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January 22, 2009 at 10:17 AM #333725January 22, 2009 at 10:23 AM #333224barnaby33Participant
I wouldn’t bet on the pound rising much soon, at least not in any long term or structural sense. England’s banking problem is almost as immense as Iceland’s. Its a small country, relative to the size of its banking industry. Its currency isn’t a reserve and its banks took even more risks than US banks.
I know its hard to imagine, but as this unravels you are going to see that many banks in Europe were FAR more leveraged than the US. The City competed over the last 20 years with Wall St by offering even more aggressive products. If Gordon Brown does end up going through with bank nationalization, the pound is really screwed. We could see parity or worse.
Just remember the deflation is global, the reflation is global and so currency debasement is relative. People running from the dollar have to run to something that isn’t being inflated even worse. Once the actual inflation makes it out from behind bank walls and people see the inflation, or we get enough inflation to counter the current deflation, get the fuck out of paper currencies. For now however its deflation ahoy!
JoshJanuary 22, 2009 at 10:23 AM #333559barnaby33ParticipantI wouldn’t bet on the pound rising much soon, at least not in any long term or structural sense. England’s banking problem is almost as immense as Iceland’s. Its a small country, relative to the size of its banking industry. Its currency isn’t a reserve and its banks took even more risks than US banks.
I know its hard to imagine, but as this unravels you are going to see that many banks in Europe were FAR more leveraged than the US. The City competed over the last 20 years with Wall St by offering even more aggressive products. If Gordon Brown does end up going through with bank nationalization, the pound is really screwed. We could see parity or worse.
Just remember the deflation is global, the reflation is global and so currency debasement is relative. People running from the dollar have to run to something that isn’t being inflated even worse. Once the actual inflation makes it out from behind bank walls and people see the inflation, or we get enough inflation to counter the current deflation, get the fuck out of paper currencies. For now however its deflation ahoy!
JoshJanuary 22, 2009 at 10:23 AM #333642barnaby33ParticipantI wouldn’t bet on the pound rising much soon, at least not in any long term or structural sense. England’s banking problem is almost as immense as Iceland’s. Its a small country, relative to the size of its banking industry. Its currency isn’t a reserve and its banks took even more risks than US banks.
I know its hard to imagine, but as this unravels you are going to see that many banks in Europe were FAR more leveraged than the US. The City competed over the last 20 years with Wall St by offering even more aggressive products. If Gordon Brown does end up going through with bank nationalization, the pound is really screwed. We could see parity or worse.
Just remember the deflation is global, the reflation is global and so currency debasement is relative. People running from the dollar have to run to something that isn’t being inflated even worse. Once the actual inflation makes it out from behind bank walls and people see the inflation, or we get enough inflation to counter the current deflation, get the fuck out of paper currencies. For now however its deflation ahoy!
JoshJanuary 22, 2009 at 10:23 AM #333670barnaby33ParticipantI wouldn’t bet on the pound rising much soon, at least not in any long term or structural sense. England’s banking problem is almost as immense as Iceland’s. Its a small country, relative to the size of its banking industry. Its currency isn’t a reserve and its banks took even more risks than US banks.
I know its hard to imagine, but as this unravels you are going to see that many banks in Europe were FAR more leveraged than the US. The City competed over the last 20 years with Wall St by offering even more aggressive products. If Gordon Brown does end up going through with bank nationalization, the pound is really screwed. We could see parity or worse.
Just remember the deflation is global, the reflation is global and so currency debasement is relative. People running from the dollar have to run to something that isn’t being inflated even worse. Once the actual inflation makes it out from behind bank walls and people see the inflation, or we get enough inflation to counter the current deflation, get the fuck out of paper currencies. For now however its deflation ahoy!
JoshJanuary 22, 2009 at 10:23 AM #333755barnaby33ParticipantI wouldn’t bet on the pound rising much soon, at least not in any long term or structural sense. England’s banking problem is almost as immense as Iceland’s. Its a small country, relative to the size of its banking industry. Its currency isn’t a reserve and its banks took even more risks than US banks.
I know its hard to imagine, but as this unravels you are going to see that many banks in Europe were FAR more leveraged than the US. The City competed over the last 20 years with Wall St by offering even more aggressive products. If Gordon Brown does end up going through with bank nationalization, the pound is really screwed. We could see parity or worse.
Just remember the deflation is global, the reflation is global and so currency debasement is relative. People running from the dollar have to run to something that isn’t being inflated even worse. Once the actual inflation makes it out from behind bank walls and people see the inflation, or we get enough inflation to counter the current deflation, get the fuck out of paper currencies. For now however its deflation ahoy!
