Tea Party – Housing Manifesto

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]Newt is a troll.

I am as far from a modern liberal as anyone on this site, and his post just makes me cringe. By the way I say that as an Evangelical personally who is more of a live and let live kind of guy Allen. [/quote]

Cardiff: My intent was not to insult your religious beliefs, Cardiff, but to take those ultra-right evangelicals who have hijacked the GOP to task. Combined with “purity tests”, and the rise of the Tea Party, we’re now confronted with a Republican Party that has abandoned its ideological roots and is pandering for votes in the most pathetic ways possible.

Newto represents everything that is wrong with the Right in the same way that IForget and danielwen represent everything that is wrong with the Left.

We’re a polarized country, with nobody in the middle. To hear thoughtful, reasoned moderate pols from both parties being demonized for their beliefs is alarming.

As far as Newto’s absence: He’s probably off setting fire to the Reichstag.

[CardiffBaseball]

I definitely agree with your take on the GOP. Now with the Ron Paul/Rand Paul folks, it makes me wonder if the Tea Party folks (to which I am not one) might cleanse the GOP of the pandering that the party has become.

Sean Vanity carries the torch…

Just curious as he’s basically considered a RINO by the hard-core right, plus he as a spotty past, but where did you come down on Newt in the 90s? I haven’t listened to him or given him much thought recently but I seem to recall him being an excellent orator, extremely fast on his feet, and a tough guy to debate. Now that he’s threatening to run, I wonder how he’ll do.

If he somehow won I can’t imagine he’ll have the mass downer effect on pubbies that Dole and McCain did, but he still has a lot of enemies with the party.

[CardiffBaseball]

I definitely agree with your take on the GOP. Now with the Ron Paul/Rand Paul folks, it makes me wonder if the Tea Party folks (to which I am not one) might cleanse the GOP of the pandering that the party has become.

Sean Vanity carries the torch…

Just curious as he’s basically considered a RINO by the hard-core right, plus he as a spotty past, but where did you come down on Newt in the 90s? I haven’t listened to him or given him much thought recently but I seem to recall him being an excellent orator, extremely fast on his feet, and a tough guy to debate. Now that he’s threatening to run, I wonder how he’ll do.

If he somehow won I can’t imagine he’ll have the mass downer effect on pubbies that Dole and McCain did, but he still has a lot of enemies with the party.

[CardiffBaseball]

I definitely agree with your take on the GOP. Now with the Ron Paul/Rand Paul folks, it makes me wonder if the Tea Party folks (to which I am not one) might cleanse the GOP of the pandering that the party has become.

Sean Vanity carries the torch…

Just curious as he’s basically considered a RINO by the hard-core right, plus he as a spotty past, but where did you come down on Newt in the 90s? I haven’t listened to him or given him much thought recently but I seem to recall him being an excellent orator, extremely fast on his feet, and a tough guy to debate. Now that he’s threatening to run, I wonder how he’ll do.

If he somehow won I can’t imagine he’ll have the mass downer effect on pubbies that Dole and McCain did, but he still has a lot of enemies with the party.

[CardiffBaseball]

I definitely agree with your take on the GOP. Now with the Ron Paul/Rand Paul folks, it makes me wonder if the Tea Party folks (to which I am not one) might cleanse the GOP of the pandering that the party has become.

Sean Vanity carries the torch…

Just curious as he’s basically considered a RINO by the hard-core right, plus he as a spotty past, but where did you come down on Newt in the 90s? I haven’t listened to him or given him much thought recently but I seem to recall him being an excellent orator, extremely fast on his feet, and a tough guy to debate. Now that he’s threatening to run, I wonder how he’ll do.

If he somehow won I can’t imagine he’ll have the mass downer effect on pubbies that Dole and McCain did, but he still has a lot of enemies with the party.

[CardiffBaseball]

I definitely agree with your take on the GOP. Now with the Ron Paul/Rand Paul folks, it makes me wonder if the Tea Party folks (to which I am not one) might cleanse the GOP of the pandering that the party has become.

Sean Vanity carries the torch…

Just curious as he’s basically considered a RINO by the hard-core right, plus he as a spotty past, but where did you come down on Newt in the 90s? I haven’t listened to him or given him much thought recently but I seem to recall him being an excellent orator, extremely fast on his feet, and a tough guy to debate. Now that he’s threatening to run, I wonder how he’ll do.

If he somehow won I can’t imagine he’ll have the mass downer effect on pubbies that Dole and McCain did, but he still has a lot of enemies with the party.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Cardiff: I liked Newt back in the 1990s, and for largely the same reason that I liked Clinton: He was a policy wonk.

You mention smart and fast on his feet (although Clinton ate his lunch on more than one occasion) and he was definitely both. He also had an innate understanding of politics and how to get things done.

Those elements are largely missing from the GOP, which now just settles for naysaying everything, while not offering any meaningful alternatives or good policy-driven responses.

The key element behind the GOP not only taking power with Reagan, but holding it all of those years, was solid, well-thought and -crafted policy positions. Whether talking about the Soviets and the Cold War, or the economy, or just the state of the union, the GOP had the message down and knew how to sell it.

