Skyranch in Santee

[PKMAN]

[quote=kcal09]Why is Coronado better than any other place?[/quote]

I just like it. If I was to live there (somewhere central), I don’t think I’d want to go anywhere else on weekend, or drive. I’d just walk to shops, restaurants, beach and other places. The cool ocean breeze makes even the hottest summer days very comfortable.

One thing about Santee is that it’s damn hot. Because it situated in a valley, temperature here is hotter than MM, RB or most other middle-class residential communities. Another good thing about buying a new home is that it comes with energy-efficient windows (dual-pane insulated) and A/C. It makes living in Santee during the summer much more comfortable and cost-effective.

[Coronita]

[quote=SkyRanchOwner]I wanted to respond to some of your comments…

…….

As far as the Las Colinas Women’s Dentention Center/Jail. That was a concern of ours too, yet it is a women’s only facility. Plus, there are current lawsuits filed by the City of Santee and the Developers of Riverwalk to have the jail relocated. There has been recent talk of the proposal to expand and update the facility, yet the Santee community is pushing to have it relocated. This is a facility that is left over from the 60’s. Here is a link for more info:
http://nojailexpansion.com/

Also read here:
http://www.ci.santee.ca.us/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=876

As another note, there is a small Farmer’s market held off of Mission Gorge near Magnolia where you can get fresh fruit, vegetables and other items:
http://mysandiego411.com/farmersmarket/santee.html

The issue of buying a new home is big to me because all the plumbing, electrical, framing, etc. is brand new. There are no issues with having to remodel, fix plumbing or electrical problems, etc. I walk in, paint, plant my furniture, and have time to do other things.

We figured out of all the areas, the pricing here seems the most reasonable without having to have a major commute like living in San Marcos or Chula Vista. Lennar has discounting the prices to match the current market, so you are less likely to have much depreciation. Check trulia’s real estate statistics on your own. Also, Sky Ranch is a unique community. Once it builds and sells out, it will be hard to find a house for sale.
http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Santee-California/

I’ve gone through many of the thoughts being discussed here, and we decided to buy. We have been even more pleased after our purchase here in Sky Ranch.[/quote]

I guess this didn’t go the way planned…

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

Jail land to be acquired by eminent domain
Legal action OK’d for expanded Las Colinas facility

By Michele Clock, UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

Friday, April 30, 2010 at 12:04 a.m.

SANTEE — An effort to replace the region’s only all-female jail — an endeavor that has drawn three lawsuits — has become even more complicated.

County supervisors this week voted 4-1, with Dianne Jacob dissenting, to use eminent domain to take control of about 15 acres in Santee needed for the new Las Colinas Detention Facility. Although the county currently owns the land, it is trying to seize the development rights on the acreage from Minneapolis-based developer Ryan Cos., which is developing a mixed-use project on more than 100 acres in the area.

County officials said they have tried to negotiate with Ryan. Now they plan to proceed with the new legal action in San Diego Superior Court in the coming weeks.

The county wants to have a new, 1,216-bed jail operating in late 2014 or early 2015. The 45-acre facility would replace the current 16-acre grounds, which date to the 1960s.

“The county must acquire Ryan’s development rights so the project can proceed,” April Heinze, the county’s director of general services, told the supervisors at a meeting Tuesday.

Ryan officials declined to comment, but an attorney representing the company argued at the meeting that the county had not met the legal requirements necessary to move ahead with eminent domain.

Replacement of Las Colinas is at the top of the county’s infrastructure to-do list. Officials have said the new jail is badly needed to relieve overcrowding, and numerous county grand juries have called for its replacement.

“I think I’ve been called at least three or four times to the grand jury to talk about this,” Supervisor Ron Roberts said at Tuesday’s meeting. “I would like to see this move.”

Not everyone wants to see a new jail. Residents and Santee city officials have fought strenuously against the expansion in recent years, arguing that the East County suburb is no longer an appropriate location for a jail considering the city’s growth and development. They have said a new facility would undermine the city’s economic progress and lower property values.

Both the city of Santee and Ryan Cos. filed lawsuits last year alleging that the county violated state environmental law by not adequately analyzing the project’s effects before approving the plans in 2009. The cases have been consolidated and are working their way through San Diego Superior Court, said Deborah McCarthy, chief deputy county counsel.

Santee is also appealing a decision on a separate case in which it challenged the county’s handling of a $100 million state grant to replace the jail. That grant and county funds are expected to cover the cost of the new facility.

[Coronita]

[quote=SkyRanchOwner]I wanted to respond to some of your comments…

…….

