Skyranch in Santee

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[quote=Hobie][quote=kcal09]$342 HOA covers landscaping and maintenance of common areas. Unfortunately, there are no facilities such as tennis court or swimming pool so the monthly fee seems to be quite high. Granted, there is no MR but over $4k annually is close to a hidden MR.[/quote]

HOA Landscaping costs are likely to rise as plants mature and require more time to maintain.

HOA fees never go down, no matter what.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=flu]
Well, I have visited Santee but never visited the actual model homes (no interest)..So I’ll have to take your word for it that the 1 acre is not useable on those homes..But then this sort of contradicts SRO’s selling points about these homes.. Because one of those selling points was it’s situated on a 1 acre land. I’m not sure I understand what is the point of 1 acre of land, if most of it is slopes that’s not usable…It just doesn’t seem like it would be different from say a DH/Saratoga home that sits on a canyon for which the hills/slopes is controlled by HOA/city… In both cases, the land isn’t usable…In fact, I’d prefer if that’s the case, the land belongs to the HOA/city so that they can deal with the maintenance of it…Seems like it would be a maintenance headache, clearing brush, dealing with wildlife,etc that the homeowner has to deal with. . .

Again, I don’t get it. I assume 1 acre means 1 acre of land that I could say raise a horse on. (not that I would). . .[/quote](emphasis added)

Flu, none of SD County is “flatlands” except maybe Kearny Mesa, parts of MM and parts of Otay Mesa. Most 1/2 AC + lots in SD County are partially sloped. It is still valuable to have this land around your property, even if you don’t USE it. In many ways, it is better for the downslope portion to be indiv. owned rather than maintained by the City because you can install drains to drain your property and pool off of it if you wish. And look what happened with “publicly-maintained” McGonigle Cyn in CV?? This went on for more than 25 yrs. until it was finally successfully moved out.

See: http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/7/16/mcgonigle-canyon-illegal-alien-camp-332258

[quote-flu]I’d say places parts of Mira Mesa are a much better place to be frankly, with the total package of cost/location/convenience.[/quote]

flu, there is a BOATLOAD OF DIFFERENCE between living 6-10 feet from the next house in MM and living 35-100 feet from the next house in Sky Ranch, or ANY AREA which is zoned 3 or less units per acre. It doesn’t matter is the area between the units is brush, hedges, concrete, palms, veg. garden, orchard, ‘possum families or teeming with rattlesnakes or a combination of any of these, the units separated by 35-100 feet HAVE FAR MORE PRIVACY. IMHO, this is the bottom line.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=flu]
Well, I have visited Santee but never visited the actual model homes (no interest)..So I’ll have to take your word for it that the 1 acre is not useable on those homes..But then this sort of contradicts SRO’s selling points about these homes.. Because one of those selling points was it’s situated on a 1 acre land. I’m not sure I understand what is the point of 1 acre of land, if most of it is slopes that’s not usable…It just doesn’t seem like it would be different from say a DH/Saratoga home that sits on a canyon for which the hills/slopes is controlled by HOA/city… In both cases, the land isn’t usable…In fact, I’d prefer if that’s the case, the land belongs to the HOA/city so that they can deal with the maintenance of it…Seems like it would be a maintenance headache, clearing brush, dealing with wildlife,etc that the homeowner has to deal with. . .

Again, I don’t get it. I assume 1 acre means 1 acre of land that I could say raise a horse on. (not that I would). . .[/quote](emphasis added)

Flu, none of SD County is “flatlands” except maybe Kearny Mesa, parts of MM and parts of Otay Mesa. Most 1/2 AC + lots in SD County are partially sloped. It is still valuable to have this land around your property, even if you don’t USE it. In many ways, it is better for the downslope portion to be indiv. owned rather than maintained by the City because you can install drains to drain your property and pool off of it if you wish. And look what happened with “publicly-maintained” McGonigle Cyn in CV?? This went on for more than 25 yrs. until it was finally successfully moved out.

