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January 24, 2008 at 11:55 PM #142874January 25, 2008 at 12:18 AM #142913daveljParticipant
Yeah, tech earnings thus far have been hit or miss – some good, some bad (relatively speaking, that is). One thing to remember, however, is that lots of these companies are only meeting or beating estimates because of their overseas business and the appreciation of foreign currencies versus the dollar. Maybe the dollar will continue to tank and they’ll continue to get that benefit, but it seems like the rate of the dollar’s decline will slow going forward. So, it follows logically that that benefit will become less and less helpful going forward. I think if you backed out the currency adjustments tech earnings would look considerably worse this quarter (and the last couple).
January 25, 2008 at 12:18 AM #142979daveljParticipantYeah, tech earnings thus far have been hit or miss – some good, some bad (relatively speaking, that is). One thing to remember, however, is that lots of these companies are only meeting or beating estimates because of their overseas business and the appreciation of foreign currencies versus the dollar. Maybe the dollar will continue to tank and they’ll continue to get that benefit, but it seems like the rate of the dollar’s decline will slow going forward. So, it follows logically that that benefit will become less and less helpful going forward. I think if you backed out the currency adjustments tech earnings would look considerably worse this quarter (and the last couple).
January 25, 2008 at 12:18 AM #142890daveljParticipantYeah, tech earnings thus far have been hit or miss – some good, some bad (relatively speaking, that is). One thing to remember, however, is that lots of these companies are only meeting or beating estimates because of their overseas business and the appreciation of foreign currencies versus the dollar. Maybe the dollar will continue to tank and they’ll continue to get that benefit, but it seems like the rate of the dollar’s decline will slow going forward. So, it follows logically that that benefit will become less and less helpful going forward. I think if you backed out the currency adjustments tech earnings would look considerably worse this quarter (and the last couple).
January 25, 2008 at 12:18 AM #142651daveljParticipantYeah, tech earnings thus far have been hit or miss – some good, some bad (relatively speaking, that is). One thing to remember, however, is that lots of these companies are only meeting or beating estimates because of their overseas business and the appreciation of foreign currencies versus the dollar. Maybe the dollar will continue to tank and they’ll continue to get that benefit, but it seems like the rate of the dollar’s decline will slow going forward. So, it follows logically that that benefit will become less and less helpful going forward. I think if you backed out the currency adjustments tech earnings would look considerably worse this quarter (and the last couple).
January 25, 2008 at 12:18 AM #142881daveljParticipantYeah, tech earnings thus far have been hit or miss – some good, some bad (relatively speaking, that is). One thing to remember, however, is that lots of these companies are only meeting or beating estimates because of their overseas business and the appreciation of foreign currencies versus the dollar. Maybe the dollar will continue to tank and they’ll continue to get that benefit, but it seems like the rate of the dollar’s decline will slow going forward. So, it follows logically that that benefit will become less and less helpful going forward. I think if you backed out the currency adjustments tech earnings would look considerably worse this quarter (and the last couple).
January 25, 2008 at 12:35 AM #142892afx114ParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year’s.
“OMG! Apple’s best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!”
January 25, 2008 at 12:35 AM #142924afx114ParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year’s.
“OMG! Apple’s best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!”
January 25, 2008 at 12:35 AM #142900afx114ParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year’s.
“OMG! Apple’s best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!”
January 25, 2008 at 12:35 AM #142661afx114ParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year’s.
“OMG! Apple’s best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!”
January 25, 2008 at 12:35 AM #142991afx114ParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year’s.
“OMG! Apple’s best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!”
January 25, 2008 at 5:29 AM #142906CoronitaParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year's.
"OMG! Apple's best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!"
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1062.html
Sure, for the past quarter …..But you know how the game is played. It's not always just about how much a company actually makes, a lot has to do about meeting,beating, or falling short of expectations. Apple fell short on guidance for the next quarter, and it raised concerns of a slowdown (perhaps unfounded..but time will tell) And it announced this on a really bad day on wall street. Perhaps wall street has set the bar too high, but it is what it is. And when at a rich $200/share, any slight deviation from expectation, it was bound to get wacked. I doubt we'll see $200/share again in the short term. And if they have another quarter that just meets or lowers expectations next time, I would think wall street is going to wack the stock some more. As much as i like their products, I cant convince myself to buy shares at this level.
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The company's earnings-per-share guidance of 94 cents was 15 cents short of what Wall Street was expecting. The sales forecast of $6.8 billion was roughly $200 million short of analyst estimates. The period covers the first three months of 2008.
Apple executives provided little explanation for the guidance shortfall, noting that sales are still expected to grow 29 percent, more than in previous years.
Apple has historically given conservative guidance, but the size of the miss rattled investors already skittish about the health of the economy.
