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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=briansd1]Of course Newt Gingrich is extremely intelligent.

My problem with Republicans like Newt who used faith and religion as wedge issues is that they don’t have any moral compass of their own.

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Spot on analysis Brian. If you go back and read the Contract with America, at least 4 of the tenants had to do with forcing Christianity on the masses, if I am not mistaken.

He was a veritable Billy Graham preaching from the house floor.

/sarcasm off

Faith and Religion as a wedge? Newt?

Allen when I lived in DFW Dick Armey hosted a speech by Walter Williams that I attended in my more political days. I’ll be damned if I remember much about the content but I am certain much of that night was not the kind of speech you’d hear these days.

[briansd1]

I remember that the reign of Newt Gingrich on the Hill was when the Christian Coalition’s influence was at its strongest. Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed were powerful figures in Washington.

Judge Green ruled in favor of the FEC on two other matters. She said the coalition in 1994 improperly aided then Representative Newt Gingrich (R., Ga.) and Iran-contra figure Oliver North, who was then the Republican Senate nominee in Virginia. The coalition will have to pay a fine, but the amount will be determined later.

“Pat Robertson and his Christian Coalition have slipped through a legal loophole,” said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State and a regular Christian Coalition critic. “The decision still provides plenty of evidence that the Christian Coalition is a hardball partisan political operation.” FEC officials declined to comment.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_22_116/ai_55670890/

At a time when many religious conservatives say the Republican Party is ignoring their issues and taking their support for granted, former House speaker and GOP idea man Newt Gingrich is turning his attention to the concerns of conservative Christians like never before.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/religion/2009/03/20/newt-gingrich-steps-up-efforts-to-mobilize-religious-conservatives.html

Gingrich’s marital and sex lives hardly qualify him to pass judgment on other people.

As Gingrich was condemning Bill Clinton, Gingrich was cheating on his wife with a woman 23 years his junior. Newt continued on the affair for more 6 years while married, even after reconciling with his wife; then he dumped his wife to marry his mistress.

For one thing, Gingrich pioneered a denial of adultery that some observers would later christen “the Newt Defense”: Oral sex doesn’t count. In a revealing psychological portrait of the “inner” Gingrich that appeared in Vanity Fair (September 1995), Gail Sheehy uncovered a woman, Anne Manning, who had an affair in Washington in 1977 with a married Gingrich.

“We had oral sex,” Manning revealed. “He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, ‘I never slept with her.'” She added that Gingrich threatened her: “If you ever tell anybody about this, I’ll say you’re lying.”

Manning was then married to a professor at West Georgia, the backwater college where Gingrich taught. “I don’t claim to be an angel,” she told Sheehy, but “he’s morally dishonest.”

Gingrich refused to comment on Manning’s charges, though he has admitted sexual indiscretions during his first marriage — hey, it was the ’70s, man! But Newt’s oral sex denial proved embarrassing at a time when he was the secular leader of the “family values” crowd, appearing frequently at Christian Coalition gatherings.

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/08/28news.html

http://marriage.about.com/od/politics/a/gingrichn_4.htm

[briansd1]

I remember that the reign of Newt Gingrich on the Hill was when the Christian Coalition’s influence was at its strongest. Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed were powerful figures in Washington.

Judge Green ruled in favor of the FEC on two other matters. She said the coalition in 1994 improperly aided then Representative Newt Gingrich (R., Ga.) and Iran-contra figure Oliver North, who was then the Republican Senate nominee in Virginia. The coalition will have to pay a fine, but the amount will be determined later.

“Pat Robertson and his Christian Coalition have slipped through a legal loophole,” said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State and a regular Christian Coalition critic. “The decision still provides plenty of evidence that the Christian Coalition is a hardball partisan political operation.” FEC officials declined to comment.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_22_116/ai_55670890/

At a time when many religious conservatives say the Republican Party is ignoring their issues and taking their support for granted, former House speaker and GOP idea man Newt Gingrich is turning his attention to the concerns of conservative Christians like never before.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/religion/2009/03/20/newt-gingrich-steps-up-efforts-to-mobilize-religious-conservatives.html

Gingrich’s marital and sex lives hardly qualify him to pass judgment on other people.