As far as the Las Colinas Women’s Dentention Center/Jail. That was a concern of ours too, yet it is a women’s only facility. Plus, there are current lawsuits filed by the City of Santee and the Developers of Riverwalk to have the jail relocated. There has been recent talk of the proposal to expand and update the facility, yet the Santee community is pushing to have it relocated. This is a facility that is left over from the 60’s. Here is a link for more info:
http://nojailexpansion.com/

Also read here:
http://www.ci.santee.ca.us/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=876

As another note, there is a small Farmer’s market held off of Mission Gorge near Magnolia where you can get fresh fruit, vegetables and other items:
http://mysandiego411.com/farmersmarket/santee.html

The issue of buying a new home is big to me because all the plumbing, electrical, framing, etc. is brand new. There are no issues with having to remodel, fix plumbing or electrical problems, etc. I walk in, paint, plant my furniture, and have time to do other things.

We figured out of all the areas, the pricing here seems the most reasonable without having to have a major commute like living in San Marcos or Chula Vista. Lennar has discounting the prices to match the current market, so you are less likely to have much depreciation. Check trulia’s real estate statistics on your own. Also, Sky Ranch is a unique community. Once it builds and sells out, it will be hard to find a house for sale.
http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Santee-California/

I’ve gone through many of the thoughts being discussed here, and we decided to buy. We have been even more pleased after our purchase here in Sky Ranch.[/quote]

I guess this didn’t go the way planned…

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

Jail land to be acquired by eminent domain
Legal action OK’d for expanded Las Colinas facility

By Michele Clock, UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

Friday, April 30, 2010 at 12:04 a.m.

SANTEE — An effort to replace the region’s only all-female jail — an endeavor that has drawn three lawsuits — has become even more complicated.

County supervisors this week voted 4-1, with Dianne Jacob dissenting, to use eminent domain to take control of about 15 acres in Santee needed for the new Las Colinas Detention Facility. Although the county currently owns the land, it is trying to seize the development rights on the acreage from Minneapolis-based developer Ryan Cos., which is developing a mixed-use project on more than 100 acres in the area.

County officials said they have tried to negotiate with Ryan. Now they plan to proceed with the new legal action in San Diego Superior Court in the coming weeks.

The county wants to have a new, 1,216-bed jail operating in late 2014 or early 2015. The 45-acre facility would replace the current 16-acre grounds, which date to the 1960s.

“The county must acquire Ryan’s development rights so the project can proceed,” April Heinze, the county’s director of general services, told the supervisors at a meeting Tuesday.

Ryan officials declined to comment, but an attorney representing the company argued at the meeting that the county had not met the legal requirements necessary to move ahead with eminent domain.

Replacement of Las Colinas is at the top of the county’s infrastructure to-do list. Officials have said the new jail is badly needed to relieve overcrowding, and numerous county grand juries have called for its replacement.

“I think I’ve been called at least three or four times to the grand jury to talk about this,” Supervisor Ron Roberts said at Tuesday’s meeting. “I would like to see this move.”

Not everyone wants to see a new jail. Residents and Santee city officials have fought strenuously against the expansion in recent years, arguing that the East County suburb is no longer an appropriate location for a jail considering the city’s growth and development. They have said a new facility would undermine the city’s economic progress and lower property values.

Both the city of Santee and Ryan Cos. filed lawsuits last year alleging that the county violated state environmental law by not adequately analyzing the project’s effects before approving the plans in 2009. The cases have been consolidated and are working their way through San Diego Superior Court, said Deborah McCarthy, chief deputy county counsel.

Santee is also appealing a decision on a separate case in which it challenged the county’s handling of a $100 million state grant to replace the jail. That grant and county funds are expected to cover the cost of the new facility.

[Coronita]

[quote=SkyRanchOwner]I wanted to respond to some of your comments…

…….

As far as the Las Colinas Women’s Dentention Center/Jail. That was a concern of ours too, yet it is a women’s only facility. Plus, there are current lawsuits filed by the City of Santee and the Developers of Riverwalk to have the jail relocated. There has been recent talk of the proposal to expand and update the facility, yet the Santee community is pushing to have it relocated. This is a facility that is left over from the 60’s. Here is a link for more info:
http://nojailexpansion.com/

Also read here:
http://www.ci.santee.ca.us/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=876

As another note, there is a small Farmer’s market held off of Mission Gorge near Magnolia where you can get fresh fruit, vegetables and other items:
http://mysandiego411.com/farmersmarket/santee.html

The issue of buying a new home is big to me because all the plumbing, electrical, framing, etc. is brand new. There are no issues with having to remodel, fix plumbing or electrical problems, etc. I walk in, paint, plant my furniture, and have time to do other things.

We figured out of all the areas, the pricing here seems the most reasonable without having to have a major commute like living in San Marcos or Chula Vista. Lennar has discounting the prices to match the current market, so you are less likely to have much depreciation. Check trulia’s real estate statistics on your own. Also, Sky Ranch is a unique community. Once it builds and sells out, it will be hard to find a house for sale.
http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Santee-California/

I’ve gone through many of the thoughts being discussed here, and we decided to buy. We have been even more pleased after our purchase here in Sky Ranch.[/quote]

I guess this didn’t go the way planned…

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

Jail land to be acquired by eminent domain
Legal action OK’d for expanded Las Colinas facility

By Michele Clock, UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

Friday, April 30, 2010 at 12:04 a.m.

