Schwarzenegger backs state services to immigrants

[ralphfurley]

[quote=Arraya]
We obviously can’t afford to get rid of illegals now. It would not be good business.
[/quote]
That’s exactly it. Bad for business to stop them. It would cost more not to have them (or push the cost onto the consumer).

Schwarzenegger created this problem when he got into office by repealing the car tax. All that lost money totals up to (or damn close to) our deficit. Did we cut anything during the good years? I can’t remember much except camping fees going up a bit. Maybe they cut a few bucks from Parks and Recreation. Sure seems like voters want everything and don’t want to pay for it.

[no_such_reality]

The math on the budget is really simple.

Is there 20% fat in the Prison system? that’s a yes or no.

Is there 20% fat in the State Health Care system? That’s a yes or no?

Is there 20% fat in the State Employee compensation and retirement? that’s a yes or no?

Is there 20% fat in the Education system? That’s a yes or no.

If ALL are yes, then cuts can close the budget gap without impacts.

If they aren’t all yes, then it’s cuts with impacts and or additional revenue.

[no_such_reality]

The math on the budget is really simple.

Is there 20% fat in the Prison system? that’s a yes or no.

Is there 20% fat in the State Health Care system? That’s a yes or no?

Is there 20% fat in the State Employee compensation and retirement? that’s a yes or no?

Is there 20% fat in the Education system? That’s a yes or no.

If ALL are yes, then cuts can close the budget gap without impacts.

If they aren’t all yes, then it’s cuts with impacts and or additional revenue.

[no_such_reality]

The math on the budget is really simple.

Is there 20% fat in the Prison system? that’s a yes or no.

Is there 20% fat in the State Health Care system? That’s a yes or no?

Is there 20% fat in the State Employee compensation and retirement? that’s a yes or no?

Is there 20% fat in the Education system? That’s a yes or no.

If ALL are yes, then cuts can close the budget gap without impacts.

If they aren’t all yes, then it’s cuts with impacts and or additional revenue.

[no_such_reality]

The math on the budget is really simple.

Is there 20% fat in the Prison system? that’s a yes or no.

Is there 20% fat in the State Health Care system? That’s a yes or no?

Is there 20% fat in the State Employee compensation and retirement? that’s a yes or no?

Is there 20% fat in the Education system? That’s a yes or no.

If ALL are yes, then cuts can close the budget gap without impacts.

If they aren’t all yes, then it’s cuts with impacts and or additional revenue.

[no_such_reality]

The math on the budget is really simple.

Is there 20% fat in the Prison system? that’s a yes or no.

Is there 20% fat in the State Health Care system? That’s a yes or no?

Is there 20% fat in the State Employee compensation and retirement? that’s a yes or no?

Is there 20% fat in the Education system? That’s a yes or no.

If ALL are yes, then cuts can close the budget gap without impacts.

If they aren’t all yes, then it’s cuts with impacts and or additional revenue.

[BuyerWillEPB]

“Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger says he’s “happy” illegal immigrants get state services”

Great, so Arny won’t mind cutting a nice fat check to the state treasury then.

Actions, girlie man, not words. Let’s see you back that statement with a nice donation of let’s say 200 million dollars of your movie profits to the CA general fund.

Yeah, I didn’t think so. Girlie man.

[BuyerWillEPB]

“Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger says he’s “happy” illegal immigrants get state services”

Great, so Arny won’t mind cutting a nice fat check to the state treasury then.

Actions, girlie man, not words. Let’s see you back that statement with a nice donation of let’s say 200 million dollars of your movie profits to the CA general fund.

Yeah, I didn’t think so. Girlie man.

[BuyerWillEPB]

“Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger says he’s “happy” illegal immigrants get state services”

Great, so Arny won’t mind cutting a nice fat check to the state treasury then.

Actions, girlie man, not words. Let’s see you back that statement with a nice donation of let’s say 200 million dollars of your movie profits to the CA general fund.

Yeah, I didn’t think so. Girlie man.

[BuyerWillEPB]

“Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger says he’s “happy” illegal immigrants get state services”

Great, so Arny won’t mind cutting a nice fat check to the state treasury then.

Actions, girlie man, not words. Let’s see you back that statement with a nice donation of let’s say 200 million dollars of your movie profits to the CA general fund.

Yeah, I didn’t think so. Girlie man.

[BuyerWillEPB]

“Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger says he’s “happy” illegal immigrants get state services”

Great, so Arny won’t mind cutting a nice fat check to the state treasury then.

Actions, girlie man, not words. Let’s see you back that statement with a nice donation of let’s say 200 million dollars of your movie profits to the CA general fund.

Yeah, I didn’t think so. Girlie man.

[NotCranky]

[quote=ralphfurley][quote=Arraya]
We obviously can’t afford to get rid of illegals now. It would not be good business.
[/quote]
That’s exactly it. Bad for business to stop them. It would cost more not to have them (or push the cost onto the consumer).

Schwarzenegger created this problem when he got into office by repealing the car tax. All that lost money totals up to (or damn close to) our deficit. Did we cut anything during the good years? I can’t remember much except camping fees going up a bit. Maybe they cut a few bucks from Parks and Recreation. Sure seems like voters want everything and don’t want to pay for it. [/quote]

That’s right.
Illegals and their “anchor children” comprise a complimentary not a supplemental role in our society. Even in bad times more enfranchised people still would want them to do the grueling and low paying hazardous jobs. It is the whiners who want all the benefits and not to give back what they themselves would require to perform the roles illegals, green card holders and new citizens born of this system do. This is especially true when we are all feeling a little threat of being supplemental.