As Gingrich was condemning Bill Clinton, Gingrich was cheating on his wife with a woman 23 years his junior. Newt continued on the affair for more 6 years while married, even after reconciling with his wife; then he dumped his wife to marry his mistress.

For one thing, Gingrich pioneered a denial of adultery that some observers would later christen “the Newt Defense”: Oral sex doesn’t count. In a revealing psychological portrait of the “inner” Gingrich that appeared in Vanity Fair (September 1995), Gail Sheehy uncovered a woman, Anne Manning, who had an affair in Washington in 1977 with a married Gingrich.

“We had oral sex,” Manning revealed. “He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, ‘I never slept with her.'” She added that Gingrich threatened her: “If you ever tell anybody about this, I’ll say you’re lying.”

Manning was then married to a professor at West Georgia, the backwater college where Gingrich taught. “I don’t claim to be an angel,” she told Sheehy, but “he’s morally dishonest.”

Gingrich refused to comment on Manning’s charges, though he has admitted sexual indiscretions during his first marriage — hey, it was the ’70s, man! But Newt’s oral sex denial proved embarrassing at a time when he was the secular leader of the “family values” crowd, appearing frequently at Christian Coalition gatherings.

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/08/28news.html

http://marriage.about.com/od/politics/a/gingrichn_4.htm

[briansd1]

I remember that the reign of Newt Gingrich on the Hill was when the Christian Coalition’s influence was at its strongest. Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed were powerful figures in Washington.

Judge Green ruled in favor of the FEC on two other matters. She said the coalition in 1994 improperly aided then Representative Newt Gingrich (R., Ga.) and Iran-contra figure Oliver North, who was then the Republican Senate nominee in Virginia. The coalition will have to pay a fine, but the amount will be determined later.

“Pat Robertson and his Christian Coalition have slipped through a legal loophole,” said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State and a regular Christian Coalition critic. “The decision still provides plenty of evidence that the Christian Coalition is a hardball partisan political operation.” FEC officials declined to comment.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_22_116/ai_55670890/

At a time when many religious conservatives say the Republican Party is ignoring their issues and taking their support for granted, former House speaker and GOP idea man Newt Gingrich is turning his attention to the concerns of conservative Christians like never before.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/religion/2009/03/20/newt-gingrich-steps-up-efforts-to-mobilize-religious-conservatives.html

Gingrich’s marital and sex lives hardly qualify him to pass judgment on other people.

As Gingrich was condemning Bill Clinton, Gingrich was cheating on his wife with a woman 23 years his junior. Newt continued on the affair for more 6 years while married, even after reconciling with his wife; then he dumped his wife to marry his mistress.

For one thing, Gingrich pioneered a denial of adultery that some observers would later christen “the Newt Defense”: Oral sex doesn’t count. In a revealing psychological portrait of the “inner” Gingrich that appeared in Vanity Fair (September 1995), Gail Sheehy uncovered a woman, Anne Manning, who had an affair in Washington in 1977 with a married Gingrich.

“We had oral sex,” Manning revealed. “He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, ‘I never slept with her.'” She added that Gingrich threatened her: “If you ever tell anybody about this, I’ll say you’re lying.”

Manning was then married to a professor at West Georgia, the backwater college where Gingrich taught. “I don’t claim to be an angel,” she told Sheehy, but “he’s morally dishonest.”

Gingrich refused to comment on Manning’s charges, though he has admitted sexual indiscretions during his first marriage — hey, it was the ’70s, man! But Newt’s oral sex denial proved embarrassing at a time when he was the secular leader of the “family values” crowd, appearing frequently at Christian Coalition gatherings.

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/08/28news.html

http://marriage.about.com/od/politics/a/gingrichn_4.htm

[briansd1]

I remember that the reign of Newt Gingrich on the Hill was when the Christian Coalition’s influence was at its strongest. Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed were powerful figures in Washington.

