Sugar: The Bitter Truth

[jpinpb]

I always considered HFCS as insidious and evil. It’s in everythinng. Like he said, even bread. I think I might have mentioned it in other threads before. I was surprised that on some of the graphs, coincidentally, after 1975 when HFCS got introduced in the U.S. that the health problems skyrocketed. Now I can’t remember. I think it was obesity they were addressing, but maybe cardio. I was just impressed by the sharp rise about the same time we got HFCS. I’m sure sugar is just as bad as he says, but I really am convinced HFCS is a special breed of danger.

And I remember being a kid and trying one time Gatorade and thinking “bleh.” And years later drinking it. Oh, how tasty. Didn’t know Pepsi bought it and added the HFCS.

And yes, equalizer, sugar is addictive. After he explained the process the liver goes through once you digest it, I believe it. Basically comparing a can of coke to be just as bad as a can of beer.

Makes you really wonder about all these kids afflicted with ADD or AHDD. I really think a good amount of it is related to HFCS. And yet doctors just dispense meds, rather than educating parents and telling them to take their kids of all HFCS.

I’m so glad that growing up my parents really limited our sugar intake. I feel really lucky. My mom made so much from scratch. I remember being a kid and being so bothered that we couldn’t go to McDonald’s like the other kids or drink sodas. That was a rare thing. My dad was really anti-soda. And that was before 1975.

I don’t think I’m that old and it doesn’t seem that long ago, but boy, in comparison, it was a different world and much simpler.

On another note, I was not aware that it was Nixon that started WIC. I think I’ve learned more about Nixon this year than when I was in school.

[briansd1]

jpinpb, chemically, sugar is sugar so HFCS is not any worse than cane sugar. It’s just very cheap to produce so it’s cheap and easy to put into everything, at minute incremental cost.

Sugar is addictive in that humans crave sugar and salt. So if you’re a food vendor, you want to give what people want else they’ll complain that your food is “bland” and “bad” and you’ll lose sales. It’s a catch 22. Vendors try to outdo each other in “taste” so you end up with food that is ever more sugary and salty.

The food at restaurants is just as bad. Plenty of sugar, salt and MSG (in the sauces).

It’s best to make everything from scratch and not add processed stuff.

Eating “plain” food is actually healthiest. I’ve got my 80yo dad trained to eat no salt/sugar. He spent two weeks back east visiting relatives and his blood pressure jumped 10 points.

There is no raw sugar of any kind at my house.

If the government would stop subsidizing agribusiness, HFCS would not be so cheap. The danger is not HFCS itself but the cheap availability and abuse of it.

It’s the curse of wealth and plenty…. (BTW, did you know that people who suddenly get rich tend to die quickly? That’s because they have the money to gorge themselves).

[briansd1]

jpinpb, chemically, sugar is sugar so HFCS is not any worse than cane sugar. It’s just very cheap to produce so it’s cheap and easy to put into everything, at minute incremental cost.

Sugar is addictive in that humans crave sugar and salt. So if you’re a food vendor, you want to give what people want else they’ll complain that your food is “bland” and “bad” and you’ll lose sales. It’s a catch 22. Vendors try to outdo each other in “taste” so you end up with food that is ever more sugary and salty.

The food at restaurants is just as bad. Plenty of sugar, salt and MSG (in the sauces).

It’s best to make everything from scratch and not add processed stuff.

Eating “plain” food is actually healthiest. I’ve got my 80yo dad trained to eat no salt/sugar. He spent two weeks back east visiting relatives and his blood pressure jumped 10 points.

There is no raw sugar of any kind at my house.

If the government would stop subsidizing agribusiness, HFCS would not be so cheap. The danger is not HFCS itself but the cheap availability and abuse of it.

It’s the curse of wealth and plenty…. (BTW, did you know that people who suddenly get rich tend to die quickly? That’s because they have the money to gorge themselves).

[briansd1]

jpinpb, chemically, sugar is sugar so HFCS is not any worse than cane sugar. It’s just very cheap to produce so it’s cheap and easy to put into everything, at minute incremental cost.

