Temecula & Murrieta

[hipmatt]

Wow, I’m not as popular as TG, but I have also lived in Temecula since 1990. I went to HS here, worked for many local businesses large and small, and sold RE for a while.

TG did say a few things that I disagree with though…

“Temecula is actually almost at build out, every piece of dirt is either built, planned and definately zoned.”

Not true, and definitely not true if talking about the whole valley like he does in the rest of his rant. There are actually many open lots, some of which have been graded specifically FOR housing that haven’t been developed, and because of the RE crash, won’t be developed for some time. There are areas off of butterfield stage, ynez, and just south of murrieta hot springs (some might be in Temecula) that are all designated for residential that won’t be built on.

“There are only a few apartment buildings in the city, confined to a few locations, multi housing is the key to urban decay.”

Not true, there are PLENTY of apartments scattered throughout the city AND its neighbors. If anyone likes I can point them out on a google maps image and post a link to it. There are apartments and condos all over the city. BTW, “urban decay”.. Some of the safest cities are built around multi housing. Think NYC, and many cities in UK, Europe, nearly everyone lives in an apartment, yet a very safe city.

“Temecula was designed to have no downtown, no place to live and be a pedestrian, something in existence in almost every ghetto.”

Just wondering if this is speculation, or you were there helping to design the city in an effort to make life as tough as possible for lower class individuals without cars?? Poor people, need not apply, Temecula is a utopia free from struggle and the unappealing aesthetics that come with it. Us middle class citizens whom are above those in poverty, need not be inconvenienced or made to feel guilt by your presence. Was that the city’s motto back in the early days?

“in temecula, you need a car or you will die.”

Hmm.. plenty of apartments and housing within walking distance to Costco, Abbot (largest employer), Winco (cheap food), Target, numerous Albertsons, the mall, movies, car dealers, etc… The list goes on and on. You definitely don’t NEED a car unless you live at one end or the other. I know and see plenty of people who walk around town, or ride bikes to travel the relatively flat and easy to navigate areas between Winchester and Ranch CA road.

“The city also purposely has a weak transit system, until recently it was completely cut off from it’s neighbors and still you cant get to elsinore, fallbrook, escondido or hemet without taking greyhound,”

The city does have a weak transit system, traffic sucks, by nature this is improving as gas prices rise, and transplants fall out of the area, but we do have more than just greyhound. Maybe you have seen the RTA signs, and benches located throughout the city and COUNTY. This has improved drastically in the last 4 years and is constantly expanding.
More info here…
http://www.riversidetransit.com/bus_info/schedules.htm
[img_assist|nid=7922|title=transit|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=58|height=100]

“they do everything to avoid poor people under 55 so to meet the minimum they recruit the over 55.”

I would just like to have a reliable source on this one..

“Escondido is more than half Spanish speaking, the environment fit their needs and they were attracted to the area, Temecula has a B/P checkpoint in it and is designed to not meet their needs so even though a house in Temecula is cheaper than Escondido, it never became an Escondido.”

Uhh.. there are plenty of spanish speaking people that live in Temecula. The BP checkpoint isn’t even located IN Temecula, and it doesn’t do a good job of keeping out illegals anyways. There are plenty, and you or I couldn’t tell the difference between many legals and illegals anyways, if it is a bother to you or not. Illegals work in Temecula, the area IS attractive to them. And as a not related to an above post, there is low income housing available in Old Town, and, not to stereo type, but there are many Mexican families living there.

“if anything the demographics will improve.”

This is a bold statement. What exactly does this meant. The city will have wealthier residents in the future?? Crime will go down?? Quality of life will increase?? Hmm, since I moved here the quality of life has fallen slowly and steadily. The median income may have risen, but that doesn’t say anything worthwhile about a community.

In 1990 Temecula was a quiet little ranch town off the beaten path. Most people bagged on the city. People said it was a boring hick town in the middle of no where. The true residents at the time took that as a compliment. People came here to avoid big cities like LA and San Diego, experience fresh air, play outdoors, raise their families safely and in a wholesome environment. Temecula was a modest city that had nothing to prove. We enjoyed the lack of traffic, materialism, and big egos. Now the city is rat race, with plastic soccer moms who believe they could play a part on desperate house wives. Wanna be big shots hauling ass around in BMW’s dressed up pretending to be wealthy, trying to find their own trophy wife, so they can fit in with their new neighbors. Temecula 2 years ago was all about how much you could consume. People are getting more and more impatient with others on the road. It is still a nice place, I call it home and plan to for a while, but I’d take the old version in a second. I don’t see how a recession, high gas prices, massive amounts of over priced, over sized homes to sell, and slowing employment can make an EXURB city improve in its demographics. I don’t see how people won’t resort to crime to make it. (and they already have) The cops I know can confirm the increase in crime, theft, and yes, even murder. I hope Temecula can be a great city again. I hope we can reduce the phonyness, the attention whore in the Escalade with the 22s, the women who are concerned only with their beauty and possesions, and the kids who don’t have parents that pay attention to them. I won’t run away, thinking that moving will be the answer, because no place is perfect, but I do think things will get worse before they get better. The residents of Temecula have been partying like rock stars for about 10 years… there is gonna be one severe hangover.

