Skyranch in Santee

[natty]

took a trip to skyranch with the missus:

– View in the afternoon facing due north, better than south west or western views.
– Overall view, good, but not great.
– At our age, waiting 10-15 years for Santee to ‘maybe’ come along is not worth it for us.
– Info provided from a daily commuter of the area: The traffic flow on 52 heading west and east during rush hour is not reliable or ideal. Connection to 67 should not alleviate this.
– ‘Feel’ of neighborhood(and we drove/walked entire area)not one of price range places were sold for or are trying to be sold for.
-Costco, best buy, large chain commercial businesses & restaurants, do not enrich a community.
-Santee is Ramona adjacent, not La Jolla. Over looking old run down houses or apartment buildings, properties with multiple cars rotting away in back yard, etc…

appreciate the opinions, and Sky ranch Realtor providing info, but this area is not for us-and being familiar with the area and ‘growth’ of last 15 years, we knew this going in, but felt it necessary to at least give a look.

[nocommonsense]

Well, this is sadly a common misconception that better financial resources lead to better education. It’s one of the things that appear to make sense initially but fall apart upon closer inspection.

It’s not the parents’ wealth or even their participation that matter the most (do they matter? Of course). It’s the kid’s own initiative and drive, both factors heavily influenced by his/her ethnic culture. I grew up in a totalitarian foreign country on my parents’ $20/month combined salaries. We had no computers/laptops at home or at school, only bare life necessities. In the schools, There were only blackboards,chalks, and old fashioned books. The culture was that only after you suffer/sweat way beyond others can you get ahead of others. And that’s exactly how I got where I am now. Numerous examples can be found here in the US in impoverished first generation asian immigrants families where their children rise to upper class through hard work.

Here in the States, people are fooled into thinking more money or funding means better education, while at the same time largely ignoring the two ethnic cultures (you know which two) that encourage their youth to be lazy and worship a low-life life style and rely on the government. Truly a shame.

[quote=santeeman]I think your comments about schools in Santee are a little off. You are comparing apples to oranges. You can’t say that areas like CV and Poway and whoever have much better public schools across the board.

IMO Maybe they have higher test scores or better facilities but, last time I checked they weren’t giving out bachelors degrees upon 8th grade graduation.

The large majority of population of children these schools have come from affluent families. These parents have money to send their kids to good preschools and tend to be educated and educate and stimulate their childrens learning.

IMO The schools can’t take all the credit for high scores when there pool of students come on the whole much better prepared . Those kids are much easier to teach.

Santee families as you well point out tend to be more middle to upper-middle income. With areas of low income housing units. With less education and opportunities for their kids. So when a Santee school comes up with over an 800 api for their low income or poverty level population, it reflects how well our school is working. Not just for the privileged, but for all their students. That shows true hard work and effort that our teachers put in to make a difference. That’s what make our schools so good, hard working teachers who care.

800 plus API averages Santee schools and improving every year. With schools possibly breaking the 900’s next year. All with less money than Poway and CV.

I am not wealthy but I certainly wouldn’t spend 200k more on a home in CV or Poway just to get my kid in a school with test scores that are not much higher than in Santee. IMO It’s about value. It’s simply not worth it.[/quote]

[nocommonsense]

Well, this is sadly a common misconception that better financial resources lead to better education. It’s one of the things that appear to make sense initially but fall apart upon closer inspection.

It’s not the parents’ wealth or even their participation that matter the most (do they matter? Of course). It’s the kid’s own initiative and drive, both factors heavily influenced by his/her ethnic culture. I grew up in a totalitarian foreign country on my parents’ $20/month combined salaries. We had no computers/laptops at home or at school, only bare life necessities. In the schools, There were only blackboards,chalks, and old fashioned books. The culture was that only after you suffer/sweat way beyond others can you get ahead of others. And that’s exactly how I got where I am now. Numerous examples can be found here in the US in impoverished first generation asian immigrants families where their children rise to upper class through hard work.

Here in the States, people are fooled into thinking more money or funding means better education, while at the same time largely ignoring the two ethnic cultures (you know which two) that encourage their youth to be lazy and worship a low-life life style and rely on the government. Truly a shame.

[quote=santeeman]I think your comments about schools in Santee are a little off. You are comparing apples to oranges. You can’t say that areas like CV and Poway and whoever have much better public schools across the board.

IMO Maybe they have higher test scores or better facilities but, last time I checked they weren’t giving out bachelors degrees upon 8th grade graduation.

The large majority of population of children these schools have come from affluent families. These parents have money to send their kids to good preschools and tend to be educated and educate and stimulate their childrens learning.

IMO The schools can’t take all the credit for high scores when there pool of students come on the whole much better prepared . Those kids are much easier to teach.