Sugar is addictive in that humans crave sugar and salt. So if you’re a food vendor, you want to give what people want else they’ll complain that your food is “bland” and “bad” and you’ll lose sales. It’s a catch 22. Vendors try to outdo each other in “taste” so you end up with food that is ever more sugary and salty.

The food at restaurants is just as bad. Plenty of sugar, salt and MSG (in the sauces).

It’s best to make everything from scratch and not add processed stuff.

Eating “plain” food is actually healthiest. I’ve got my 80yo dad trained to eat no salt/sugar. He spent two weeks back east visiting relatives and his blood pressure jumped 10 points.

There is no raw sugar of any kind at my house.

If the government would stop subsidizing agribusiness, HFCS would not be so cheap. The danger is not HFCS itself but the cheap availability and abuse of it.

It’s the curse of wealth and plenty…. (BTW, did you know that people who suddenly get rich tend to die quickly? That’s because they have the money to gorge themselves).

[briansd1]

jpinpb, chemically, sugar is sugar so HFCS is not any worse than cane sugar. It’s just very cheap to produce so it’s cheap and easy to put into everything, at minute incremental cost.

Sugar is addictive in that humans crave sugar and salt. So if you’re a food vendor, you want to give what people want else they’ll complain that your food is “bland” and “bad” and you’ll lose sales. It’s a catch 22. Vendors try to outdo each other in “taste” so you end up with food that is ever more sugary and salty.

The food at restaurants is just as bad. Plenty of sugar, salt and MSG (in the sauces).

It’s best to make everything from scratch and not add processed stuff.

Eating “plain” food is actually healthiest. I’ve got my 80yo dad trained to eat no salt/sugar. He spent two weeks back east visiting relatives and his blood pressure jumped 10 points.

There is no raw sugar of any kind at my house.

If the government would stop subsidizing agribusiness, HFCS would not be so cheap. The danger is not HFCS itself but the cheap availability and abuse of it.

It’s the curse of wealth and plenty…. (BTW, did you know that people who suddenly get rich tend to die quickly? That’s because they have the money to gorge themselves).

[briansd1]

jpinpb, chemically, sugar is sugar so HFCS is not any worse than cane sugar. It’s just very cheap to produce so it’s cheap and easy to put into everything, at minute incremental cost.

Sugar is addictive in that humans crave sugar and salt. So if you’re a food vendor, you want to give what people want else they’ll complain that your food is “bland” and “bad” and you’ll lose sales. It’s a catch 22. Vendors try to outdo each other in “taste” so you end up with food that is ever more sugary and salty.

The food at restaurants is just as bad. Plenty of sugar, salt and MSG (in the sauces).

It’s best to make everything from scratch and not add processed stuff.

Eating “plain” food is actually healthiest. I’ve got my 80yo dad trained to eat no salt/sugar. He spent two weeks back east visiting relatives and his blood pressure jumped 10 points.

There is no raw sugar of any kind at my house.

If the government would stop subsidizing agribusiness, HFCS would not be so cheap. The danger is not HFCS itself but the cheap availability and abuse of it.

It’s the curse of wealth and plenty…. (BTW, did you know that people who suddenly get rich tend to die quickly? That’s because they have the money to gorge themselves).

[jpinpb]

Yes, from the video he explained the composition and the process through the liver and so I understand sugar and HFCS is the same. I guess that HFCS is used more b/c it is so cheap. Back in the day, the cost of sugar limited how much you would use.

And I agree, the government subsidzing the corn industry doesn’t give much incentive to change any of this, which is probably why the FDA considers HFCS as GRAS. A lot of money would be lost otherwise.

[jpinpb]

Yes, from the video he explained the composition and the process through the liver and so I understand sugar and HFCS is the same. I guess that HFCS is used more b/c it is so cheap. Back in the day, the cost of sugar limited how much you would use.

And I agree, the government subsidzing the corn industry doesn’t give much incentive to change any of this, which is probably why the FDA considers HFCS as GRAS. A lot of money would be lost otherwise.