SANTEE — An effort to replace the region’s only all-female jail — an endeavor that has drawn three lawsuits — has become even more complicated.

County supervisors this week voted 4-1, with Dianne Jacob dissenting, to use eminent domain to take control of about 15 acres in Santee needed for the new Las Colinas Detention Facility. Although the county currently owns the land, it is trying to seize the development rights on the acreage from Minneapolis-based developer Ryan Cos., which is developing a mixed-use project on more than 100 acres in the area.

County officials said they have tried to negotiate with Ryan. Now they plan to proceed with the new legal action in San Diego Superior Court in the coming weeks.

The county wants to have a new, 1,216-bed jail operating in late 2014 or early 2015. The 45-acre facility would replace the current 16-acre grounds, which date to the 1960s.

“The county must acquire Ryan’s development rights so the project can proceed,” April Heinze, the county’s director of general services, told the supervisors at a meeting Tuesday.

Ryan officials declined to comment, but an attorney representing the company argued at the meeting that the county had not met the legal requirements necessary to move ahead with eminent domain.

Replacement of Las Colinas is at the top of the county’s infrastructure to-do list. Officials have said the new jail is badly needed to relieve overcrowding, and numerous county grand juries have called for its replacement.

“I think I’ve been called at least three or four times to the grand jury to talk about this,” Supervisor Ron Roberts said at Tuesday’s meeting. “I would like to see this move.”

Not everyone wants to see a new jail. Residents and Santee city officials have fought strenuously against the expansion in recent years, arguing that the East County suburb is no longer an appropriate location for a jail considering the city’s growth and development. They have said a new facility would undermine the city’s economic progress and lower property values.

Both the city of Santee and Ryan Cos. filed lawsuits last year alleging that the county violated state environmental law by not adequately analyzing the project’s effects before approving the plans in 2009. The cases have been consolidated and are working their way through San Diego Superior Court, said Deborah McCarthy, chief deputy county counsel.

Santee is also appealing a decision on a separate case in which it challenged the county’s handling of a $100 million state grant to replace the jail. That grant and county funds are expected to cover the cost of the new facility.

[Coronita]

[quote=SkyRanchOwner]I wanted to respond to some of your comments…

…….

As far as the Las Colinas Women’s Dentention Center/Jail. That was a concern of ours too, yet it is a women’s only facility. Plus, there are current lawsuits filed by the City of Santee and the Developers of Riverwalk to have the jail relocated. There has been recent talk of the proposal to expand and update the facility, yet the Santee community is pushing to have it relocated. This is a facility that is left over from the 60’s. Here is a link for more info:
http://nojailexpansion.com/

Also read here:
http://www.ci.santee.ca.us/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=876

As another note, there is a small Farmer’s market held off of Mission Gorge near Magnolia where you can get fresh fruit, vegetables and other items:
http://mysandiego411.com/farmersmarket/santee.html

The issue of buying a new home is big to me because all the plumbing, electrical, framing, etc. is brand new. There are no issues with having to remodel, fix plumbing or electrical problems, etc. I walk in, paint, plant my furniture, and have time to do other things.

We figured out of all the areas, the pricing here seems the most reasonable without having to have a major commute like living in San Marcos or Chula Vista. Lennar has discounting the prices to match the current market, so you are less likely to have much depreciation. Check trulia’s real estate statistics on your own. Also, Sky Ranch is a unique community. Once it builds and sells out, it will be hard to find a house for sale.
http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Santee-California/

I’ve gone through many of the thoughts being discussed here, and we decided to buy. We have been even more pleased after our purchase here in Sky Ranch.[/quote]

I guess this didn’t go the way planned…

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

Jail land to be acquired by eminent domain
Legal action OK’d for expanded Las Colinas facility

By Michele Clock, UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

Friday, April 30, 2010 at 12:04 a.m.

SANTEE — An effort to replace the region’s only all-female jail — an endeavor that has drawn three lawsuits — has become even more complicated.

County supervisors this week voted 4-1, with Dianne Jacob dissenting, to use eminent domain to take control of about 15 acres in Santee needed for the new Las Colinas Detention Facility. Although the county currently owns the land, it is trying to seize the development rights on the acreage from Minneapolis-based developer Ryan Cos., which is developing a mixed-use project on more than 100 acres in the area.

County officials said they have tried to negotiate with Ryan. Now they plan to proceed with the new legal action in San Diego Superior Court in the coming weeks.

The county wants to have a new, 1,216-bed jail operating in late 2014 or early 2015. The 45-acre facility would replace the current 16-acre grounds, which date to the 1960s.

“The county must acquire Ryan’s development rights so the project can proceed,” April Heinze, the county’s director of general services, told the supervisors at a meeting Tuesday.

Ryan officials declined to comment, but an attorney representing the company argued at the meeting that the county had not met the legal requirements necessary to move ahead with eminent domain.