See: http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/7/16/mcgonigle-canyon-illegal-alien-camp-332258

[quote-flu]I’d say places parts of Mira Mesa are a much better place to be frankly, with the total package of cost/location/convenience.[/quote]

flu, there is a BOATLOAD OF DIFFERENCE between living 6-10 feet from the next house in MM and living 35-100 feet from the next house in Sky Ranch, or ANY AREA which is zoned 3 or less units per acre. It doesn’t matter is the area between the units is brush, hedges, concrete, palms, veg. garden, orchard, ‘possum families or teeming with rattlesnakes or a combination of any of these, the units separated by 35-100 feet HAVE FAR MORE PRIVACY. IMHO, this is the bottom line.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=flu]
Well, I have visited Santee but never visited the actual model homes (no interest)..So I’ll have to take your word for it that the 1 acre is not useable on those homes..But then this sort of contradicts SRO’s selling points about these homes.. Because one of those selling points was it’s situated on a 1 acre land. I’m not sure I understand what is the point of 1 acre of land, if most of it is slopes that’s not usable…It just doesn’t seem like it would be different from say a DH/Saratoga home that sits on a canyon for which the hills/slopes is controlled by HOA/city… In both cases, the land isn’t usable…In fact, I’d prefer if that’s the case, the land belongs to the HOA/city so that they can deal with the maintenance of it…Seems like it would be a maintenance headache, clearing brush, dealing with wildlife,etc that the homeowner has to deal with. . .

Again, I don’t get it. I assume 1 acre means 1 acre of land that I could say raise a horse on. (not that I would). . .[/quote](emphasis added)

Flu, none of SD County is “flatlands” except maybe Kearny Mesa, parts of MM and parts of Otay Mesa. Most 1/2 AC + lots in SD County are partially sloped. It is still valuable to have this land around your property, even if you don’t USE it. In many ways, it is better for the downslope portion to be indiv. owned rather than maintained by the City because you can install drains to drain your property and pool off of it if you wish. And look what happened with “publicly-maintained” McGonigle Cyn in CV?? This went on for more than 25 yrs. until it was finally successfully moved out.

See: http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/7/16/mcgonigle-canyon-illegal-alien-camp-332258

[quote-flu]I’d say places parts of Mira Mesa are a much better place to be frankly, with the total package of cost/location/convenience.[/quote]

flu, there is a BOATLOAD OF DIFFERENCE between living 6-10 feet from the next house in MM and living 35-100 feet from the next house in Sky Ranch, or ANY AREA which is zoned 3 or less units per acre. It doesn’t matter is the area between the units is brush, hedges, concrete, palms, veg. garden, orchard, ‘possum families or teeming with rattlesnakes or a combination of any of these, the units separated by 35-100 feet HAVE FAR MORE PRIVACY. IMHO, this is the bottom line.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=flu]
Well, I have visited Santee but never visited the actual model homes (no interest)..So I’ll have to take your word for it that the 1 acre is not useable on those homes..But then this sort of contradicts SRO’s selling points about these homes.. Because one of those selling points was it’s situated on a 1 acre land. I’m not sure I understand what is the point of 1 acre of land, if most of it is slopes that’s not usable…It just doesn’t seem like it would be different from say a DH/Saratoga home that sits on a canyon for which the hills/slopes is controlled by HOA/city… In both cases, the land isn’t usable…In fact, I’d prefer if that’s the case, the land belongs to the HOA/city so that they can deal with the maintenance of it…Seems like it would be a maintenance headache, clearing brush, dealing with wildlife,etc that the homeowner has to deal with. . .

Again, I don’t get it. I assume 1 acre means 1 acre of land that I could say raise a horse on. (not that I would). . .[/quote](emphasis added)

Flu, none of SD County is “flatlands” except maybe Kearny Mesa, parts of MM and parts of Otay Mesa. Most 1/2 AC + lots in SD County are partially sloped. It is still valuable to have this land around your property, even if you don’t USE it. In many ways, it is better for the downslope portion to be indiv. owned rather than maintained by the City because you can install drains to drain your property and pool off of it if you wish. And look what happened with “publicly-maintained” McGonigle Cyn in CV?? This went on for more than 25 yrs. until it was finally successfully moved out.