[temeculaguy]

Matt, there is a reason you aren’t as popular as I, no need for me to point it out but since you took me on point by point I will respond. For being nearly a two decade Temeculan it suprises me how unhappy you are here, how much signs of wealth or cosmetically enhanced women bother you, I say bring it on. We have a few years, one of us will be right, but for now we can agree to disagree.

Abbot is not the largest employer, Pechanga is, in fact it is the largest in the County, zero apartments within walking distance of it.

Lets see..spanish speakers, check the demographics on the state school website, other than the two elem schools near apartments on Solano and in Old Town, it’s a negligible amount, look at Redhawk Elem, Jackson, Pauba, Tobin or any of the other schools in the 40k plus population South Temecula that has one apartment building which is high end anyway and still not walkable to a grocery store. Those schools have scores, english language learner and free lunch numbers comparable to Poway and San Digueto districts.

Did I design the city? No. But I have employed “live in” maids over the years and there was no way to get them to their family or to services so that is where that “data” is from. While city transit services have improved, a mile walk to a store is not like you will find in Escondido. Have you been on Ash Street in Esco, name one area of Temecula where you will not find a blond kid in the school, visit Escondido, please.

Truth is, the town you loved isn’t as small as you remember anymore and for that you hate it. We have been here the same amount of time and it hasn’t bothered me to see growth and change, it’s different, not better or worse but different, the crime increased slightly but is still ranks amongst any suburb and has more officers per resident than any town in San Diego County with the exception of Carlsbad (which it is tied with).

You want a hangover of the excess that came from S.D and O.C., but it will be saved by it’s charm as not being as bad as other areas. We travel in different circles, but I assure you there are plenty of people like myself, people that earn six figure salaries and don’t commute or pay for gas, for that reason and that reason alone it will survive, with or without you, but it will not turn into the crime ridden area you yearn for. Seriously, you can get a golf course view for 300k now, how bad do you think it will get? I’ve been drinking, as is common on weekends so I will end my rant, but tomorrow, work permitting I’ll reread these points and counter each and every one. While I’m away, name the cheap apartments near S. 79 that you can walk to a grocery store. They don’t exist. I hope you have a chunk of change stored away matt, this correction isn’t going to last forever, you have a year, maybe two and then you will be priced out forever, that’s not me being bullish, that’s the cold reality. After that it is “welcome to hemet.”

You want proof of the importation of the elderly to satisfy low income housing, you are invited to go to church and have breakfast with my grandmother and I, who lives in city owned elderly housing that I learned of from the city who was desperate to keep it’s federal road tax money and needed the elderly who lived on social security. they also dropped a few million on the senior center, one of the reasons she would never accept my offer to live rent free at my place beacuse there is so much to do in her neck of the woods.

I haven’t bought back in, i think there is another 10% or more to go, but if you need 20 cents on the dollar to buy a house, good luck with that.

Your quality of life may have decreased, mine has gone up, I wanted a mall, restaraunts, stuff to do, cosmetically enhanced women to leer at and if the 22’s bother you, get 23’s.

These latest numbers will seperate the reverse flippers from the posers, waiting hawk was a prime example of someone who waited for their time. South Temecula has reached $100 a square, for me, my dream house is two years pay, that is just silly by any mathematical formula, if and when San Diegans can buy a nice house with good schools for two years pay, this site will be a piece of history and I firmly believe that day will come.

[temeculaguy]

Matt, there is a reason you aren’t as popular as I, no need for me to point it out but since you took me on point by point I will respond. For being nearly a two decade Temeculan it suprises me how unhappy you are here, how much signs of wealth or cosmetically enhanced women bother you, I say bring it on. We have a few years, one of us will be right, but for now we can agree to disagree.

Abbot is not the largest employer, Pechanga is, in fact it is the largest in the County, zero apartments within walking distance of it.

Lets see..spanish speakers, check the demographics on the state school website, other than the two elem schools near apartments on Solano and in Old Town, it’s a negligible amount, look at Redhawk Elem, Jackson, Pauba, Tobin or any of the other schools in the 40k plus population South Temecula that has one apartment building which is high end anyway and still not walkable to a grocery store. Those schools have scores, english language learner and free lunch numbers comparable to Poway and San Digueto districts.

Did I design the city? No. But I have employed “live in” maids over the years and there was no way to get them to their family or to services so that is where that “data” is from. While city transit services have improved, a mile walk to a store is not like you will find in Escondido. Have you been on Ash Street in Esco, name one area of Temecula where you will not find a blond kid in the school, visit Escondido, please.