Replacement of Las Colinas is at the top of the county’s infrastructure to-do list. Officials have said the new jail is badly needed to relieve overcrowding, and numerous county grand juries have called for its replacement.

“I think I’ve been called at least three or four times to the grand jury to talk about this,” Supervisor Ron Roberts said at Tuesday’s meeting. “I would like to see this move.”

Not everyone wants to see a new jail. Residents and Santee city officials have fought strenuously against the expansion in recent years, arguing that the East County suburb is no longer an appropriate location for a jail considering the city’s growth and development. They have said a new facility would undermine the city’s economic progress and lower property values.

Both the city of Santee and Ryan Cos. filed lawsuits last year alleging that the county violated state environmental law by not adequately analyzing the project’s effects before approving the plans in 2009. The cases have been consolidated and are working their way through San Diego Superior Court, said Deborah McCarthy, chief deputy county counsel.

Santee is also appealing a decision on a separate case in which it challenged the county’s handling of a $100 million state grant to replace the jail. That grant and county funds are expected to cover the cost of the new facility.

[Coronita]

[quote=SkyRanchOwner]I wanted to respond to some of your comments…

…….

As far as the Las Colinas Women’s Dentention Center/Jail. That was a concern of ours too, yet it is a women’s only facility. Plus, there are current lawsuits filed by the City of Santee and the Developers of Riverwalk to have the jail relocated. There has been recent talk of the proposal to expand and update the facility, yet the Santee community is pushing to have it relocated. This is a facility that is left over from the 60’s. Here is a link for more info:
http://nojailexpansion.com/

Also read here:
http://www.ci.santee.ca.us/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=876

As another note, there is a small Farmer’s market held off of Mission Gorge near Magnolia where you can get fresh fruit, vegetables and other items:
http://mysandiego411.com/farmersmarket/santee.html

The issue of buying a new home is big to me because all the plumbing, electrical, framing, etc. is brand new. There are no issues with having to remodel, fix plumbing or electrical problems, etc. I walk in, paint, plant my furniture, and have time to do other things.

We figured out of all the areas, the pricing here seems the most reasonable without having to have a major commute like living in San Marcos or Chula Vista. Lennar has discounting the prices to match the current market, so you are less likely to have much depreciation. Check trulia’s real estate statistics on your own. Also, Sky Ranch is a unique community. Once it builds and sells out, it will be hard to find a house for sale.
http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Santee-California/

I’ve gone through many of the thoughts being discussed here, and we decided to buy. We have been even more pleased after our purchase here in Sky Ranch.[/quote]

I guess this didn’t go the way planned…

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

Jail land to be acquired by eminent domain
Legal action OK’d for expanded Las Colinas facility

By Michele Clock, UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

Friday, April 30, 2010 at 12:04 a.m.

SANTEE — An effort to replace the region’s only all-female jail — an endeavor that has drawn three lawsuits — has become even more complicated.

County supervisors this week voted 4-1, with Dianne Jacob dissenting, to use eminent domain to take control of about 15 acres in Santee needed for the new Las Colinas Detention Facility. Although the county currently owns the land, it is trying to seize the development rights on the acreage from Minneapolis-based developer Ryan Cos., which is developing a mixed-use project on more than 100 acres in the area.

County officials said they have tried to negotiate with Ryan. Now they plan to proceed with the new legal action in San Diego Superior Court in the coming weeks.

The county wants to have a new, 1,216-bed jail operating in late 2014 or early 2015. The 45-acre facility would replace the current 16-acre grounds, which date to the 1960s.

“The county must acquire Ryan’s development rights so the project can proceed,” April Heinze, the county’s director of general services, told the supervisors at a meeting Tuesday.

Ryan officials declined to comment, but an attorney representing the company argued at the meeting that the county had not met the legal requirements necessary to move ahead with eminent domain.

Replacement of Las Colinas is at the top of the county’s infrastructure to-do list. Officials have said the new jail is badly needed to relieve overcrowding, and numerous county grand juries have called for its replacement.

“I think I’ve been called at least three or four times to the grand jury to talk about this,” Supervisor Ron Roberts said at Tuesday’s meeting. “I would like to see this move.”

Not everyone wants to see a new jail. Residents and Santee city officials have fought strenuously against the expansion in recent years, arguing that the East County suburb is no longer an appropriate location for a jail considering the city’s growth and development. They have said a new facility would undermine the city’s economic progress and lower property values.

Both the city of Santee and Ryan Cos. filed lawsuits last year alleging that the county violated state environmental law by not adequately analyzing the project’s effects before approving the plans in 2009. The cases have been consolidated and are working their way through San Diego Superior Court, said Deborah McCarthy, chief deputy county counsel.

Santee is also appealing a decision on a separate case in which it challenged the county’s handling of a $100 million state grant to replace the jail. That grant and county funds are expected to cover the cost of the new facility.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=UCGal]Your kidding about them moving Las Colinas, right?