See: http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/7/16/mcgonigle-canyon-illegal-alien-camp-332258

[quote-flu]I’d say places parts of Mira Mesa are a much better place to be frankly, with the total package of cost/location/convenience.[/quote]

flu, there is a BOATLOAD OF DIFFERENCE between living 6-10 feet from the next house in MM and living 35-100 feet from the next house in Sky Ranch, or ANY AREA which is zoned 3 or less units per acre. It doesn’t matter is the area between the units is brush, hedges, concrete, palms, veg. garden, orchard, ‘possum families or teeming with rattlesnakes or a combination of any of these, the units separated by 35-100 feet HAVE FAR MORE PRIVACY. IMHO, this is the bottom line.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=flu]
Well, I have visited Santee but never visited the actual model homes (no interest)..So I’ll have to take your word for it that the 1 acre is not useable on those homes..But then this sort of contradicts SRO’s selling points about these homes.. Because one of those selling points was it’s situated on a 1 acre land. I’m not sure I understand what is the point of 1 acre of land, if most of it is slopes that’s not usable…It just doesn’t seem like it would be different from say a DH/Saratoga home that sits on a canyon for which the hills/slopes is controlled by HOA/city… In both cases, the land isn’t usable…In fact, I’d prefer if that’s the case, the land belongs to the HOA/city so that they can deal with the maintenance of it…Seems like it would be a maintenance headache, clearing brush, dealing with wildlife,etc that the homeowner has to deal with. . .

Again, I don’t get it. I assume 1 acre means 1 acre of land that I could say raise a horse on. (not that I would). . .[/quote](emphasis added)

Flu, none of SD County is “flatlands” except maybe Kearny Mesa, parts of MM and parts of Otay Mesa. Most 1/2 AC + lots in SD County are partially sloped. It is still valuable to have this land around your property, even if you don’t USE it. In many ways, it is better for the downslope portion to be indiv. owned rather than maintained by the City because you can install drains to drain your property and pool off of it if you wish. And look what happened with “publicly-maintained” McGonigle Cyn in CV?? This went on for more than 25 yrs. until it was finally successfully moved out.

See: http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/7/16/mcgonigle-canyon-illegal-alien-camp-332258

[quote-flu]I’d say places parts of Mira Mesa are a much better place to be frankly, with the total package of cost/location/convenience.[/quote]

flu, there is a BOATLOAD OF DIFFERENCE between living 6-10 feet from the next house in MM and living 35-100 feet from the next house in Sky Ranch, or ANY AREA which is zoned 3 or less units per acre. It doesn’t matter is the area between the units is brush, hedges, concrete, palms, veg. garden, orchard, ‘possum families or teeming with rattlesnakes or a combination of any of these, the units separated by 35-100 feet HAVE FAR MORE PRIVACY. IMHO, this is the bottom line.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
flu, there is a BOATLOAD OF DIFFERENCE between living 6-10 feet from the next house in MM and living 35-100 feet from the next house in Sky Ranch, or ANY AREA which is zoned 3 or less units per acre. It doesn’t matter is the area between the units is brush, hedges, concrete, palms, veg. garden, orchard, ‘possum families or teeming with rattlesnakes or a combination of any of these, the units separated by 35-100 feet HAVE FAR MORE PRIVACY. IMHO, this is the bottom line.[/quote]
I’m not sure if you’ve been to Sky Ranch or not but the houses are definitely not 35-100 feet apart. Like I said in my prior post, it’s more like 12-16 feet vs 6-10 feet in your average tract home areas (which includes MM).

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
flu, there is a BOATLOAD OF DIFFERENCE between living 6-10 feet from the next house in MM and living 35-100 feet from the next house in Sky Ranch, or ANY AREA which is zoned 3 or less units per acre. It doesn’t matter is the area between the units is brush, hedges, concrete, palms, veg. garden, orchard, ‘possum families or teeming with rattlesnakes or a combination of any of these, the units separated by 35-100 feet HAVE FAR MORE PRIVACY. IMHO, this is the bottom line.[/quote]
I’m not sure if you’ve been to Sky Ranch or not but the houses are definitely not 35-100 feet apart. Like I said in my prior post, it’s more like 12-16 feet vs 6-10 feet in your average tract home areas (which includes MM).

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
flu, there is a BOATLOAD OF DIFFERENCE between living 6-10 feet from the next house in MM and living 35-100 feet from the next house in Sky Ranch, or ANY AREA which is zoned 3 or less units per acre. It doesn’t matter is the area between the units is brush, hedges, concrete, palms, veg. garden, orchard, ‘possum families or teeming with rattlesnakes or a combination of any of these, the units separated by 35-100 feet HAVE FAR MORE PRIVACY. IMHO, this is the bottom line.[/quote]
I’m not sure if you’ve been to Sky Ranch or not but the houses are definitely not 35-100 feet apart. Like I said in my prior post, it’s more like 12-16 feet vs 6-10 feet in your average tract home areas (which includes MM).