Truth is, the town you loved isn’t as small as you remember anymore and for that you hate it. We have been here the same amount of time and it hasn’t bothered me to see growth and change, it’s different, not better or worse but different, the crime increased slightly but is still ranks amongst any suburb and has more officers per resident than any town in San Diego County with the exception of Carlsbad (which it is tied with).

You want a hangover of the excess that came from S.D and O.C., but it will be saved by it’s charm as not being as bad as other areas. We travel in different circles, but I assure you there are plenty of people like myself, people that earn six figure salaries and don’t commute or pay for gas, for that reason and that reason alone it will survive, with or without you, but it will not turn into the crime ridden area you yearn for. Seriously, you can get a golf course view for 300k now, how bad do you think it will get? I’ve been drinking, as is common on weekends so I will end my rant, but tomorrow, work permitting I’ll reread these points and counter each and every one. While I’m away, name the cheap apartments near S. 79 that you can walk to a grocery store. They don’t exist. I hope you have a chunk of change stored away matt, this correction isn’t going to last forever, you have a year, maybe two and then you will be priced out forever, that’s not me being bullish, that’s the cold reality. After that it is “welcome to hemet.”

You want proof of the importation of the elderly to satisfy low income housing, you are invited to go to church and have breakfast with my grandmother and I, who lives in city owned elderly housing that I learned of from the city who was desperate to keep it’s federal road tax money and needed the elderly who lived on social security. they also dropped a few million on the senior center, one of the reasons she would never accept my offer to live rent free at my place beacuse there is so much to do in her neck of the woods.

I haven’t bought back in, i think there is another 10% or more to go, but if you need 20 cents on the dollar to buy a house, good luck with that.

Your quality of life may have decreased, mine has gone up, I wanted a mall, restaraunts, stuff to do, cosmetically enhanced women to leer at and if the 22’s bother you, get 23’s.

These latest numbers will seperate the reverse flippers from the posers, waiting hawk was a prime example of someone who waited for their time. South Temecula has reached $100 a square, for me, my dream house is two years pay, that is just silly by any mathematical formula, if and when San Diegans can buy a nice house with good schools for two years pay, this site will be a piece of history and I firmly believe that day will come.

[temeculaguy]

Matt, there is a reason you aren’t as popular as I, no need for me to point it out but since you took me on point by point I will respond. For being nearly a two decade Temeculan it suprises me how unhappy you are here, how much signs of wealth or cosmetically enhanced women bother you, I say bring it on. We have a few years, one of us will be right, but for now we can agree to disagree.

Abbot is not the largest employer, Pechanga is, in fact it is the largest in the County, zero apartments within walking distance of it.

Lets see..spanish speakers, check the demographics on the state school website, other than the two elem schools near apartments on Solano and in Old Town, it’s a negligible amount, look at Redhawk Elem, Jackson, Pauba, Tobin or any of the other schools in the 40k plus population South Temecula that has one apartment building which is high end anyway and still not walkable to a grocery store. Those schools have scores, english language learner and free lunch numbers comparable to Poway and San Digueto districts.

Did I design the city? No. But I have employed “live in” maids over the years and there was no way to get them to their family or to services so that is where that “data” is from. While city transit services have improved, a mile walk to a store is not like you will find in Escondido. Have you been on Ash Street in Esco, name one area of Temecula where you will not find a blond kid in the school, visit Escondido, please.

Truth is, the town you loved isn’t as small as you remember anymore and for that you hate it. We have been here the same amount of time and it hasn’t bothered me to see growth and change, it’s different, not better or worse but different, the crime increased slightly but is still ranks amongst any suburb and has more officers per resident than any town in San Diego County with the exception of Carlsbad (which it is tied with).

You want a hangover of the excess that came from S.D and O.C., but it will be saved by it’s charm as not being as bad as other areas. We travel in different circles, but I assure you there are plenty of people like myself, people that earn six figure salaries and don’t commute or pay for gas, for that reason and that reason alone it will survive, with or without you, but it will not turn into the crime ridden area you yearn for. Seriously, you can get a golf course view for 300k now, how bad do you think it will get? I’ve been drinking, as is common on weekends so I will end my rant, but tomorrow, work permitting I’ll reread these points and counter each and every one. While I’m away, name the cheap apartments near S. 79 that you can walk to a grocery store. They don’t exist. I hope you have a chunk of change stored away matt, this correction isn’t going to last forever, you have a year, maybe two and then you will be priced out forever, that’s not me being bullish, that’s the cold reality. After that it is “welcome to hemet.”

You want proof of the importation of the elderly to satisfy low income housing, you are invited to go to church and have breakfast with my grandmother and I, who lives in city owned elderly housing that I learned of from the city who was desperate to keep it’s federal road tax money and needed the elderly who lived on social security. they also dropped a few million on the senior center, one of the reasons she would never accept my offer to live rent free at my place beacuse there is so much to do in her neck of the woods.

