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April 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM #543266April 22, 2010 at 2:27 PM #542309SK in CVParticipant
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That’s possible. I assumed 27% federal tax (some was taxed at 25%, some at 28%), 10% CA, $3K credit for three kids, $6K in education expenses for my wife and $2K for me. I had to pay a small fine since I owed $12K, combined.
It felt bad, the side business has little growth potential, I spent most of my ‘free’ time on it and I probably made less than $10/hour, after taxes.[/quote]
Biggest flaw in the calculation is with regards to the education costs. The most you can get is a $2,000 credit or a $4,000 deduction, regardless of how much you spend.
And in order to go from full child tax credits of $1,000 per child to zero, your income has to go up by $20,000 per child. 3 kids, thats $60,000 of additional income needed in order to wipe out the credit entirely. Adds about 5% to your effective tax rate.
27% federal, 10% state, 5% child care credit, 14% effective self employment tax rate, maximum of about 2% for the tuition credits, total of 58%.
April 22, 2010 at 2:27 PM #542424SK in CVParticipant[quote=captcha]
That’s possible. I assumed 27% federal tax (some was taxed at 25%, some at 28%), 10% CA, $3K credit for three kids, $6K in education expenses for my wife and $2K for me. I had to pay a small fine since I owed $12K, combined.
It felt bad, the side business has little growth potential, I spent most of my ‘free’ time on it and I probably made less than $10/hour, after taxes.[/quote]
Biggest flaw in the calculation is with regards to the education costs. The most you can get is a $2,000 credit or a $4,000 deduction, regardless of how much you spend.
And in order to go from full child tax credits of $1,000 per child to zero, your income has to go up by $20,000 per child. 3 kids, thats $60,000 of additional income needed in order to wipe out the credit entirely. Adds about 5% to your effective tax rate.
27% federal, 10% state, 5% child care credit, 14% effective self employment tax rate, maximum of about 2% for the tuition credits, total of 58%.
April 22, 2010 at 2:27 PM #542901SK in CVParticipant[quote=captcha]
That’s possible. I assumed 27% federal tax (some was taxed at 25%, some at 28%), 10% CA, $3K credit for three kids, $6K in education expenses for my wife and $2K for me. I had to pay a small fine since I owed $12K, combined.
It felt bad, the side business has little growth potential, I spent most of my ‘free’ time on it and I probably made less than $10/hour, after taxes.[/quote]
Biggest flaw in the calculation is with regards to the education costs. The most you can get is a $2,000 credit or a $4,000 deduction, regardless of how much you spend.
And in order to go from full child tax credits of $1,000 per child to zero, your income has to go up by $20,000 per child. 3 kids, thats $60,000 of additional income needed in order to wipe out the credit entirely. Adds about 5% to your effective tax rate.
27% federal, 10% state, 5% child care credit, 14% effective self employment tax rate, maximum of about 2% for the tuition credits, total of 58%.
April 22, 2010 at 2:27 PM #542993SK in CVParticipant[quote=captcha]
That’s possible. I assumed 27% federal tax (some was taxed at 25%, some at 28%), 10% CA, $3K credit for three kids, $6K in education expenses for my wife and $2K for me. I had to pay a small fine since I owed $12K, combined.
It felt bad, the side business has little growth potential, I spent most of my ‘free’ time on it and I probably made less than $10/hour, after taxes.[/quote]
Biggest flaw in the calculation is with regards to the education costs. The most you can get is a $2,000 credit or a $4,000 deduction, regardless of how much you spend.
And in order to go from full child tax credits of $1,000 per child to zero, your income has to go up by $20,000 per child. 3 kids, thats $60,000 of additional income needed in order to wipe out the credit entirely. Adds about 5% to your effective tax rate.
27% federal, 10% state, 5% child care credit, 14% effective self employment tax rate, maximum of about 2% for the tuition credits, total of 58%.
April 22, 2010 at 2:27 PM #543271SK in CVParticipant[quote=captcha]
That’s possible. I assumed 27% federal tax (some was taxed at 25%, some at 28%), 10% CA, $3K credit for three kids, $6K in education expenses for my wife and $2K for me. I had to pay a small fine since I owed $12K, combined.
It felt bad, the side business has little growth potential, I spent most of my ‘free’ time on it and I probably made less than $10/hour, after taxes.[/quote]
Biggest flaw in the calculation is with regards to the education costs. The most you can get is a $2,000 credit or a $4,000 deduction, regardless of how much you spend.
