fundies. Lets declare a holy war, pick up our bombing in pakistan and put all arabs in camps. That should help.

Maybe they just have more faith and we should turn to our holy books for answers on how to fix this problem.
‘
Good grief

[Arraya]

Your right, surveyor

You win. Muslims are our biggest danger. Their fundies are more dangerous than our fundies. Lets declare a holy war, pick up our bombing in pakistan and put all arabs in camps. That should help.

Maybe they just have more faith and we should turn to our holy books for answers on how to fix this problem.
‘
Good grief

[Arraya]

Your right, surveyor

You win. Muslims are our biggest danger. Their fundies are more dangerous than our fundies. Lets declare a holy war, pick up our bombing in pakistan and put all arabs in camps. That should help.

Maybe they just have more faith and we should turn to our holy books for answers on how to fix this problem.
‘
Good grief

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