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April 5, 2011 at 11:26 AM #684710April 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM #683538
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The typical family of four lived in a 1200 square foot home in 1960. I will grant you that even that size house in SAN DIEGO might be more expensive on a relative scale than it was 50 years ago, but… in most of the country it is not. You’ve simply chosen to live in a “glamour market” (as Robert Shiller calls it)… with all that entails, sacrifices and all.[/quote]Well, we’d move in another cheaper state in a heartbeat, believe me, but we couldn’t find jobs. Been looking.
They haven’t been building 1200 sf houses in the last 25+ years…. And today’s furniture would not fit in the 1200 sf house, LOL!
April 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM #683591Participant[quote=davelj]
The typical family of four lived in a 1200 square foot home in 1960. I will grant you that even that size house in SAN DIEGO might be more expensive on a relative scale than it was 50 years ago, but… in most of the country it is not. You’ve simply chosen to live in a “glamour market” (as Robert Shiller calls it)… with all that entails, sacrifices and all.[/quote]Well, we’d move in another cheaper state in a heartbeat, believe me, but we couldn’t find jobs. Been looking.
They haven’t been building 1200 sf houses in the last 25+ years…. And today’s furniture would not fit in the 1200 sf house, LOL!
April 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM #684220Participant[quote=davelj]
The typical family of four lived in a 1200 square foot home in 1960. I will grant you that even that size house in SAN DIEGO might be more expensive on a relative scale than it was 50 years ago, but… in most of the country it is not. You’ve simply chosen to live in a “glamour market” (as Robert Shiller calls it)… with all that entails, sacrifices and all.[/quote]Well, we’d move in another cheaper state in a heartbeat, believe me, but we couldn’t find jobs. Been looking.
They haven’t been building 1200 sf houses in the last 25+ years…. And today’s furniture would not fit in the 1200 sf house, LOL!
April 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM #684361Participant[quote=davelj]
The typical family of four lived in a 1200 square foot home in 1960. I will grant you that even that size house in SAN DIEGO might be more expensive on a relative scale than it was 50 years ago, but… in most of the country it is not. You’ve simply chosen to live in a “glamour market” (as Robert Shiller calls it)… with all that entails, sacrifices and all.[/quote]Well, we’d move in another cheaper state in a heartbeat, believe me, but we couldn’t find jobs. Been looking.
They haven’t been building 1200 sf houses in the last 25+ years…. And today’s furniture would not fit in the 1200 sf house, LOL!
April 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM #684715Participant[quote=davelj]
The typical family of four lived in a 1200 square foot home in 1960. I will grant you that even that size house in SAN DIEGO might be more expensive on a relative scale than it was 50 years ago, but… in most of the country it is not. You’ve simply chosen to live in a “glamour market” (as Robert Shiller calls it)… with all that entails, sacrifices and all.[/quote]Well, we’d move in another cheaper state in a heartbeat, believe me, but we couldn’t find jobs. Been looking.
They haven’t been building 1200 sf houses in the last 25+ years…. And today’s furniture would not fit in the 1200 sf house, LOL!
April 5, 2011 at 11:45 AM #683543Participant[quote=davelj][quote=Scarlett]
Let see then in our case what that would mean. ONe income = 75K. 3 x that. $225K. Can you tell me what kind of decent house we can buy with that in lets say UC (older, non-tract houses, stable retiree neighborhood), or in PQ or in SR? That’s right. ZERO. No, it would buy a 2 bdr small apt. A 3 bdr 1500 sf house is about TWICE that, at least. Which is why we need to spend both incomes. q.e.d.[/quote]
Plenty available down in Chula Vista – a very middle class community – in your price range. Or perhaps there’s something about Chula Vista that you find objectionable…
The word “decent” when applied to almost anything is quite subjective, yes?[/quote]
No I don’t object to Chula Vista at all, and we even very briefly considered it (it was in an older thread), if it wouldn’t have been for the commute to LJ village. I have a coworker who does it at rush hour and hates it. But it’s close to their families.
BTW, by “decent” I meant not a major fixer upper for which we don’t have the money. I wasn’t refering to location, since that was already kind of implied before. I mentioned the UC, where BG thinks I should buy (again, older thread), and PQ where we’d think we should buy.
April 5, 2011 at 11:45 AM #683596Participant[quote=davelj][quote=Scarlett]
Let see then in our case what that would mean. ONe income = 75K. 3 x that. $225K. Can you tell me what kind of decent house we can buy with that in lets say UC (older, non-tract houses, stable retiree neighborhood), or in PQ or in SR? That’s right. ZERO. No, it would buy a 2 bdr small apt. A 3 bdr 1500 sf house is about TWICE that, at least. Which is why we need to spend both incomes. q.e.d.[/quote]
Plenty available down in Chula Vista – a very middle class community – in your price range. Or perhaps there’s something about Chula Vista that you find objectionable…
The word “decent” when applied to almost anything is quite subjective, yes?[/quote]
No I don’t object to Chula Vista at all, and we even very briefly considered it (it was in an older thread), if it wouldn’t have been for the commute to LJ village. I have a coworker who does it at rush hour and hates it. But it’s close to their families.
BTW, by “decent” I meant not a major fixer upper for which we don’t have the money. I wasn’t refering to location, since that was already kind of implied before. I mentioned the UC, where BG thinks I should buy (again, older thread), and PQ where we’d think we should buy.