I haven’t bought back in, i think there is another 10% or more to go, but if you need 20 cents on the dollar to buy a house, good luck with that.

Your quality of life may have decreased, mine has gone up, I wanted a mall, restaraunts, stuff to do, cosmetically enhanced women to leer at and if the 22’s bother you, get 23’s.

These latest numbers will seperate the reverse flippers from the posers, waiting hawk was a prime example of someone who waited for their time. South Temecula has reached $100 a square, for me, my dream house is two years pay, that is just silly by any mathematical formula, if and when San Diegans can buy a nice house with good schools for two years pay, this site will be a piece of history and I firmly believe that day will come.

[temeculaguy]

Matt, there is a reason you aren’t as popular as I, no need for me to point it out but since you took me on point by point I will respond. For being nearly a two decade Temeculan it suprises me how unhappy you are here, how much signs of wealth or cosmetically enhanced women bother you, I say bring it on. We have a few years, one of us will be right, but for now we can agree to disagree.

Abbot is not the largest employer, Pechanga is, in fact it is the largest in the County, zero apartments within walking distance of it.

Lets see..spanish speakers, check the demographics on the state school website, other than the two elem schools near apartments on Solano and in Old Town, it’s a negligible amount, look at Redhawk Elem, Jackson, Pauba, Tobin or any of the other schools in the 40k plus population South Temecula that has one apartment building which is high end anyway and still not walkable to a grocery store. Those schools have scores, english language learner and free lunch numbers comparable to Poway and San Digueto districts.

Did I design the city? No. But I have employed “live in” maids over the years and there was no way to get them to their family or to services so that is where that “data” is from. While city transit services have improved, a mile walk to a store is not like you will find in Escondido. Have you been on Ash Street in Esco, name one area of Temecula where you will not find a blond kid in the school, visit Escondido, please.

Truth is, the town you loved isn’t as small as you remember anymore and for that you hate it. We have been here the same amount of time and it hasn’t bothered me to see growth and change, it’s different, not better or worse but different, the crime increased slightly but is still ranks amongst any suburb and has more officers per resident than any town in San Diego County with the exception of Carlsbad (which it is tied with).

You want a hangover of the excess that came from S.D and O.C., but it will be saved by it’s charm as not being as bad as other areas. We travel in different circles, but I assure you there are plenty of people like myself, people that earn six figure salaries and don’t commute or pay for gas, for that reason and that reason alone it will survive, with or without you, but it will not turn into the crime ridden area you yearn for. Seriously, you can get a golf course view for 300k now, how bad do you think it will get? I’ve been drinking, as is common on weekends so I will end my rant, but tomorrow, work permitting I’ll reread these points and counter each and every one. While I’m away, name the cheap apartments near S. 79 that you can walk to a grocery store. They don’t exist. I hope you have a chunk of change stored away matt, this correction isn’t going to last forever, you have a year, maybe two and then you will be priced out forever, that’s not me being bullish, that’s the cold reality. After that it is “welcome to hemet.”

You want proof of the importation of the elderly to satisfy low income housing, you are invited to go to church and have breakfast with my grandmother and I, who lives in city owned elderly housing that I learned of from the city who was desperate to keep it’s federal road tax money and needed the elderly who lived on social security. they also dropped a few million on the senior center, one of the reasons she would never accept my offer to live rent free at my place beacuse there is so much to do in her neck of the woods.

I haven’t bought back in, i think there is another 10% or more to go, but if you need 20 cents on the dollar to buy a house, good luck with that.

Your quality of life may have decreased, mine has gone up, I wanted a mall, restaraunts, stuff to do, cosmetically enhanced women to leer at and if the 22’s bother you, get 23’s.

These latest numbers will seperate the reverse flippers from the posers, waiting hawk was a prime example of someone who waited for their time. South Temecula has reached $100 a square, for me, my dream house is two years pay, that is just silly by any mathematical formula, if and when San Diegans can buy a nice house with good schools for two years pay, this site will be a piece of history and I firmly believe that day will come.

[temeculaguy]

Matt, there is a reason you aren’t as popular as I, no need for me to point it out but since you took me on point by point I will respond. For being nearly a two decade Temeculan it suprises me how unhappy you are here, how much signs of wealth or cosmetically enhanced women bother you, I say bring it on. We have a few years, one of us will be right, but for now we can agree to disagree.

Abbot is not the largest employer, Pechanga is, in fact it is the largest in the County, zero apartments within walking distance of it.

Lets see..spanish speakers, check the demographics on the state school website, other than the two elem schools near apartments on Solano and in Old Town, it’s a negligible amount, look at Redhawk Elem, Jackson, Pauba, Tobin or any of the other schools in the 40k plus population South Temecula that has one apartment building which is high end anyway and still not walkable to a grocery store. Those schools have scores, english language learner and free lunch numbers comparable to Poway and San Digueto districts.