Santee families as you well point out tend to be more middle to upper-middle income. With areas of low income housing units. With less education and opportunities for their kids. So when a Santee school comes up with over an 800 api for their low income or poverty level population, it reflects how well our school is working. Not just for the privileged, but for all their students. That shows true hard work and effort that our teachers put in to make a difference. That’s what make our schools so good, hard working teachers who care.

800 plus API averages Santee schools and improving every year. With schools possibly breaking the 900’s next year. All with less money than Poway and CV.

I am not wealthy but I certainly wouldn’t spend 200k more on a home in CV or Poway just to get my kid in a school with test scores that are not much higher than in Santee. IMO It’s about value. It’s simply not worth it.[/quote]

[nocommonsense]

Well, this is sadly a common misconception that better financial resources lead to better education. It’s one of the things that appear to make sense initially but fall apart upon closer inspection.

It’s not the parents’ wealth or even their participation that matter the most (do they matter? Of course). It’s the kid’s own initiative and drive, both factors heavily influenced by his/her ethnic culture. I grew up in a totalitarian foreign country on my parents’ $20/month combined salaries. We had no computers/laptops at home or at school, only bare life necessities. In the schools, There were only blackboards,chalks, and old fashioned books. The culture was that only after you suffer/sweat way beyond others can you get ahead of others. And that’s exactly how I got where I am now. Numerous examples can be found here in the US in impoverished first generation asian immigrants families where their children rise to upper class through hard work.

Here in the States, people are fooled into thinking more money or funding means better education, while at the same time largely ignoring the two ethnic cultures (you know which two) that encourage their youth to be lazy and worship a low-life life style and rely on the government. Truly a shame.

[quote=santeeman]I think your comments about schools in Santee are a little off. You are comparing apples to oranges. You can’t say that areas like CV and Poway and whoever have much better public schools across the board.

IMO Maybe they have higher test scores or better facilities but, last time I checked they weren’t giving out bachelors degrees upon 8th grade graduation.

The large majority of population of children these schools have come from affluent families. These parents have money to send their kids to good preschools and tend to be educated and educate and stimulate their childrens learning.

IMO The schools can’t take all the credit for high scores when there pool of students come on the whole much better prepared . Those kids are much easier to teach.

Santee families as you well point out tend to be more middle to upper-middle income. With areas of low income housing units. With less education and opportunities for their kids. So when a Santee school comes up with over an 800 api for their low income or poverty level population, it reflects how well our school is working. Not just for the privileged, but for all their students. That shows true hard work and effort that our teachers put in to make a difference. That’s what make our schools so good, hard working teachers who care.

800 plus API averages Santee schools and improving every year. With schools possibly breaking the 900’s next year. All with less money than Poway and CV.

I am not wealthy but I certainly wouldn’t spend 200k more on a home in CV or Poway just to get my kid in a school with test scores that are not much higher than in Santee. IMO It’s about value. It’s simply not worth it.[/quote]

[nocommonsense]

Well, this is sadly a common misconception that better financial resources lead to better education. It’s one of the things that appear to make sense initially but fall apart upon closer inspection.

It’s not the parents’ wealth or even their participation that matter the most (do they matter? Of course). It’s the kid’s own initiative and drive, both factors heavily influenced by his/her ethnic culture. I grew up in a totalitarian foreign country on my parents’ $20/month combined salaries. We had no computers/laptops at home or at school, only bare life necessities. In the schools, There were only blackboards,chalks, and old fashioned books. The culture was that only after you suffer/sweat way beyond others can you get ahead of others. And that’s exactly how I got where I am now. Numerous examples can be found here in the US in impoverished first generation asian immigrants families where their children rise to upper class through hard work.

Here in the States, people are fooled into thinking more money or funding means better education, while at the same time largely ignoring the two ethnic cultures (you know which two) that encourage their youth to be lazy and worship a low-life life style and rely on the government. Truly a shame.

[quote=santeeman]I think your comments about schools in Santee are a little off. You are comparing apples to oranges. You can’t say that areas like CV and Poway and whoever have much better public schools across the board.

IMO Maybe they have higher test scores or better facilities but, last time I checked they weren’t giving out bachelors degrees upon 8th grade graduation.

The large majority of population of children these schools have come from affluent families. These parents have money to send their kids to good preschools and tend to be educated and educate and stimulate their childrens learning.

IMO The schools can’t take all the credit for high scores when there pool of students come on the whole much better prepared . Those kids are much easier to teach.

Santee families as you well point out tend to be more middle to upper-middle income. With areas of low income housing units. With less education and opportunities for their kids. So when a Santee school comes up with over an 800 api for their low income or poverty level population, it reflects how well our school is working. Not just for the privileged, but for all their students. That shows true hard work and effort that our teachers put in to make a difference. That’s what make our schools so good, hard working teachers who care.