[jpinpb]

Yes, from the video he explained the composition and the process through the liver and so I understand sugar and HFCS is the same. I guess that HFCS is used more b/c it is so cheap. Back in the day, the cost of sugar limited how much you would use.

And I agree, the government subsidzing the corn industry doesn’t give much incentive to change any of this, which is probably why the FDA considers HFCS as GRAS. A lot of money would be lost otherwise.

[jpinpb]

Yes, from the video he explained the composition and the process through the liver and so I understand sugar and HFCS is the same. I guess that HFCS is used more b/c it is so cheap. Back in the day, the cost of sugar limited how much you would use.

And I agree, the government subsidzing the corn industry doesn’t give much incentive to change any of this, which is probably why the FDA considers HFCS as GRAS. A lot of money would be lost otherwise.

[jpinpb]

Yes, from the video he explained the composition and the process through the liver and so I understand sugar and HFCS is the same. I guess that HFCS is used more b/c it is so cheap. Back in the day, the cost of sugar limited how much you would use.

And I agree, the government subsidzing the corn industry doesn’t give much incentive to change any of this, which is probably why the FDA considers HFCS as GRAS. A lot of money would be lost otherwise.

[NotCranky]

On this topic, Since my kids are getting a little older and have started getting out more with people outside of our normal circles it has been a constant struggle to ward off junk food poisoning by other parents. I guess that’s over dramatic but junk food, candy and soft drinks like “minute made coolers” and Capri Sun just come up by the ton in their little social worlds.

At two soccer games today the kids were issued no less than 6 “treats” each. Of course often times the parents feel like they have to give my 2 year old bags full of shit so he won’t feel left out. Add birthday parties almost every weekend, end of season parties , holiday festivals ect. and it’s way out of control if we didn’t take most of it away and were not working with my kids on “no thanks” which is very hard.

Sugar may be bad, but the willful excess is nuts.I really think that’s the problem.

[NotCranky]

On this topic, Since my kids are getting a little older and have started getting out more with people outside of our normal circles it has been a constant struggle to ward off junk food poisoning by other parents. I guess that’s over dramatic but junk food, candy and soft drinks like “minute made coolers” and Capri Sun just come up by the ton in their little social worlds.

At two soccer games today the kids were issued no less than 6 “treats” each. Of course often times the parents feel like they have to give my 2 year old bags full of shit so he won’t feel left out. Add birthday parties almost every weekend, end of season parties , holiday festivals ect. and it’s way out of control if we didn’t take most of it away and were not working with my kids on “no thanks” which is very hard.

Sugar may be bad, but the willful excess is nuts.I really think that’s the problem.

[NotCranky]

On this topic, Since my kids are getting a little older and have started getting out more with people outside of our normal circles it has been a constant struggle to ward off junk food poisoning by other parents. I guess that’s over dramatic but junk food, candy and soft drinks like “minute made coolers” and Capri Sun just come up by the ton in their little social worlds.

At two soccer games today the kids were issued no less than 6 “treats” each. Of course often times the parents feel like they have to give my 2 year old bags full of shit so he won’t feel left out. Add birthday parties almost every weekend, end of season parties , holiday festivals ect. and it’s way out of control if we didn’t take most of it away and were not working with my kids on “no thanks” which is very hard.

Sugar may be bad, but the willful excess is nuts.I really think that’s the problem.

[NotCranky]

On this topic, Since my kids are getting a little older and have started getting out more with people outside of our normal circles it has been a constant struggle to ward off junk food poisoning by other parents. I guess that’s over dramatic but junk food, candy and soft drinks like “minute made coolers” and Capri Sun just come up by the ton in their little social worlds.

At two soccer games today the kids were issued no less than 6 “treats” each. Of course often times the parents feel like they have to give my 2 year old bags full of shit so he won’t feel left out. Add birthday parties almost every weekend, end of season parties , holiday festivals ect. and it’s way out of control if we didn’t take most of it away and were not working with my kids on “no thanks” which is very hard.

Sugar may be bad, but the willful excess is nuts.I really think that’s the problem.

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