Did I design the city? No. But I have employed “live in” maids over the years and there was no way to get them to their family or to services so that is where that “data” is from. While city transit services have improved, a mile walk to a store is not like you will find in Escondido. Have you been on Ash Street in Esco, name one area of Temecula where you will not find a blond kid in the school, visit Escondido, please.

Truth is, the town you loved isn’t as small as you remember anymore and for that you hate it. We have been here the same amount of time and it hasn’t bothered me to see growth and change, it’s different, not better or worse but different, the crime increased slightly but is still ranks amongst any suburb and has more officers per resident than any town in San Diego County with the exception of Carlsbad (which it is tied with).

You want a hangover of the excess that came from S.D and O.C., but it will be saved by it’s charm as not being as bad as other areas. We travel in different circles, but I assure you there are plenty of people like myself, people that earn six figure salaries and don’t commute or pay for gas, for that reason and that reason alone it will survive, with or without you, but it will not turn into the crime ridden area you yearn for. Seriously, you can get a golf course view for 300k now, how bad do you think it will get? I’ve been drinking, as is common on weekends so I will end my rant, but tomorrow, work permitting I’ll reread these points and counter each and every one. While I’m away, name the cheap apartments near S. 79 that you can walk to a grocery store. They don’t exist. I hope you have a chunk of change stored away matt, this correction isn’t going to last forever, you have a year, maybe two and then you will be priced out forever, that’s not me being bullish, that’s the cold reality. After that it is “welcome to hemet.”

You want proof of the importation of the elderly to satisfy low income housing, you are invited to go to church and have breakfast with my grandmother and I, who lives in city owned elderly housing that I learned of from the city who was desperate to keep it’s federal road tax money and needed the elderly who lived on social security. they also dropped a few million on the senior center, one of the reasons she would never accept my offer to live rent free at my place beacuse there is so much to do in her neck of the woods.

I haven’t bought back in, i think there is another 10% or more to go, but if you need 20 cents on the dollar to buy a house, good luck with that.

Your quality of life may have decreased, mine has gone up, I wanted a mall, restaraunts, stuff to do, cosmetically enhanced women to leer at and if the 22’s bother you, get 23’s.

These latest numbers will seperate the reverse flippers from the posers, waiting hawk was a prime example of someone who waited for their time. South Temecula has reached $100 a square, for me, my dream house is two years pay, that is just silly by any mathematical formula, if and when San Diegans can buy a nice house with good schools for two years pay, this site will be a piece of history and I firmly believe that day will come.

[hipmatt]

You go to church with your grandmother, yet you drink like a sailor, and lust after plastic women that resemble porn stars, and you worship worldly material items.. what an ironic contradiction.

If a mall and pechanga casino make you happy, that is unfortunate. There are many more productive ways to spend free time. I can see how my post came across as negative, but no where in it do I “yearn” for crime, or expect .20 on the dollar. That is just plain insulting.

BTW apartments on La Paz are quite close to pechanag, definitely within walking distance, unless you have been drinking to much and eating too much fried chinese food, then I suggest getting off your ass and working out. Most of the apartments are closer to important amenities, not a lousy casino, and there are plenty and they are walkable to important places.

TG, I still like Temecula, I play devils advocate a lot, but I honestly feel there is more pain to come. I still don’t hear much evidence to support otherwise that isn’t speculative and emotional. Remember we have over 4 years of inventory, and rates are only going to rise… How are all of these people going to buy up all of these homes… working at Pechana…, Big 5…maybe they could sell cars at Paradise Chevy..

BTW, you are wrong again about Abbot…
it is the largest employer…
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1633769/
“Abbott is the largest employer within the Temecula city limits, and many of the tasks are skilled positions that pay more than the average factory worker.”

I am happy here, I am openly disappointed as to the direction things have gone. I’m not some cocky bad ass who brags about my six figure income, who posts as if I am the know it all encyclopedia of Temecula, and how quick I can pay off my house. I agree to disagree, but if you continue spewing false info, I will call you out.

[hipmatt]

You go to church with your grandmother, yet you drink like a sailor, and lust after plastic women that resemble porn stars, and you worship worldly material items.. what an ironic contradiction.

If a mall and pechanga casino make you happy, that is unfortunate. There are many more productive ways to spend free time. I can see how my post came across as negative, but no where in it do I “yearn” for crime, or expect .20 on the dollar. That is just plain insulting.

BTW apartments on La Paz are quite close to pechanag, definitely within walking distance, unless you have been drinking to much and eating too much fried chinese food, then I suggest getting off your ass and working out. Most of the apartments are closer to important amenities, not a lousy casino, and there are plenty and they are walkable to important places.