Judge Green ruled in favor of the FEC on two other matters. She said the coalition in 1994 improperly aided then Representative Newt Gingrich (R., Ga.) and Iran-contra figure Oliver North, who was then the Republican Senate nominee in Virginia. The coalition will have to pay a fine, but the amount will be determined later.

“Pat Robertson and his Christian Coalition have slipped through a legal loophole,” said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State and a regular Christian Coalition critic. “The decision still provides plenty of evidence that the Christian Coalition is a hardball partisan political operation.” FEC officials declined to comment.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_22_116/ai_55670890/

At a time when many religious conservatives say the Republican Party is ignoring their issues and taking their support for granted, former House speaker and GOP idea man Newt Gingrich is turning his attention to the concerns of conservative Christians like never before.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/religion/2009/03/20/newt-gingrich-steps-up-efforts-to-mobilize-religious-conservatives.html

Gingrich’s marital and sex lives hardly qualify him to pass judgment on other people.

As Gingrich was condemning Bill Clinton, Gingrich was cheating on his wife with a woman 23 years his junior. Newt continued on the affair for more 6 years while married, even after reconciling with his wife; then he dumped his wife to marry his mistress.

For one thing, Gingrich pioneered a denial of adultery that some observers would later christen “the Newt Defense”: Oral sex doesn’t count. In a revealing psychological portrait of the “inner” Gingrich that appeared in Vanity Fair (September 1995), Gail Sheehy uncovered a woman, Anne Manning, who had an affair in Washington in 1977 with a married Gingrich.

“We had oral sex,” Manning revealed. “He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, ‘I never slept with her.'” She added that Gingrich threatened her: “If you ever tell anybody about this, I’ll say you’re lying.”

Manning was then married to a professor at West Georgia, the backwater college where Gingrich taught. “I don’t claim to be an angel,” she told Sheehy, but “he’s morally dishonest.”

Gingrich refused to comment on Manning’s charges, though he has admitted sexual indiscretions during his first marriage — hey, it was the ’70s, man! But Newt’s oral sex denial proved embarrassing at a time when he was the secular leader of the “family values” crowd, appearing frequently at Christian Coalition gatherings.

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/08/28news.html

http://marriage.about.com/od/politics/a/gingrichn_4.htm

[briansd1]

I remember that the reign of Newt Gingrich on the Hill was when the Christian Coalition’s influence was at its strongest. Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed were powerful figures in Washington.

Judge Green ruled in favor of the FEC on two other matters. She said the coalition in 1994 improperly aided then Representative Newt Gingrich (R., Ga.) and Iran-contra figure Oliver North, who was then the Republican Senate nominee in Virginia. The coalition will have to pay a fine, but the amount will be determined later.

“Pat Robertson and his Christian Coalition have slipped through a legal loophole,” said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State and a regular Christian Coalition critic. “The decision still provides plenty of evidence that the Christian Coalition is a hardball partisan political operation.” FEC officials declined to comment.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_22_116/ai_55670890/

At a time when many religious conservatives say the Republican Party is ignoring their issues and taking their support for granted, former House speaker and GOP idea man Newt Gingrich is turning his attention to the concerns of conservative Christians like never before.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/religion/2009/03/20/newt-gingrich-steps-up-efforts-to-mobilize-religious-conservatives.html

Gingrich’s marital and sex lives hardly qualify him to pass judgment on other people.

As Gingrich was condemning Bill Clinton, Gingrich was cheating on his wife with a woman 23 years his junior. Newt continued on the affair for more 6 years while married, even after reconciling with his wife; then he dumped his wife to marry his mistress.

For one thing, Gingrich pioneered a denial of adultery that some observers would later christen “the Newt Defense”: Oral sex doesn’t count. In a revealing psychological portrait of the “inner” Gingrich that appeared in Vanity Fair (September 1995), Gail Sheehy uncovered a woman, Anne Manning, who had an affair in Washington in 1977 with a married Gingrich.