NO neighborhood wants a prison in their backyard. It’s already in Santee – and it seems extremely unlikely that it will be moved to someone elses backyard. NIMBYism will prevent it. Where are they going to move it? It has to be central enough to get to the 3 courthouses in the county (downtown San Diego, El Cajon, North County). Santee fits that bill.

I think the people of Santee need to be comfortable with Las Colinas – they’re going to coexist as long as we need a womens detention center.

Santee is nice enough. I’m not a Santee basher. Las Colinas wouldn’t be a deciding factor if I were looking there. One of my extended family is looking at REOs out there.[/quote]

You are correct, UCGal, IMO the law is on the side of the County here.

See: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

(I noticed Flu’s post of last night [above] referring to the same article in this link after I posted.)

Santee has historically been one of the absolute CHEAPEST places to buy raw land in the entire county, due to a variety of factors (heat, air pollution, lack of zoning, etc). In short, it fails the “location, location, location” test.

No doubt Lennar purchased the land to develop Sky Ranch dirt cheap (esp. since they had to cut off the top of one of Santee’s surrounding mtns (which sock it in with air pollution). There are absolutely no sales comparables in Santee to support Lennar’s purported asking prices here. They have obviously over-developed for the area. The $3,300+ a month that SkyRanchOwner posted is an ASTRONOMICAL monthly cash outlay to live in SANTEE!! SkyRanchOwner may have a large house, but IMHO a $600K+ purchase price will buy a VERY well-located property with LAND (1/4 AC – 1 AC) in SD County. Well-located LAND is generally MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY lot in a *NEW* subdivision. With a $323 mo. HOA fee, SkyRanchOwner could purchase A LOT of home improvement products EACH MONTH to fix up a large cosmetic fixer on LAND and she/he would be giving back to THEMSELVES every month in the form of sweat equity instead of an “HOA.”

No offense to any Piggs here but even though many businesses have moved into Santee in the last 20 years, its topographical, geographical and zoning issues render it as having what we refer to in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”

[bearishgurl]

[quote=UCGal]Your kidding about them moving Las Colinas, right?

NO neighborhood wants a prison in their backyard. It’s already in Santee – and it seems extremely unlikely that it will be moved to someone elses backyard. NIMBYism will prevent it. Where are they going to move it? It has to be central enough to get to the 3 courthouses in the county (downtown San Diego, El Cajon, North County). Santee fits that bill.

I think the people of Santee need to be comfortable with Las Colinas – they’re going to coexist as long as we need a womens detention center.

Santee is nice enough. I’m not a Santee basher. Las Colinas wouldn’t be a deciding factor if I were looking there. One of my extended family is looking at REOs out there.[/quote]

You are correct, UCGal, IMO the law is on the side of the County here.

See: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

(I noticed Flu’s post of last night [above] referring to the same article in this link after I posted.)

Santee has historically been one of the absolute CHEAPEST places to buy raw land in the entire county, due to a variety of factors (heat, air pollution, lack of zoning, etc). In short, it fails the “location, location, location” test.

No doubt Lennar purchased the land to develop Sky Ranch dirt cheap (esp. since they had to cut off the top of one of Santee’s surrounding mtns (which sock it in with air pollution). There are absolutely no sales comparables in Santee to support Lennar’s purported asking prices here. They have obviously over-developed for the area. The $3,300+ a month that SkyRanchOwner posted is an ASTRONOMICAL monthly cash outlay to live in SANTEE!! SkyRanchOwner may have a large house, but IMHO a $600K+ purchase price will buy a VERY well-located property with LAND (1/4 AC – 1 AC) in SD County. Well-located LAND is generally MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY lot in a *NEW* subdivision. With a $323 mo. HOA fee, SkyRanchOwner could purchase A LOT of home improvement products EACH MONTH to fix up a large cosmetic fixer on LAND and she/he would be giving back to THEMSELVES every month in the form of sweat equity instead of an “HOA.”

No offense to any Piggs here but even though many businesses have moved into Santee in the last 20 years, its topographical, geographical and zoning issues render it as having what we refer to in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”

[bearishgurl]

[quote=UCGal]Your kidding about them moving Las Colinas, right?

NO neighborhood wants a prison in their backyard. It’s already in Santee – and it seems extremely unlikely that it will be moved to someone elses backyard. NIMBYism will prevent it. Where are they going to move it? It has to be central enough to get to the 3 courthouses in the county (downtown San Diego, El Cajon, North County). Santee fits that bill.

I think the people of Santee need to be comfortable with Las Colinas – they’re going to coexist as long as we need a womens detention center.

Santee is nice enough. I’m not a Santee basher. Las Colinas wouldn’t be a deciding factor if I were looking there. One of my extended family is looking at REOs out there.[/quote]

You are correct, UCGal, IMO the law is on the side of the County here.

See: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

(I noticed Flu’s post of last night [above] referring to the same article in this link after I posted.)