TG, I still like Temecula, I play devils advocate a lot, but I honestly feel there is more pain to come. I still don’t hear much evidence to support otherwise that isn’t speculative and emotional. Remember we have over 4 years of inventory, and rates are only going to rise… How are all of these people going to buy up all of these homes… working at Pechana…, Big 5…maybe they could sell cars at Paradise Chevy..

BTW, you are wrong again about Abbot…
it is the largest employer…
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1633769/
“Abbott is the largest employer within the Temecula city limits, and many of the tasks are skilled positions that pay more than the average factory worker.”

I am happy here, I am openly disappointed as to the direction things have gone. I’m not some cocky bad ass who brags about my six figure income, who posts as if I am the know it all encyclopedia of Temecula, and how quick I can pay off my house. I agree to disagree, but if you continue spewing false info, I will call you out.

[hipmatt]

You go to church with your grandmother, yet you drink like a sailor, and lust after plastic women that resemble porn stars, and you worship worldly material items.. what an ironic contradiction.

If a mall and pechanga casino make you happy, that is unfortunate. There are many more productive ways to spend free time. I can see how my post came across as negative, but no where in it do I “yearn” for crime, or expect .20 on the dollar. That is just plain insulting.

BTW apartments on La Paz are quite close to pechanag, definitely within walking distance, unless you have been drinking to much and eating too much fried chinese food, then I suggest getting off your ass and working out. Most of the apartments are closer to important amenities, not a lousy casino, and there are plenty and they are walkable to important places.

TG, I still like Temecula, I play devils advocate a lot, but I honestly feel there is more pain to come. I still don’t hear much evidence to support otherwise that isn’t speculative and emotional. Remember we have over 4 years of inventory, and rates are only going to rise… How are all of these people going to buy up all of these homes… working at Pechana…, Big 5…maybe they could sell cars at Paradise Chevy..

BTW, you are wrong again about Abbot…
it is the largest employer…
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1633769/
“Abbott is the largest employer within the Temecula city limits, and many of the tasks are skilled positions that pay more than the average factory worker.”

I am happy here, I am openly disappointed as to the direction things have gone. I’m not some cocky bad ass who brags about my six figure income, who posts as if I am the know it all encyclopedia of Temecula, and how quick I can pay off my house. I agree to disagree, but if you continue spewing false info, I will call you out.

[hipmatt]

You go to church with your grandmother, yet you drink like a sailor, and lust after plastic women that resemble porn stars, and you worship worldly material items.. what an ironic contradiction.

If a mall and pechanga casino make you happy, that is unfortunate. There are many more productive ways to spend free time. I can see how my post came across as negative, but no where in it do I “yearn” for crime, or expect .20 on the dollar. That is just plain insulting.

BTW apartments on La Paz are quite close to pechanag, definitely within walking distance, unless you have been drinking to much and eating too much fried chinese food, then I suggest getting off your ass and working out. Most of the apartments are closer to important amenities, not a lousy casino, and there are plenty and they are walkable to important places.

TG, I still like Temecula, I play devils advocate a lot, but I honestly feel there is more pain to come. I still don’t hear much evidence to support otherwise that isn’t speculative and emotional. Remember we have over 4 years of inventory, and rates are only going to rise… How are all of these people going to buy up all of these homes… working at Pechana…, Big 5…maybe they could sell cars at Paradise Chevy..

BTW, you are wrong again about Abbot…
it is the largest employer…
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1633769/
“Abbott is the largest employer within the Temecula city limits, and many of the tasks are skilled positions that pay more than the average factory worker.”

I am happy here, I am openly disappointed as to the direction things have gone. I’m not some cocky bad ass who brags about my six figure income, who posts as if I am the know it all encyclopedia of Temecula, and how quick I can pay off my house. I agree to disagree, but if you continue spewing false info, I will call you out.

[hipmatt]

You go to church with your grandmother, yet you drink like a sailor, and lust after plastic women that resemble porn stars, and you worship worldly material items.. what an ironic contradiction.

If a mall and pechanga casino make you happy, that is unfortunate. There are many more productive ways to spend free time. I can see how my post came across as negative, but no where in it do I “yearn” for crime, or expect .20 on the dollar. That is just plain insulting.

BTW apartments on La Paz are quite close to pechanag, definitely within walking distance, unless you have been drinking to much and eating too much fried chinese food, then I suggest getting off your ass and working out. Most of the apartments are closer to important amenities, not a lousy casino, and there are plenty and they are walkable to important places.

TG, I still like Temecula, I play devils advocate a lot, but I honestly feel there is more pain to come. I still don’t hear much evidence to support otherwise that isn’t speculative and emotional. Remember we have over 4 years of inventory, and rates are only going to rise… How are all of these people going to buy up all of these homes… working at Pechana…, Big 5…maybe they could sell cars at Paradise Chevy..