“We had oral sex,” Manning revealed. “He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, ‘I never slept with her.'” She added that Gingrich threatened her: “If you ever tell anybody about this, I’ll say you’re lying.”

Manning was then married to a professor at West Georgia, the backwater college where Gingrich taught. “I don’t claim to be an angel,” she told Sheehy, but “he’s morally dishonest.”

Gingrich refused to comment on Manning’s charges, though he has admitted sexual indiscretions during his first marriage — hey, it was the ’70s, man! But Newt’s oral sex denial proved embarrassing at a time when he was the secular leader of the “family values” crowd, appearing frequently at Christian Coalition gatherings.

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/08/28news.html

http://marriage.about.com/od/politics/a/gingrichn_4.htm

[CardiffBaseball]

I’ve already said Gingrich’s personal life is scarred, this isn’t news. And many hard core types think he is a RINO if you must know.

However, the faith as a wedge stuff was not coming from him. He was laser focused on contract with america. The point Alan was trying to make is that you are making shit up. It’s called an agenda. Your agenda is simply that christian republicans are seeping from the sidewalks at every turn and must be stopped. Then you find a way to plop that agenda down, and in this case you plopped it into the wrong thread and got called on it. I don’t mind you having an agenda in some cases it drives discussion, but you need to step out of the prism you see the world through and realize it’s not all black and white.

I don’t recall anyone attaching Newt to the Falwell/Robertson wing. Read the contract with America (and see how much Bill implemented in a warmed over way)…. You aren’t going to see a lot of evangelical talk in it.

[CardiffBaseball]

I’ve already said Gingrich’s personal life is scarred, this isn’t news. And many hard core types think he is a RINO if you must know.

However, the faith as a wedge stuff was not coming from him. He was laser focused on contract with america. The point Alan was trying to make is that you are making shit up. It’s called an agenda. Your agenda is simply that christian republicans are seeping from the sidewalks at every turn and must be stopped. Then you find a way to plop that agenda down, and in this case you plopped it into the wrong thread and got called on it. I don’t mind you having an agenda in some cases it drives discussion, but you need to step out of the prism you see the world through and realize it’s not all black and white.

I don’t recall anyone attaching Newt to the Falwell/Robertson wing. Read the contract with America (and see how much Bill implemented in a warmed over way)…. You aren’t going to see a lot of evangelical talk in it.

[CardiffBaseball]

I’ve already said Gingrich’s personal life is scarred, this isn’t news. And many hard core types think he is a RINO if you must know.

However, the faith as a wedge stuff was not coming from him. He was laser focused on contract with america. The point Alan was trying to make is that you are making shit up. It’s called an agenda. Your agenda is simply that christian republicans are seeping from the sidewalks at every turn and must be stopped. Then you find a way to plop that agenda down, and in this case you plopped it into the wrong thread and got called on it. I don’t mind you having an agenda in some cases it drives discussion, but you need to step out of the prism you see the world through and realize it’s not all black and white.

I don’t recall anyone attaching Newt to the Falwell/Robertson wing. Read the contract with America (and see how much Bill implemented in a warmed over way)…. You aren’t going to see a lot of evangelical talk in it.

[CardiffBaseball]

I’ve already said Gingrich’s personal life is scarred, this isn’t news. And many hard core types think he is a RINO if you must know.

However, the faith as a wedge stuff was not coming from him. He was laser focused on contract with america. The point Alan was trying to make is that you are making shit up. It’s called an agenda. Your agenda is simply that christian republicans are seeping from the sidewalks at every turn and must be stopped. Then you find a way to plop that agenda down, and in this case you plopped it into the wrong thread and got called on it. I don’t mind you having an agenda in some cases it drives discussion, but you need to step out of the prism you see the world through and realize it’s not all black and white.

I don’t recall anyone attaching Newt to the Falwell/Robertson wing. Read the contract with America (and see how much Bill implemented in a warmed over way)…. You aren’t going to see a lot of evangelical talk in it.

[CardiffBaseball]

I’ve already said Gingrich’s personal life is scarred, this isn’t news. And many hard core types think he is a RINO if you must know.