Santee has historically been one of the absolute CHEAPEST places to buy raw land in the entire county, due to a variety of factors (heat, air pollution, lack of zoning, etc). In short, it fails the “location, location, location” test.

No doubt Lennar purchased the land to develop Sky Ranch dirt cheap (esp. since they had to cut off the top of one of Santee’s surrounding mtns (which sock it in with air pollution). There are absolutely no sales comparables in Santee to support Lennar’s purported asking prices here. They have obviously over-developed for the area. The $3,300+ a month that SkyRanchOwner posted is an ASTRONOMICAL monthly cash outlay to live in SANTEE!! SkyRanchOwner may have a large house, but IMHO a $600K+ purchase price will buy a VERY well-located property with LAND (1/4 AC – 1 AC) in SD County. Well-located LAND is generally MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY lot in a *NEW* subdivision. With a $323 mo. HOA fee, SkyRanchOwner could purchase A LOT of home improvement products EACH MONTH to fix up a large cosmetic fixer on LAND and she/he would be giving back to THEMSELVES every month in the form of sweat equity instead of an “HOA.”

No offense to any Piggs here but even though many businesses have moved into Santee in the last 20 years, its topographical, geographical and zoning issues render it as having what we refer to in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”

[bearishgurl]

[quote=UCGal]Your kidding about them moving Las Colinas, right?

NO neighborhood wants a prison in their backyard. It’s already in Santee – and it seems extremely unlikely that it will be moved to someone elses backyard. NIMBYism will prevent it. Where are they going to move it? It has to be central enough to get to the 3 courthouses in the county (downtown San Diego, El Cajon, North County). Santee fits that bill.

I think the people of Santee need to be comfortable with Las Colinas – they’re going to coexist as long as we need a womens detention center.

Santee is nice enough. I’m not a Santee basher. Las Colinas wouldn’t be a deciding factor if I were looking there. One of my extended family is looking at REOs out there.[/quote]

You are correct, UCGal, IMO the law is on the side of the County here.

See: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

(I noticed Flu’s post of last night [above] referring to the same article in this link after I posted.)

Santee has historically been one of the absolute CHEAPEST places to buy raw land in the entire county, due to a variety of factors (heat, air pollution, lack of zoning, etc). In short, it fails the “location, location, location” test.

No doubt Lennar purchased the land to develop Sky Ranch dirt cheap (esp. since they had to cut off the top of one of Santee’s surrounding mtns (which sock it in with air pollution). There are absolutely no sales comparables in Santee to support Lennar’s purported asking prices here. They have obviously over-developed for the area. The $3,300+ a month that SkyRanchOwner posted is an ASTRONOMICAL monthly cash outlay to live in SANTEE!! SkyRanchOwner may have a large house, but IMHO a $600K+ purchase price will buy a VERY well-located property with LAND (1/4 AC – 1 AC) in SD County. Well-located LAND is generally MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY lot in a *NEW* subdivision. With a $323 mo. HOA fee, SkyRanchOwner could purchase A LOT of home improvement products EACH MONTH to fix up a large cosmetic fixer on LAND and she/he would be giving back to THEMSELVES every month in the form of sweat equity instead of an “HOA.”

No offense to any Piggs here but even though many businesses have moved into Santee in the last 20 years, its topographical, geographical and zoning issues render it as having what we refer to in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”

[bearishgurl]

[quote=UCGal]Your kidding about them moving Las Colinas, right?

NO neighborhood wants a prison in their backyard. It’s already in Santee – and it seems extremely unlikely that it will be moved to someone elses backyard. NIMBYism will prevent it. Where are they going to move it? It has to be central enough to get to the 3 courthouses in the county (downtown San Diego, El Cajon, North County). Santee fits that bill.

I think the people of Santee need to be comfortable with Las Colinas – they’re going to coexist as long as we need a womens detention center.

Santee is nice enough. I’m not a Santee basher. Las Colinas wouldn’t be a deciding factor if I were looking there. One of my extended family is looking at REOs out there.[/quote]

You are correct, UCGal, IMO the law is on the side of the County here.

See: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

(I noticed Flu’s post of last night [above] referring to the same article in this link after I posted.)

Santee has historically been one of the absolute CHEAPEST places to buy raw land in the entire county, due to a variety of factors (heat, air pollution, lack of zoning, etc). In short, it fails the “location, location, location” test.

No doubt Lennar purchased the land to develop Sky Ranch dirt cheap (esp. since they had to cut off the top of one of Santee’s surrounding mtns (which sock it in with air pollution). There are absolutely no sales comparables in Santee to support Lennar’s purported asking prices here. They have obviously over-developed for the area. The $3,300+ a month that SkyRanchOwner posted is an ASTRONOMICAL monthly cash outlay to live in SANTEE!! SkyRanchOwner may have a large house, but IMHO a $600K+ purchase price will buy a VERY well-located property with LAND (1/4 AC – 1 AC) in SD County. Well-located LAND is generally MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY lot in a *NEW* subdivision. With a $323 mo. HOA fee, SkyRanchOwner could purchase A LOT of home improvement products EACH MONTH to fix up a large cosmetic fixer on LAND and she/he would be giving back to THEMSELVES every month in the form of sweat equity instead of an “HOA.”