BTW, you are wrong again about Abbot…
it is the largest employer…
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1633769/
“Abbott is the largest employer within the Temecula city limits, and many of the tasks are skilled positions that pay more than the average factory worker.”

I am happy here, I am openly disappointed as to the direction things have gone. I’m not some cocky bad ass who brags about my six figure income, who posts as if I am the know it all encyclopedia of Temecula, and how quick I can pay off my house. I agree to disagree, but if you continue spewing false info, I will call you out.

[dharmagirl]

Hey HipMatt,

Maybe you were like me this weekend and spent too much time at the Fair. I love the SD County Fair, but DESPISE the stroller mafia (having a stroller is not a Cut-someone-off-in-line-for-free card, nor does it make it OK to roll over feet and be generally rude and thoughtless), the idiots walking around, not paying attention and yakking on their cells, etc.

Or, like me, maybe you were trying to drive 60 mph on I-15 with rude motorists honking at you and flipping the bird. I just start clapping or laugh at them when they do this. Does anyone else look at the idiots doing 90 mph on 15 and feel as amazed as I do?

Well, whatever it was, you did sound a wee bit crabby, Matt.

Based upon my observations, what I see in Temecula is a group of educated and informed people working hard to steer the city in the right direction. As I’ve said before, I’ve met countless people who are committed to the area, involved and proud of this area. Some of my friends down south poke fun of Temecula, but much of housing in popular areas of San Diego is just as densely packed as some areas of Temecula.

So, I prefer to say that in 20 years Temecula may be the next Pt Loma. Have you ever driven down Sports Arena Blvd or Rosencranz? Areas within the beach communities look just as bad – if not worse – than Esco, have just as much “diversity”, dated architecture, dense rentals, strip clubs, tacky retail, bars and crime.

Whenever I stay at my best friend’s house on Sunset Cliffs (Pt Loma), I cant help but admire the sweeping ocean views, architecture, etc. However, I RARELY get a good’s night sleep when I stay with her because of the rowdiness on the cliffs, partying South American neighbors nearby (they celebrate something every, single weekend), and rumbling street traffic. She’s also had two major thefts from her garage, which was left open for less than 5 minutes. Cops said it was probably meth addicts who comb the neighborhood for ‘easy targets.’

She’s also been assaulted by a homeless person while on an early morning walk.

I can happily say that none of this has happened to me or anyone else I know in Temecula. Pt Loma was once a quiet, laid back little beach community. It changed. Everything changes. It’s still lovely, but it’s not perfect. As much a I love the beach, I dont know if I could live there because of the noise.

The only thing you can really count on is change, dude. Temecula will continue to change and evolve just as San CV, SV and Cbad, etc. have changed. You either have to embrace change or move to Warner Springs. Or stop complaining and do something to make a difference in your community.

[dharmagirl]

Hey HipMatt,

Maybe you were like me this weekend and spent too much time at the Fair. I love the SD County Fair, but DESPISE the stroller mafia (having a stroller is not a Cut-someone-off-in-line-for-free card, nor does it make it OK to roll over feet and be generally rude and thoughtless), the idiots walking around, not paying attention and yakking on their cells, etc.

Or, like me, maybe you were trying to drive 60 mph on I-15 with rude motorists honking at you and flipping the bird. I just start clapping or laugh at them when they do this. Does anyone else look at the idiots doing 90 mph on 15 and feel as amazed as I do?

Well, whatever it was, you did sound a wee bit crabby, Matt.

Based upon my observations, what I see in Temecula is a group of educated and informed people working hard to steer the city in the right direction. As I’ve said before, I’ve met countless people who are committed to the area, involved and proud of this area. Some of my friends down south poke fun of Temecula, but much of housing in popular areas of San Diego is just as densely packed as some areas of Temecula.

So, I prefer to say that in 20 years Temecula may be the next Pt Loma. Have you ever driven down Sports Arena Blvd or Rosencranz? Areas within the beach communities look just as bad – if not worse – than Esco, have just as much “diversity”, dated architecture, dense rentals, strip clubs, tacky retail, bars and crime.

Whenever I stay at my best friend’s house on Sunset Cliffs (Pt Loma), I cant help but admire the sweeping ocean views, architecture, etc. However, I RARELY get a good’s night sleep when I stay with her because of the rowdiness on the cliffs, partying South American neighbors nearby (they celebrate something every, single weekend), and rumbling street traffic. She’s also had two major thefts from her garage, which was left open for less than 5 minutes. Cops said it was probably meth addicts who comb the neighborhood for ‘easy targets.’

She’s also been assaulted by a homeless person while on an early morning walk.

I can happily say that none of this has happened to me or anyone else I know in Temecula. Pt Loma was once a quiet, laid back little beach community. It changed. Everything changes. It’s still lovely, but it’s not perfect. As much a I love the beach, I dont know if I could live there because of the noise.