800 plus API averages Santee schools and improving every year. With schools possibly breaking the 900’s next year. All with less money than Poway and CV.

I am not wealthy but I certainly wouldn’t spend 200k more on a home in CV or Poway just to get my kid in a school with test scores that are not much higher than in Santee. IMO It’s about value. It’s simply not worth it.[/quote]

[nocommonsense]

Well, this is sadly a common misconception that better financial resources lead to better education. It’s one of the things that appear to make sense initially but fall apart upon closer inspection.

It’s not the parents’ wealth or even their participation that matter the most (do they matter? Of course). It’s the kid’s own initiative and drive, both factors heavily influenced by his/her ethnic culture. I grew up in a totalitarian foreign country on my parents’ $20/month combined salaries. We had no computers/laptops at home or at school, only bare life necessities. In the schools, There were only blackboards,chalks, and old fashioned books. The culture was that only after you suffer/sweat way beyond others can you get ahead of others. And that’s exactly how I got where I am now. Numerous examples can be found here in the US in impoverished first generation asian immigrants families where their children rise to upper class through hard work.

Here in the States, people are fooled into thinking more money or funding means better education, while at the same time largely ignoring the two ethnic cultures (you know which two) that encourage their youth to be lazy and worship a low-life life style and rely on the government. Truly a shame.

[quote=santeeman]I think your comments about schools in Santee are a little off. You are comparing apples to oranges. You can’t say that areas like CV and Poway and whoever have much better public schools across the board.

IMO Maybe they have higher test scores or better facilities but, last time I checked they weren’t giving out bachelors degrees upon 8th grade graduation.

The large majority of population of children these schools have come from affluent families. These parents have money to send their kids to good preschools and tend to be educated and educate and stimulate their childrens learning.

IMO The schools can’t take all the credit for high scores when there pool of students come on the whole much better prepared . Those kids are much easier to teach.

Santee families as you well point out tend to be more middle to upper-middle income. With areas of low income housing units. With less education and opportunities for their kids. So when a Santee school comes up with over an 800 api for their low income or poverty level population, it reflects how well our school is working. Not just for the privileged, but for all their students. That shows true hard work and effort that our teachers put in to make a difference. That’s what make our schools so good, hard working teachers who care.

800 plus API averages Santee schools and improving every year. With schools possibly breaking the 900’s next year. All with less money than Poway and CV.

I am not wealthy but I certainly wouldn’t spend 200k more on a home in CV or Poway just to get my kid in a school with test scores that are not much higher than in Santee. IMO It’s about value. It’s simply not worth it.[/quote]

[santeeman]

It’s actually a very nice community.

“The La Jolla of East County” comes from the city of Santee’s government. Santee will NEVER be La Jolla. La Jolla is La Jolla, because it’s at the beach. The phrase was coined to compare their vision of Santee to being the “Jewel of East County”.

In East County, that is already sort of the idea in most peoples minds.

There are many places in East County that the home prices are in the 800k plus price range. In Lakeside there is Eucalytus Hills. El Cajon has Mount Helix. Alpine has its secluded gated home communities, and of course there are more I haven’t listed.

Santee has none of those kinds of communities. Many of these areas don’t even have high performing schools, yet people pay those prices. It really dosen’t make sense, because Santee IS nicer than all of them, with the exception of Alpine. Alpine is a part of El Cajon though, not a city itself.

Lakeside, El Cajon, and La Mesa are just not as “NICE”. Even though they have the pocket areas that are much higher in price.

So to me it makes sense to have communities in the 800k price range coming in. It’s actually over due in my mind.

I don’t think it is faster to get to Ramona than to La Jolla. By the way Ramona has more 800k plus areas than Santee and IMO it’s not as nice either.
What is with all the hate on Santee?

[santeeman]

It’s actually a very nice community.

“The La Jolla of East County” comes from the city of Santee’s government. Santee will NEVER be La Jolla. La Jolla is La Jolla, because it’s at the beach. The phrase was coined to compare their vision of Santee to being the “Jewel of East County”.

In East County, that is already sort of the idea in most peoples minds.

There are many places in East County that the home prices are in the 800k plus price range. In Lakeside there is Eucalytus Hills. El Cajon has Mount Helix. Alpine has its secluded gated home communities, and of course there are more I haven’t listed.

Santee has none of those kinds of communities. Many of these areas don’t even have high performing schools, yet people pay those prices. It really dosen’t make sense, because Santee IS nicer than all of them, with the exception of Alpine. Alpine is a part of El Cajon though, not a city itself.