Now its just bile and vitriolic spew and this retrenchment into religious self-righteousness and railing against everything that doesn’t meet the Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh/Palin sniff test.

God, I miss old Ronnie Ray-Gun.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Cardiff: I liked Newt back in the 1990s, and for largely the same reason that I liked Clinton: He was a policy wonk.

You mention smart and fast on his feet (although Clinton ate his lunch on more than one occasion) and he was definitely both. He also had an innate understanding of politics and how to get things done.

Those elements are largely missing from the GOP, which now just settles for naysaying everything, while not offering any meaningful alternatives or good policy-driven responses.

The key element behind the GOP not only taking power with Reagan, but holding it all of those years, was solid, well-thought and -crafted policy positions. Whether talking about the Soviets and the Cold War, or the economy, or just the state of the union, the GOP had the message down and knew how to sell it.

Now its just bile and vitriolic spew and this retrenchment into religious self-righteousness and railing against everything that doesn’t meet the Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh/Palin sniff test.

God, I miss old Ronnie Ray-Gun.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Cardiff: I liked Newt back in the 1990s, and for largely the same reason that I liked Clinton: He was a policy wonk.

You mention smart and fast on his feet (although Clinton ate his lunch on more than one occasion) and he was definitely both. He also had an innate understanding of politics and how to get things done.

Those elements are largely missing from the GOP, which now just settles for naysaying everything, while not offering any meaningful alternatives or good policy-driven responses.

The key element behind the GOP not only taking power with Reagan, but holding it all of those years, was solid, well-thought and -crafted policy positions. Whether talking about the Soviets and the Cold War, or the economy, or just the state of the union, the GOP had the message down and knew how to sell it.

Now its just bile and vitriolic spew and this retrenchment into religious self-righteousness and railing against everything that doesn’t meet the Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh/Palin sniff test.

God, I miss old Ronnie Ray-Gun.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Cardiff: I liked Newt back in the 1990s, and for largely the same reason that I liked Clinton: He was a policy wonk.

You mention smart and fast on his feet (although Clinton ate his lunch on more than one occasion) and he was definitely both. He also had an innate understanding of politics and how to get things done.

Those elements are largely missing from the GOP, which now just settles for naysaying everything, while not offering any meaningful alternatives or good policy-driven responses.

The key element behind the GOP not only taking power with Reagan, but holding it all of those years, was solid, well-thought and -crafted policy positions. Whether talking about the Soviets and the Cold War, or the economy, or just the state of the union, the GOP had the message down and knew how to sell it.

Now its just bile and vitriolic spew and this retrenchment into religious self-righteousness and railing against everything that doesn’t meet the Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh/Palin sniff test.

God, I miss old Ronnie Ray-Gun.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Cardiff: I liked Newt back in the 1990s, and for largely the same reason that I liked Clinton: He was a policy wonk.

You mention smart and fast on his feet (although Clinton ate his lunch on more than one occasion) and he was definitely both. He also had an innate understanding of politics and how to get things done.

Those elements are largely missing from the GOP, which now just settles for naysaying everything, while not offering any meaningful alternatives or good policy-driven responses.

The key element behind the GOP not only taking power with Reagan, but holding it all of those years, was solid, well-thought and -crafted policy positions. Whether talking about the Soviets and the Cold War, or the economy, or just the state of the union, the GOP had the message down and knew how to sell it.

Now its just bile and vitriolic spew and this retrenchment into religious self-righteousness and railing against everything that doesn’t meet the Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh/Palin sniff test.

God, I miss old Ronnie Ray-Gun.

[UCGal]

On the subject of Newt (gingrich – not newtosandiego)

He’s getting some flack for some comments he’s been making recently. Even Chris Wallace was taken aback by his recent comparisons of Obama to Nazi Germany.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37573.html

I will agree he’s a great policy wonk. I don’t agree with his policies, but he’s intelligent.

(I heard about this on MSNBC… not Keith Olbermann – but Joe Scarborough.)

[UCGal]

On the subject of Newt (gingrich – not newtosandiego)

He’s getting some flack for some comments he’s been making recently. Even Chris Wallace was taken aback by his recent comparisons of Obama to Nazi Germany.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37573.html

I will agree he’s a great policy wonk. I don’t agree with his policies, but he’s intelligent.

(I heard about this on MSNBC… not Keith Olbermann – but Joe Scarborough.)

[UCGal]

On the subject of Newt (gingrich – not newtosandiego)

He’s getting some flack for some comments he’s been making recently. Even Chris Wallace was taken aback by his recent comparisons of Obama to Nazi Germany.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37573.html

I will agree he’s a great policy wonk. I don’t agree with his policies, but he’s intelligent.

(I heard about this on MSNBC… not Keith Olbermann – but Joe Scarborough.)

[UCGal]

On the subject of Newt (gingrich – not newtosandiego)

He’s getting some flack for some comments he’s been making recently. Even Chris Wallace was taken aback by his recent comparisons of Obama to Nazi Germany.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37573.html

I will agree he’s a great policy wonk. I don’t agree with his policies, but he’s intelligent.

(I heard about this on MSNBC… not Keith Olbermann – but Joe Scarborough.)

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