No offense to any Piggs here but even though many businesses have moved into Santee in the last 20 years, its topographical, geographical and zoning issues render it as having what we refer to in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”

[kcal09]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=UCGal]Your kidding about them moving Las Colinas, right?

NO neighborhood wants a prison in their backyard. It’s already in Santee – and it seems extremely unlikely that it will be moved to someone elses backyard. NIMBYism will prevent it. Where are they going to move it? It has to be central enough to get to the 3 courthouses in the county (downtown San Diego, El Cajon, North County). Santee fits that bill.

I think the people of Santee need to be comfortable with Las Colinas – they’re going to coexist as long as we need a womens detention center.

Santee is nice enough. I’m not a Santee basher. Las Colinas wouldn’t be a deciding factor if I were looking there. One of my extended family is looking at REOs out there.[/quote]

You are correct, UCGal, IMO the law is on the side of the County here.

See: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

(I noticed Flu’s post of last night [above] referring to the same article in this link after I posted.)

Santee has historically been one of the absolute CHEAPEST places to buy raw land in the entire county, due to a variety of factors (heat, air pollution, lack of zoning, etc). In short, it fails the “location, location, location” test.

No doubt Lennar purchased the land to develop Sky Ranch dirt cheap (esp. since they had to cut off the top of one of Santee’s surrounding mtns (which sock it in with air pollution). There are absolutely no sales comparables in Santee to support Lennar’s purported asking prices here. They have obviously over-developed for the area. The $3,300+ a month that SkyRanchOwner posted is an ASTRONOMICAL monthly cash outlay to live in SANTEE!! SkyRanchOwner may have a large house, but IMHO a $600K+ purchase price will buy a VERY well-located property with LAND (1/4 AC – 1 AC) in SD County. Well-located LAND is generally MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY lot in a *NEW* subdivision. With a $323 mo. HOA fee, SkyRanchOwner could purchase A LOT of home improvement products EACH MONTH to fix up a large cosmetic fixer on LAND and she/he would be giving back to THEMSELVES every month in the form of sweat equity instead of an “HOA.”

No offense to any Piggs here but even though many businesses have moved into Santee in the last 20 years, its topographical, geographical and zoning issues render it as having what we refer to in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”[/quote]

I think you are too critical towards Santee. It has turned around in the last few years with many new businesses and updated infrastructure. Granted, “La Jolla” of the east county may be a few more years away but compared to other cities in the east county Santee is more attractive.

Skyranch owners have all been quite happy (just go back and read some of their comments).

[kcal09]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=UCGal]Your kidding about them moving Las Colinas, right?

NO neighborhood wants a prison in their backyard. It’s already in Santee – and it seems extremely unlikely that it will be moved to someone elses backyard. NIMBYism will prevent it. Where are they going to move it? It has to be central enough to get to the 3 courthouses in the county (downtown San Diego, El Cajon, North County). Santee fits that bill.

I think the people of Santee need to be comfortable with Las Colinas – they’re going to coexist as long as we need a womens detention center.

Santee is nice enough. I’m not a Santee basher. Las Colinas wouldn’t be a deciding factor if I were looking there. One of my extended family is looking at REOs out there.[/quote]

You are correct, UCGal, IMO the law is on the side of the County here.

See: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

(I noticed Flu’s post of last night [above] referring to the same article in this link after I posted.)

Santee has historically been one of the absolute CHEAPEST places to buy raw land in the entire county, due to a variety of factors (heat, air pollution, lack of zoning, etc). In short, it fails the “location, location, location” test.

No doubt Lennar purchased the land to develop Sky Ranch dirt cheap (esp. since they had to cut off the top of one of Santee’s surrounding mtns (which sock it in with air pollution). There are absolutely no sales comparables in Santee to support Lennar’s purported asking prices here. They have obviously over-developed for the area. The $3,300+ a month that SkyRanchOwner posted is an ASTRONOMICAL monthly cash outlay to live in SANTEE!! SkyRanchOwner may have a large house, but IMHO a $600K+ purchase price will buy a VERY well-located property with LAND (1/4 AC – 1 AC) in SD County. Well-located LAND is generally MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY lot in a *NEW* subdivision. With a $323 mo. HOA fee, SkyRanchOwner could purchase A LOT of home improvement products EACH MONTH to fix up a large cosmetic fixer on LAND and she/he would be giving back to THEMSELVES every month in the form of sweat equity instead of an “HOA.”

No offense to any Piggs here but even though many businesses have moved into Santee in the last 20 years, its topographical, geographical and zoning issues render it as having what we refer to in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”[/quote]

I think you are too critical towards Santee. It has turned around in the last few years with many new businesses and updated infrastructure. Granted, “La Jolla” of the east county may be a few more years away but compared to other cities in the east county Santee is more attractive.