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
flu, there is a BOATLOAD OF DIFFERENCE between living 6-10 feet from the next house in MM and living 35-100 feet from the next house in Sky Ranch, or ANY AREA which is zoned 3 or less units per acre. It doesn’t matter is the area between the units is brush, hedges, concrete, palms, veg. garden, orchard, ‘possum families or teeming with rattlesnakes or a combination of any of these, the units separated by 35-100 feet HAVE FAR MORE PRIVACY. IMHO, this is the bottom line.[/quote]
I’m not sure if you’ve been to Sky Ranch or not but the houses are definitely not 35-100 feet apart. Like I said in my prior post, it’s more like 12-16 feet vs 6-10 feet in your average tract home areas (which includes MM).

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
flu, there is a BOATLOAD OF DIFFERENCE between living 6-10 feet from the next house in MM and living 35-100 feet from the next house in Sky Ranch, or ANY AREA which is zoned 3 or less units per acre. It doesn’t matter is the area between the units is brush, hedges, concrete, palms, veg. garden, orchard, ‘possum families or teeming with rattlesnakes or a combination of any of these, the units separated by 35-100 feet HAVE FAR MORE PRIVACY. IMHO, this is the bottom line.[/quote]
I’m not sure if you’ve been to Sky Ranch or not but the houses are definitely not 35-100 feet apart. Like I said in my prior post, it’s more like 12-16 feet vs 6-10 feet in your average tract home areas (which includes MM).

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]I’m not sure if you’ve been to Sky Ranch or not but the houses are definitely not 35-100 feet apart. Like I said in my prior post, it’s more like 12-16 feet vs 6-10 feet in your average tract home areas (which includes MM).[/quote]

No, I haven’t been there, AN. I’m thinking of the typical 1/2 AC lot in Bonita which puts most of the tract houses 35-50 ft apart. If these lots are 1 AC, how wide are they?? How much of the lot is slope and how much is usable? In Bonita, a typical 1/2 AC lot would be 66% to 100% usable, depending on the tract (avg. of 75% usable).

12-16 feet apart sounds like houses on 7500 – 10,000 sf lots in my (dtn. Chula) neighborhood.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]I’m not sure if you’ve been to Sky Ranch or not but the houses are definitely not 35-100 feet apart. Like I said in my prior post, it’s more like 12-16 feet vs 6-10 feet in your average tract home areas (which includes MM).[/quote]

No, I haven’t been there, AN. I’m thinking of the typical 1/2 AC lot in Bonita which puts most of the tract houses 35-50 ft apart. If these lots are 1 AC, how wide are they?? How much of the lot is slope and how much is usable? In Bonita, a typical 1/2 AC lot would be 66% to 100% usable, depending on the tract (avg. of 75% usable).

12-16 feet apart sounds like houses on 7500 – 10,000 sf lots in my (dtn. Chula) neighborhood.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]I’m not sure if you’ve been to Sky Ranch or not but the houses are definitely not 35-100 feet apart. Like I said in my prior post, it’s more like 12-16 feet vs 6-10 feet in your average tract home areas (which includes MM).[/quote]

No, I haven’t been there, AN. I’m thinking of the typical 1/2 AC lot in Bonita which puts most of the tract houses 35-50 ft apart. If these lots are 1 AC, how wide are they?? How much of the lot is slope and how much is usable? In Bonita, a typical 1/2 AC lot would be 66% to 100% usable, depending on the tract (avg. of 75% usable).

12-16 feet apart sounds like houses on 7500 – 10,000 sf lots in my (dtn. Chula) neighborhood.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]I’m not sure if you’ve been to Sky Ranch or not but the houses are definitely not 35-100 feet apart. Like I said in my prior post, it’s more like 12-16 feet vs 6-10 feet in your average tract home areas (which includes MM).[/quote]

No, I haven’t been there, AN. I’m thinking of the typical 1/2 AC lot in Bonita which puts most of the tract houses 35-50 ft apart. If these lots are 1 AC, how wide are they?? How much of the lot is slope and how much is usable? In Bonita, a typical 1/2 AC lot would be 66% to 100% usable, depending on the tract (avg. of 75% usable).

12-16 feet apart sounds like houses on 7500 – 10,000 sf lots in my (dtn. Chula) neighborhood.

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