And in order to go from full child tax credits of $1,000 per child to zero, your income has to go up by $20,000 per child. 3 kids, thats $60,000 of additional income needed in order to wipe out the credit entirely. Adds about 5% to your effective tax rate.
27% federal, 10% state, 5% child care credit, 14% effective self employment tax rate, maximum of about 2% for the tuition credits, total of 58%.
April 22, 2010 at 2:28 PM #542314surveyorParticipant[quote=sdduuuude]
You and the other guy are trying to make it sound like “progressive tax” means “tax I like” and “regressive tax” as “tax I don’t like” which is unacceptable.Know what a term means and use it properly or don’t bring it up.[/quote]
Not the first time this has been said to BriBri.
LOL.
April 22, 2010 at 2:28 PM #542429surveyorParticipant[quote=sdduuuude]
You and the other guy are trying to make it sound like “progressive tax” means “tax I like” and “regressive tax” as “tax I don’t like” which is unacceptable.Know what a term means and use it properly or don’t bring it up.[/quote]
Not the first time this has been said to BriBri.
LOL.
April 22, 2010 at 2:28 PM #542906surveyorParticipant[quote=sdduuuude]
You and the other guy are trying to make it sound like “progressive tax” means “tax I like” and “regressive tax” as “tax I don’t like” which is unacceptable.Know what a term means and use it properly or don’t bring it up.[/quote]
Not the first time this has been said to BriBri.
LOL.
April 22, 2010 at 2:28 PM #542998surveyorParticipant[quote=sdduuuude]
You and the other guy are trying to make it sound like “progressive tax” means “tax I like” and “regressive tax” as “tax I don’t like” which is unacceptable.Know what a term means and use it properly or don’t bring it up.[/quote]
Not the first time this has been said to BriBri.
LOL.
April 22, 2010 at 2:28 PM #543276surveyorParticipant[quote=sdduuuude]
You and the other guy are trying to make it sound like “progressive tax” means “tax I like” and “regressive tax” as “tax I don’t like” which is unacceptable.Know what a term means and use it properly or don’t bring it up.[/quote]
Not the first time this has been said to BriBri.
LOL.
April 22, 2010 at 2:29 PM #542324sdduuuudeParticipant[quote=surveyor][quote=sdduuuude]
You and the other guy are trying to make it sound like “progressive tax” means “tax I like” and “regressive tax” as “tax I don’t like” which is unacceptable.Know what a term means and use it properly or don’t bring it up.[/quote]
Not the first time this has been said to BriBri.
LOL.[/quote]
brian significantly reduces the value of this site for me, filling up interesting threads with the same stupid shit over and over again with no basis of thought behind it. Hoping he goes the way of powayseller soon.
April 22, 2010 at 2:29 PM #542439sdduuuudeParticipant[quote=surveyor][quote=sdduuuude]
You and the other guy are trying to make it sound like “progressive tax” means “tax I like” and “regressive tax” as “tax I don’t like” which is unacceptable.Know what a term means and use it properly or don’t bring it up.[/quote]
Not the first time this has been said to BriBri.
LOL.[/quote]
brian significantly reduces the value of this site for me, filling up interesting threads with the same stupid shit over and over again with no basis of thought behind it. Hoping he goes the way of powayseller soon.
April 22, 2010 at 2:29 PM #542916sdduuuudeParticipant[quote=surveyor][quote=sdduuuude]
You and the other guy are trying to make it sound like “progressive tax” means “tax I like” and “regressive tax” as “tax I don’t like” which is unacceptable.Know what a term means and use it properly or don’t bring it up.[/quote]
Not the first time this has been said to BriBri.
LOL.[/quote]
brian significantly reduces the value of this site for me, filling up interesting threads with the same stupid shit over and over again with no basis of thought behind it. Hoping he goes the way of powayseller soon.
April 22, 2010 at 2:29 PM #543009sdduuuudeParticipant[quote=surveyor][quote=sdduuuude]
You and the other guy are trying to make it sound like “progressive tax” means “tax I like” and “regressive tax” as “tax I don’t like” which is unacceptable.Know what a term means and use it properly or don’t bring it up.[/quote]
Not the first time this has been said to BriBri.
LOL.[/quote]
brian significantly reduces the value of this site for me, filling up interesting threads with the same stupid shit over and over again with no basis of thought behind it. Hoping he goes the way of powayseller soon.
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