Skyranch owners have all been quite happy (just go back and read some of their comments).

[kcal09]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=UCGal]Your kidding about them moving Las Colinas, right?

NO neighborhood wants a prison in their backyard. It’s already in Santee – and it seems extremely unlikely that it will be moved to someone elses backyard. NIMBYism will prevent it. Where are they going to move it? It has to be central enough to get to the 3 courthouses in the county (downtown San Diego, El Cajon, North County). Santee fits that bill.

I think the people of Santee need to be comfortable with Las Colinas – they’re going to coexist as long as we need a womens detention center.

Santee is nice enough. I’m not a Santee basher. Las Colinas wouldn’t be a deciding factor if I were looking there. One of my extended family is looking at REOs out there.[/quote]

You are correct, UCGal, IMO the law is on the side of the County here.

See: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

(I noticed Flu’s post of last night [above] referring to the same article in this link after I posted.)

Santee has historically been one of the absolute CHEAPEST places to buy raw land in the entire county, due to a variety of factors (heat, air pollution, lack of zoning, etc). In short, it fails the “location, location, location” test.

No doubt Lennar purchased the land to develop Sky Ranch dirt cheap (esp. since they had to cut off the top of one of Santee’s surrounding mtns (which sock it in with air pollution). There are absolutely no sales comparables in Santee to support Lennar’s purported asking prices here. They have obviously over-developed for the area. The $3,300+ a month that SkyRanchOwner posted is an ASTRONOMICAL monthly cash outlay to live in SANTEE!! SkyRanchOwner may have a large house, but IMHO a $600K+ purchase price will buy a VERY well-located property with LAND (1/4 AC – 1 AC) in SD County. Well-located LAND is generally MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY lot in a *NEW* subdivision. With a $323 mo. HOA fee, SkyRanchOwner could purchase A LOT of home improvement products EACH MONTH to fix up a large cosmetic fixer on LAND and she/he would be giving back to THEMSELVES every month in the form of sweat equity instead of an “HOA.”

No offense to any Piggs here but even though many businesses have moved into Santee in the last 20 years, its topographical, geographical and zoning issues render it as having what we refer to in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”[/quote]

I think you are too critical towards Santee. It has turned around in the last few years with many new businesses and updated infrastructure. Granted, “La Jolla” of the east county may be a few more years away but compared to other cities in the east county Santee is more attractive.

Skyranch owners have all been quite happy (just go back and read some of their comments).

[kcal09]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=UCGal]Your kidding about them moving Las Colinas, right?

NO neighborhood wants a prison in their backyard. It’s already in Santee – and it seems extremely unlikely that it will be moved to someone elses backyard. NIMBYism will prevent it. Where are they going to move it? It has to be central enough to get to the 3 courthouses in the county (downtown San Diego, El Cajon, North County). Santee fits that bill.

I think the people of Santee need to be comfortable with Las Colinas – they’re going to coexist as long as we need a womens detention center.

Santee is nice enough. I’m not a Santee basher. Las Colinas wouldn’t be a deciding factor if I were looking there. One of my extended family is looking at REOs out there.[/quote]

You are correct, UCGal, IMO the law is on the side of the County here.

See: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/30/las-colinas-jail-land-to-be-acquired-by-eminent/

(I noticed Flu’s post of last night [above] referring to the same article in this link after I posted.)

Santee has historically been one of the absolute CHEAPEST places to buy raw land in the entire county, due to a variety of factors (heat, air pollution, lack of zoning, etc). In short, it fails the “location, location, location” test.

No doubt Lennar purchased the land to develop Sky Ranch dirt cheap (esp. since they had to cut off the top of one of Santee’s surrounding mtns (which sock it in with air pollution). There are absolutely no sales comparables in Santee to support Lennar’s purported asking prices here. They have obviously over-developed for the area. The $3,300+ a month that SkyRanchOwner posted is an ASTRONOMICAL monthly cash outlay to live in SANTEE!! SkyRanchOwner may have a large house, but IMHO a $600K+ purchase price will buy a VERY well-located property with LAND (1/4 AC – 1 AC) in SD County. Well-located LAND is generally MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY lot in a *NEW* subdivision. With a $323 mo. HOA fee, SkyRanchOwner could purchase A LOT of home improvement products EACH MONTH to fix up a large cosmetic fixer on LAND and she/he would be giving back to THEMSELVES every month in the form of sweat equity instead of an “HOA.”

No offense to any Piggs here but even though many businesses have moved into Santee in the last 20 years, its topographical, geographical and zoning issues render it as having what we refer to in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”[/quote]

I think you are too critical towards Santee. It has turned around in the last few years with many new businesses and updated infrastructure. Granted, “La Jolla” of the east county may be a few more years away but compared to other cities in the east county Santee is more attractive.

Skyranch owners have all been quite happy (just go back and read some of their comments).

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