JoshJanuary 22, 2009 at 10:44 AM #333255patientlywaitingParticipant[quote=barnaby33]I wouldn’t bet on the pound rising much soon, at least not in any long term or structural sense. England’s banking problem is almost as immense as Iceland’s. Its a small country, relative to the size of its banking industry. Its currency isn’t a reserve and its banks took even more risks than US banks.
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What does the UK produce that anybody wants?
The City on the Thames benefited from all the oil money as the Arabs, and the Russians, after 9/11, invested via London.
Now that the oil wealth is evaporating and the Middle Eastern countries have budget deficits, I don’t see London rising anytime soon.
As 9/11 becomes of a memory, oil money can again flow directly to New York and to the new money centers in the world (Dubai, Singapore, Shanghai, etc..)
It would be ironic if the UK end up having to beg to join the Euro zone.
January 22, 2009 at 10:44 AM #333588patientlywaitingParticipant[quote=barnaby33]I wouldn’t bet on the pound rising much soon, at least not in any long term or structural sense. England’s banking problem is almost as immense as Iceland’s. Its a small country, relative to the size of its banking industry. Its currency isn’t a reserve and its banks took even more risks than US banks.
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What does the UK produce that anybody wants?
The City on the Thames benefited from all the oil money as the Arabs, and the Russians, after 9/11, invested via London.
Now that the oil wealth is evaporating and the Middle Eastern countries have budget deficits, I don’t see London rising anytime soon.
As 9/11 becomes of a memory, oil money can again flow directly to New York and to the new money centers in the world (Dubai, Singapore, Shanghai, etc..)
It would be ironic if the UK end up having to beg to join the Euro zone.
January 22, 2009 at 10:44 AM #333672patientlywaitingParticipant[quote=barnaby33]I wouldn’t bet on the pound rising much soon, at least not in any long term or structural sense. England’s banking problem is almost as immense as Iceland’s. Its a small country, relative to the size of its banking industry. Its currency isn’t a reserve and its banks took even more risks than US banks.
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What does the UK produce that anybody wants?
The City on the Thames benefited from all the oil money as the Arabs, and the Russians, after 9/11, invested via London.
Now that the oil wealth is evaporating and the Middle Eastern countries have budget deficits, I don’t see London rising anytime soon.
As 9/11 becomes of a memory, oil money can again flow directly to New York and to the new money centers in the world (Dubai, Singapore, Shanghai, etc..)
It would be ironic if the UK end up having to beg to join the Euro zone.
January 22, 2009 at 10:44 AM #333699patientlywaitingParticipant[quote=barnaby33]I wouldn’t bet on the pound rising much soon, at least not in any long term or structural sense. England’s banking problem is almost as immense as Iceland’s. Its a small country, relative to the size of its banking industry. Its currency isn’t a reserve and its banks took even more risks than US banks.
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What does the UK produce that anybody wants?
The City on the Thames benefited from all the oil money as the Arabs, and the Russians, after 9/11, invested via London.
Now that the oil wealth is evaporating and the Middle Eastern countries have budget deficits, I don’t see London rising anytime soon.
As 9/11 becomes of a memory, oil money can again flow directly to New York and to the new money centers in the world (Dubai, Singapore, Shanghai, etc..)
It would be ironic if the UK end up having to beg to join the Euro zone.
January 22, 2009 at 10:44 AM #333785patientlywaitingParticipant[quote=barnaby33]I wouldn’t bet on the pound rising much soon, at least not in any long term or structural sense. England’s banking problem is almost as immense as Iceland’s. Its a small country, relative to the size of its banking industry. Its currency isn’t a reserve and its banks took even more risks than US banks.
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What does the UK produce that anybody wants?
The City on the Thames benefited from all the oil money as the Arabs, and the Russians, after 9/11, invested via London.
Now that the oil wealth is evaporating and the Middle Eastern countries have budget deficits, I don’t see London rising anytime soon.
As 9/11 becomes of a memory, oil money can again flow directly to New York and to the new money centers in the world (Dubai, Singapore, Shanghai, etc..)
It would be ironic if the UK end up having to beg to join the Euro zone.
January 22, 2009 at 11:30 AM #333280peterbParticipantIt wont be long before they’ll be calling it the “Pounded”. Talk about a currency in trouble!!
January 22, 2009 at 11:30 AM #333613peterbParticipantIt wont be long before they’ll be calling it the “Pounded”. Talk about a currency in trouble!!
January 22, 2009 at 11:30 AM #333697peterbParticipantIt wont be long before they’ll be calling it the “Pounded”. Talk about a currency in trouble!!
January 22, 2009 at 11:30 AM #333724peterbParticipantIt wont be long before they’ll be calling it the “Pounded”. Talk about a currency in trouble!!
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