The only thing you can really count on is change, dude. Temecula will continue to change and evolve just as San CV, SV and Cbad, etc. have changed. You either have to embrace change or move to Warner Springs. Or stop complaining and do something to make a difference in your community.

[dharmagirl]

Hey HipMatt,

Maybe you were like me this weekend and spent too much time at the Fair. I love the SD County Fair, but DESPISE the stroller mafia (having a stroller is not a Cut-someone-off-in-line-for-free card, nor does it make it OK to roll over feet and be generally rude and thoughtless), the idiots walking around, not paying attention and yakking on their cells, etc.

Or, like me, maybe you were trying to drive 60 mph on I-15 with rude motorists honking at you and flipping the bird. I just start clapping or laugh at them when they do this. Does anyone else look at the idiots doing 90 mph on 15 and feel as amazed as I do?

Well, whatever it was, you did sound a wee bit crabby, Matt.

Based upon my observations, what I see in Temecula is a group of educated and informed people working hard to steer the city in the right direction. As I’ve said before, I’ve met countless people who are committed to the area, involved and proud of this area. Some of my friends down south poke fun of Temecula, but much of housing in popular areas of San Diego is just as densely packed as some areas of Temecula.

So, I prefer to say that in 20 years Temecula may be the next Pt Loma. Have you ever driven down Sports Arena Blvd or Rosencranz? Areas within the beach communities look just as bad – if not worse – than Esco, have just as much “diversity”, dated architecture, dense rentals, strip clubs, tacky retail, bars and crime.

Whenever I stay at my best friend’s house on Sunset Cliffs (Pt Loma), I cant help but admire the sweeping ocean views, architecture, etc. However, I RARELY get a good’s night sleep when I stay with her because of the rowdiness on the cliffs, partying South American neighbors nearby (they celebrate something every, single weekend), and rumbling street traffic. She’s also had two major thefts from her garage, which was left open for less than 5 minutes. Cops said it was probably meth addicts who comb the neighborhood for ‘easy targets.’

She’s also been assaulted by a homeless person while on an early morning walk.

I can happily say that none of this has happened to me or anyone else I know in Temecula. Pt Loma was once a quiet, laid back little beach community. It changed. Everything changes. It’s still lovely, but it’s not perfect. As much a I love the beach, I dont know if I could live there because of the noise.

The only thing you can really count on is change, dude. Temecula will continue to change and evolve just as San CV, SV and Cbad, etc. have changed. You either have to embrace change or move to Warner Springs. Or stop complaining and do something to make a difference in your community.

[dharmagirl]

Hey HipMatt,

Maybe you were like me this weekend and spent too much time at the Fair. I love the SD County Fair, but DESPISE the stroller mafia (having a stroller is not a Cut-someone-off-in-line-for-free card, nor does it make it OK to roll over feet and be generally rude and thoughtless), the idiots walking around, not paying attention and yakking on their cells, etc.

Or, like me, maybe you were trying to drive 60 mph on I-15 with rude motorists honking at you and flipping the bird. I just start clapping or laugh at them when they do this. Does anyone else look at the idiots doing 90 mph on 15 and feel as amazed as I do?

Well, whatever it was, you did sound a wee bit crabby, Matt.

Based upon my observations, what I see in Temecula is a group of educated and informed people working hard to steer the city in the right direction. As I’ve said before, I’ve met countless people who are committed to the area, involved and proud of this area. Some of my friends down south poke fun of Temecula, but much of housing in popular areas of San Diego is just as densely packed as some areas of Temecula.

So, I prefer to say that in 20 years Temecula may be the next Pt Loma. Have you ever driven down Sports Arena Blvd or Rosencranz? Areas within the beach communities look just as bad – if not worse – than Esco, have just as much “diversity”, dated architecture, dense rentals, strip clubs, tacky retail, bars and crime.

Whenever I stay at my best friend’s house on Sunset Cliffs (Pt Loma), I cant help but admire the sweeping ocean views, architecture, etc. However, I RARELY get a good’s night sleep when I stay with her because of the rowdiness on the cliffs, partying South American neighbors nearby (they celebrate something every, single weekend), and rumbling street traffic. She’s also had two major thefts from her garage, which was left open for less than 5 minutes. Cops said it was probably meth addicts who comb the neighborhood for ‘easy targets.’

She’s also been assaulted by a homeless person while on an early morning walk.

I can happily say that none of this has happened to me or anyone else I know in Temecula. Pt Loma was once a quiet, laid back little beach community. It changed. Everything changes. It’s still lovely, but it’s not perfect. As much a I love the beach, I dont know if I could live there because of the noise.

The only thing you can really count on is change, dude. Temecula will continue to change and evolve just as San CV, SV and Cbad, etc. have changed. You either have to embrace change or move to Warner Springs. Or stop complaining and do something to make a difference in your community.

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