However, the faith as a wedge stuff was not coming from him. He was laser focused on contract with america. The point Alan was trying to make is that you are making shit up. It’s called an agenda. Your agenda is simply that christian republicans are seeping from the sidewalks at every turn and must be stopped. Then you find a way to plop that agenda down, and in this case you plopped it into the wrong thread and got called on it. I don’t mind you having an agenda in some cases it drives discussion, but you need to step out of the prism you see the world through and realize it’s not all black and white.

I don’t recall anyone attaching Newt to the Falwell/Robertson wing. Read the contract with America (and see how much Bill implemented in a warmed over way)…. You aren’t going to see a lot of evangelical talk in it.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]I’ve already said Gingrich’s personal life is scarred, this isn’t news. And many hard core types think he is a RINO if you must know.

However, the faith as a wedge stuff was not coming from him. He was laser focused on contract with america. The point Alan was trying to make is that you are making shit up. It’s called an agenda. Your agenda is simply that christian republicans are seeping from the sidewalks at every turn and must be stopped. Then you find a way to plop that agenda down, and in this case you plopped it into the wrong thread and got called on it. I don’t mind you having an agenda in some cases it drives discussion, but you need to step out of the prism you see the world through and realize it’s not all black and white.

I don’t recall anyone attaching Newt to the Falwell/Robertson wing. Read the contract with America (and see how much Bill implemented in a warmed over way)…. You aren’t going to see a lot of evangelical talk in it.[/quote]

Cardiff: Bingo. And very well said.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]I’ve already said Gingrich’s personal life is scarred, this isn’t news. And many hard core types think he is a RINO if you must know.

However, the faith as a wedge stuff was not coming from him. He was laser focused on contract with america. The point Alan was trying to make is that you are making shit up. It’s called an agenda. Your agenda is simply that christian republicans are seeping from the sidewalks at every turn and must be stopped. Then you find a way to plop that agenda down, and in this case you plopped it into the wrong thread and got called on it. I don’t mind you having an agenda in some cases it drives discussion, but you need to step out of the prism you see the world through and realize it’s not all black and white.

I don’t recall anyone attaching Newt to the Falwell/Robertson wing. Read the contract with America (and see how much Bill implemented in a warmed over way)…. You aren’t going to see a lot of evangelical talk in it.[/quote]

Cardiff: Bingo. And very well said.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]I’ve already said Gingrich’s personal life is scarred, this isn’t news. And many hard core types think he is a RINO if you must know.

However, the faith as a wedge stuff was not coming from him. He was laser focused on contract with america. The point Alan was trying to make is that you are making shit up. It’s called an agenda. Your agenda is simply that christian republicans are seeping from the sidewalks at every turn and must be stopped. Then you find a way to plop that agenda down, and in this case you plopped it into the wrong thread and got called on it. I don’t mind you having an agenda in some cases it drives discussion, but you need to step out of the prism you see the world through and realize it’s not all black and white.

I don’t recall anyone attaching Newt to the Falwell/Robertson wing. Read the contract with America (and see how much Bill implemented in a warmed over way)…. You aren’t going to see a lot of evangelical talk in it.[/quote]

Cardiff: Bingo. And very well said.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]I’ve already said Gingrich’s personal life is scarred, this isn’t news. And many hard core types think he is a RINO if you must know.

However, the faith as a wedge stuff was not coming from him. He was laser focused on contract with america. The point Alan was trying to make is that you are making shit up. It’s called an agenda. Your agenda is simply that christian republicans are seeping from the sidewalks at every turn and must be stopped. Then you find a way to plop that agenda down, and in this case you plopped it into the wrong thread and got called on it. I don’t mind you having an agenda in some cases it drives discussion, but you need to step out of the prism you see the world through and realize it’s not all black and white.

I don’t recall anyone attaching Newt to the Falwell/Robertson wing. Read the contract with America (and see how much Bill implemented in a warmed over way)…. You aren’t going to see a lot of evangelical talk in it.[/quote]

Cardiff: Bingo. And very well said.

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