Lower-than-expected sales of iPods loomed over the results.
Many analysts were expecting Apple to sell around 25 million iPods during the holiday quarter. Apple, however, sold 22.1 million, a figure that stirred fears sales will suffer as the company tries to convince consumers to buy higher-end iPods.
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—– Sour grapes for everyone!
January 25, 2008 at 5:29 AM #142917CoronitaParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year's.
"OMG! Apple's best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!"
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1062.html
Sure, for the past quarter …..But you know how the game is played. It's not always just about how much a company actually makes, a lot has to do about meeting,beating, or falling short of expectations. Apple fell short on guidance for the next quarter, and it raised concerns of a slowdown (perhaps unfounded..but time will tell) And it announced this on a really bad day on wall street. Perhaps wall street has set the bar too high, but it is what it is. And when at a rich $200/share, any slight deviation from expectation, it was bound to get wacked. I doubt we'll see $200/share again in the short term. And if they have another quarter that just meets or lowers expectations next time, I would think wall street is going to wack the stock some more. As much as i like their products, I cant convince myself to buy shares at this level.
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The company's earnings-per-share guidance of 94 cents was 15 cents short of what Wall Street was expecting. The sales forecast of $6.8 billion was roughly $200 million short of analyst estimates. The period covers the first three months of 2008.
Apple executives provided little explanation for the guidance shortfall, noting that sales are still expected to grow 29 percent, more than in previous years.
Apple has historically given conservative guidance, but the size of the miss rattled investors already skittish about the health of the economy.
Lower-than-expected sales of iPods loomed over the results.
Many analysts were expecting Apple to sell around 25 million iPods during the holiday quarter. Apple, however, sold 22.1 million, a figure that stirred fears sales will suffer as the company tries to convince consumers to buy higher-end iPods.
—–
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
January 25, 2008 at 5:29 AM #142941CoronitaParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year's.
"OMG! Apple's best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!"
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1062.html
Sure, for the past quarter …..But you know how the game is played. It's not always just about how much a company actually makes, a lot has to do about meeting,beating, or falling short of expectations. Apple fell short on guidance for the next quarter, and it raised concerns of a slowdown (perhaps unfounded..but time will tell) And it announced this on a really bad day on wall street. Perhaps wall street has set the bar too high, but it is what it is. And when at a rich $200/share, any slight deviation from expectation, it was bound to get wacked. I doubt we'll see $200/share again in the short term. And if they have another quarter that just meets or lowers expectations next time, I would think wall street is going to wack the stock some more. As much as i like their products, I cant convince myself to buy shares at this level.
——
The company's earnings-per-share guidance of 94 cents was 15 cents short of what Wall Street was expecting. The sales forecast of $6.8 billion was roughly $200 million short of analyst estimates. The period covers the first three months of 2008.
Apple executives provided little explanation for the guidance shortfall, noting that sales are still expected to grow 29 percent, more than in previous years.
Apple has historically given conservative guidance, but the size of the miss rattled investors already skittish about the health of the economy.
Lower-than-expected sales of iPods loomed over the results.
Many analysts were expecting Apple to sell around 25 million iPods during the holiday quarter. Apple, however, sold 22.1 million, a figure that stirred fears sales will suffer as the company tries to convince consumers to buy higher-end iPods.
—–
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
January 25, 2008 at 5:29 AM #143003CoronitaParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year's.
"OMG! Apple's best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!"
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1062.html
Sure, for the past quarter …..But you know how the game is played. It's not always just about how much a company actually makes, a lot has to do about meeting,beating, or falling short of expectations. Apple fell short on guidance for the next quarter, and it raised concerns of a slowdown (perhaps unfounded..but time will tell) And it announced this on a really bad day on wall street. Perhaps wall street has set the bar too high, but it is what it is. And when at a rich $200/share, any slight deviation from expectation, it was bound to get wacked. I doubt we'll see $200/share again in the short term. And if they have another quarter that just meets or lowers expectations next time, I would think wall street is going to wack the stock some more. As much as i like their products, I cant convince myself to buy shares at this level.
——
The company's earnings-per-share guidance of 94 cents was 15 cents short of what Wall Street was expecting. The sales forecast of $6.8 billion was roughly $200 million short of analyst estimates. The period covers the first three months of 2008.
Apple executives provided little explanation for the guidance shortfall, noting that sales are still expected to grow 29 percent, more than in previous years.
Apple has historically given conservative guidance, but the size of the miss rattled investors already skittish about the health of the economy.
Lower-than-expected sales of iPods loomed over the results.
Many analysts were expecting Apple to sell around 25 million iPods during the holiday quarter. Apple, however, sold 22.1 million, a figure that stirred fears sales will suffer as the company tries to convince consumers to buy higher-end iPods.
—–
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
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