Lakeside, El Cajon, and La Mesa are just not as “NICE”. Even though they have the pocket areas that are much higher in price.

So to me it makes sense to have communities in the 800k price range coming in. It’s actually over due in my mind.

I don’t think it is faster to get to Ramona than to La Jolla. By the way Ramona has more 800k plus areas than Santee and IMO it’s not as nice either.
What is with all the hate on Santee?

[santeeman]

It’s actually a very nice community.

“The La Jolla of East County” comes from the city of Santee’s government. Santee will NEVER be La Jolla. La Jolla is La Jolla, because it’s at the beach. The phrase was coined to compare their vision of Santee to being the “Jewel of East County”.

In East County, that is already sort of the idea in most peoples minds.

There are many places in East County that the home prices are in the 800k plus price range. In Lakeside there is Eucalytus Hills. El Cajon has Mount Helix. Alpine has its secluded gated home communities, and of course there are more I haven’t listed.

Santee has none of those kinds of communities. Many of these areas don’t even have high performing schools, yet people pay those prices. It really dosen’t make sense, because Santee IS nicer than all of them, with the exception of Alpine. Alpine is a part of El Cajon though, not a city itself.

Lakeside, El Cajon, and La Mesa are just not as “NICE”. Even though they have the pocket areas that are much higher in price.

So to me it makes sense to have communities in the 800k price range coming in. It’s actually over due in my mind.

I don’t think it is faster to get to Ramona than to La Jolla. By the way Ramona has more 800k plus areas than Santee and IMO it’s not as nice either.
What is with all the hate on Santee?

[santeeman]

It’s actually a very nice community.

“The La Jolla of East County” comes from the city of Santee’s government. Santee will NEVER be La Jolla. La Jolla is La Jolla, because it’s at the beach. The phrase was coined to compare their vision of Santee to being the “Jewel of East County”.

In East County, that is already sort of the idea in most peoples minds.

There are many places in East County that the home prices are in the 800k plus price range. In Lakeside there is Eucalytus Hills. El Cajon has Mount Helix. Alpine has its secluded gated home communities, and of course there are more I haven’t listed.

Santee has none of those kinds of communities. Many of these areas don’t even have high performing schools, yet people pay those prices. It really dosen’t make sense, because Santee IS nicer than all of them, with the exception of Alpine. Alpine is a part of El Cajon though, not a city itself.

Lakeside, El Cajon, and La Mesa are just not as “NICE”. Even though they have the pocket areas that are much higher in price.

So to me it makes sense to have communities in the 800k price range coming in. It’s actually over due in my mind.

I don’t think it is faster to get to Ramona than to La Jolla. By the way Ramona has more 800k plus areas than Santee and IMO it’s not as nice either.
What is with all the hate on Santee?

[santeeman]

It’s actually a very nice community.

“The La Jolla of East County” comes from the city of Santee’s government. Santee will NEVER be La Jolla. La Jolla is La Jolla, because it’s at the beach. The phrase was coined to compare their vision of Santee to being the “Jewel of East County”.

In East County, that is already sort of the idea in most peoples minds.

There are many places in East County that the home prices are in the 800k plus price range. In Lakeside there is Eucalytus Hills. El Cajon has Mount Helix. Alpine has its secluded gated home communities, and of course there are more I haven’t listed.

Santee has none of those kinds of communities. Many of these areas don’t even have high performing schools, yet people pay those prices. It really dosen’t make sense, because Santee IS nicer than all of them, with the exception of Alpine. Alpine is a part of El Cajon though, not a city itself.

Lakeside, El Cajon, and La Mesa are just not as “NICE”. Even though they have the pocket areas that are much higher in price.

So to me it makes sense to have communities in the 800k price range coming in. It’s actually over due in my mind.

I don’t think it is faster to get to Ramona than to La Jolla. By the way Ramona has more 800k plus areas than Santee and IMO it’s not as nice either.
What is with all the hate on Santee?

[PKMAN]

[quote=sunny88]Santee is clearly not as bad as many people think it is…[/quote]
sunny88 – you started this thread and also asked about Riverwalk. Did you end up buying in Santee? If not, where and why?

[PKMAN]

[quote=sunny88]Santee is clearly not as bad as many people think it is…[/quote]
sunny88 – you started this thread and also asked about Riverwalk. Did you end up buying in Santee? If not, where and why?

[PKMAN]

[quote=sunny88]Santee is clearly not as bad as many people think it is…[/quote]
sunny88 – you started this thread and also asked about Riverwalk. Did you end up buying in Santee? If not, where and why?

[PKMAN]

[quote=sunny88]Santee is clearly not as bad as many people think it is…[/quote]
sunny88 – you started this thread and also asked about Riverwalk. Did you end up buying in Santee? If not, where and why?

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