April 5, 2011 at 11:45 AM #684225Participant[quote=davelj][quote=Scarlett]
Let see then in our case what that would mean. ONe income = 75K. 3 x that. $225K. Can you tell me what kind of decent house we can buy with that in lets say UC (older, non-tract houses, stable retiree neighborhood), or in PQ or in SR? That’s right. ZERO. No, it would buy a 2 bdr small apt. A 3 bdr 1500 sf house is about TWICE that, at least. Which is why we need to spend both incomes. q.e.d.[/quote]
Plenty available down in Chula Vista – a very middle class community – in your price range. Or perhaps there’s something about Chula Vista that you find objectionable…
The word “decent” when applied to almost anything is quite subjective, yes?[/quote]
No I don’t object to Chula Vista at all, and we even very briefly considered it (it was in an older thread), if it wouldn’t have been for the commute to LJ village. I have a coworker who does it at rush hour and hates it. But it’s close to their families.
BTW, by “decent” I meant not a major fixer upper for which we don’t have the money. I wasn’t refering to location, since that was already kind of implied before. I mentioned the UC, where BG thinks I should buy (again, older thread), and PQ where we’d think we should buy.
April 5, 2011 at 11:45 AM #684366Participant[quote=davelj][quote=Scarlett]
Let see then in our case what that would mean. ONe income = 75K. 3 x that. $225K. Can you tell me what kind of decent house we can buy with that in lets say UC (older, non-tract houses, stable retiree neighborhood), or in PQ or in SR? That’s right. ZERO. No, it would buy a 2 bdr small apt. A 3 bdr 1500 sf house is about TWICE that, at least. Which is why we need to spend both incomes. q.e.d.[/quote]
Plenty available down in Chula Vista – a very middle class community – in your price range. Or perhaps there’s something about Chula Vista that you find objectionable…
The word “decent” when applied to almost anything is quite subjective, yes?[/quote]
No I don’t object to Chula Vista at all, and we even very briefly considered it (it was in an older thread), if it wouldn’t have been for the commute to LJ village. I have a coworker who does it at rush hour and hates it. But it’s close to their families.
BTW, by “decent” I meant not a major fixer upper for which we don’t have the money. I wasn’t refering to location, since that was already kind of implied before. I mentioned the UC, where BG thinks I should buy (again, older thread), and PQ where we’d think we should buy.
April 5, 2011 at 11:45 AM #684720Participant[quote=davelj][quote=Scarlett]
Let see then in our case what that would mean. ONe income = 75K. 3 x that. $225K. Can you tell me what kind of decent house we can buy with that in lets say UC (older, non-tract houses, stable retiree neighborhood), or in PQ or in SR? That’s right. ZERO. No, it would buy a 2 bdr small apt. A 3 bdr 1500 sf house is about TWICE that, at least. Which is why we need to spend both incomes. q.e.d.[/quote]
Plenty available down in Chula Vista – a very middle class community – in your price range. Or perhaps there’s something about Chula Vista that you find objectionable…
The word “decent” when applied to almost anything is quite subjective, yes?[/quote]
No I don’t object to Chula Vista at all, and we even very briefly considered it (it was in an older thread), if it wouldn’t have been for the commute to LJ village. I have a coworker who does it at rush hour and hates it. But it’s close to their families.
BTW, by “decent” I meant not a major fixer upper for which we don’t have the money. I wasn’t refering to location, since that was already kind of implied before. I mentioned the UC, where BG thinks I should buy (again, older thread), and PQ where we’d think we should buy.
April 5, 2011 at 11:46 AM #683553Ren
Participant[quote=Scarlett]Lucky for you, we don’t have a choice, as we are tied to our workplaces in La Jolla so automatically have to live within reasonable distance and much closer to the edge of our means.[/quote]
Just curious – are you tied to La Jolla because your work requires you to be “on call” and nearby, or are you tied because you refuse to spend two hours in the car every day? (Both valid reasons.)
It’s a big sacrifice, one I’m only willing to make for three years. One down, two to go.
April 5, 2011 at 11:46 AM #683606Participant[quote=Scarlett]Lucky for you, we don’t have a choice, as we are tied to our workplaces in La Jolla so automatically have to live within reasonable distance and much closer to the edge of our means.[/quote]
Just curious – are you tied to La Jolla because your work requires you to be “on call” and nearby, or are you tied because you refuse to spend two hours in the car every day? (Both valid reasons.)
It’s a big sacrifice, one I’m only willing to make for three years. One down, two to go.
April 5, 2011 at 11:46 AM #684236Participant[quote=Scarlett]Lucky for you, we don’t have a choice, as we are tied to our workplaces in La Jolla so automatically have to live within reasonable distance and much closer to the edge of our means.[/quote]
Just curious – are you tied to La Jolla because your work requires you to be “on call” and nearby, or are you tied because you refuse to spend two hours in the car every day? (Both valid reasons.)
It’s a big sacrifice, one I’m only willing to make for three years. One down, two to go.
April 5, 2011 at 11:46 AM #684377Participant[quote=Scarlett]Lucky for you, we don’t have a choice, as we are tied to our workplaces in La Jolla so automatically have to live within reasonable distance and much closer to the edge of our means.[/quote]
Just curious – are you tied to La Jolla because your work requires you to be “on call” and nearby, or are you tied because you refuse to spend two hours in the car every day? (Both valid reasons.)
It’s a big sacrifice, one I’m only willing to make for three years. One down, two to go.
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