To quote CArenter:”If it is so great for them why don’t the whiners go do their work”(without the services and saftey net you wish to deny them). Toughen up girlie-men learn to live with less for yourself, or the threat of less, or get a second job picking tomatoes or scraping anti-fouling chemicals off U.S Navy ships and similiar jobs. Many of these people work two such jobs in a given day.

If you want to hold up your standard of living and get rid of low paid laborers and semi- skilled workers. I am sure you can handle your cush job and one immigrants job at the same time and also wash your own car, paint your own house and pay higher prices for everything or go without, all the while bringing up first class little gringos.

While none of this may apply to any Piggingtons, it is what is left out of the arguments of many who feel compelled to slander and undermine many of our working men and women. Or should we legitimize, perhaps unionize all the work these people do and abolish the unfair stigma of “illegal”?

This is not to say some of these services can’t be on the table for cuts. It is just obvious that a high percentage of people don’t even want to be reasonably circumspect about the topic.

Go Arnie!

[NotCranky]

[quote=ralphfurley][quote=Arraya]
We obviously can’t afford to get rid of illegals now. It would not be good business.
[/quote]
That’s exactly it. Bad for business to stop them. It would cost more not to have them (or push the cost onto the consumer).

Schwarzenegger created this problem when he got into office by repealing the car tax. All that lost money totals up to (or damn close to) our deficit. Did we cut anything during the good years? I can’t remember much except camping fees going up a bit. Maybe they cut a few bucks from Parks and Recreation. Sure seems like voters want everything and don’t want to pay for it. [/quote]

That’s right.
Illegals and their “anchor children” comprise a complimentary not a supplemental role in our society. Even in bad times more enfranchised people still would want them to do the grueling and low paying hazardous jobs. It is the whiners who want all the benefits and not to give back what they themselves would require to perform the roles illegals, green card holders and new citizens born of this system do. This is especially true when we are all feeling a little threat of being supplemental.

To quote CArenter:”If it is so great for them why don’t the whiners go do their work”(without the services and saftey net you wish to deny them). Toughen up girlie-men learn to live with less for yourself, or the threat of less, or get a second job picking tomatoes or scraping anti-fouling chemicals off U.S Navy ships and similiar jobs. Many of these people work two such jobs in a given day.

If you want to hold up your standard of living and get rid of low paid laborers and semi- skilled workers. I am sure you can handle your cush job and one immigrants job at the same time and also wash your own car, paint your own house and pay higher prices for everything or go without, all the while bringing up first class little gringos.

While none of this may apply to any Piggingtons, it is what is left out of the arguments of many who feel compelled to slander and undermine many of our working men and women. Or should we legitimize, perhaps unionize all the work these people do and abolish the unfair stigma of “illegal”?

This is not to say some of these services can’t be on the table for cuts. It is just obvious that a high percentage of people don’t even want to be reasonably circumspect about the topic.

Go Arnie!

[NotCranky]

[quote=ralphfurley][quote=Arraya]
We obviously can’t afford to get rid of illegals now. It would not be good business.
[/quote]
That’s exactly it. Bad for business to stop them. It would cost more not to have them (or push the cost onto the consumer).

Schwarzenegger created this problem when he got into office by repealing the car tax. All that lost money totals up to (or damn close to) our deficit. Did we cut anything during the good years? I can’t remember much except camping fees going up a bit. Maybe they cut a few bucks from Parks and Recreation. Sure seems like voters want everything and don’t want to pay for it. [/quote]

That’s right.
Illegals and their “anchor children” comprise a complimentary not a supplemental role in our society. Even in bad times more enfranchised people still would want them to do the grueling and low paying hazardous jobs. It is the whiners who want all the benefits and not to give back what they themselves would require to perform the roles illegals, green card holders and new citizens born of this system do. This is especially true when we are all feeling a little threat of being supplemental.

To quote CArenter:”If it is so great for them why don’t the whiners go do their work”(without the services and saftey net you wish to deny them). Toughen up girlie-men learn to live with less for yourself, or the threat of less, or get a second job picking tomatoes or scraping anti-fouling chemicals off U.S Navy ships and similiar jobs. Many of these people work two such jobs in a given day.

If you want to hold up your standard of living and get rid of low paid laborers and semi- skilled workers. I am sure you can handle your cush job and one immigrants job at the same time and also wash your own car, paint your own house and pay higher prices for everything or go without, all the while bringing up first class little gringos.

While none of this may apply to any Piggingtons, it is what is left out of the arguments of many who feel compelled to slander and undermine many of our working men and women. Or should we legitimize, perhaps unionize all the work these people do and abolish the unfair stigma of “illegal”?

This is not to say some of these services can’t be on the table for cuts. It is just obvious that a high percentage of people don’t even want to be reasonably circumspect about the topic.

Go Arnie!

[NotCranky]

[quote=ralphfurley][quote=Arraya]
We obviously can’t afford to get rid of illegals now. It would not be good business.
[/quote]
That’s exactly it. Bad for business to stop them. It would cost more not to have them (or push the cost onto the consumer).

Schwarzenegger created this problem when he got into office by repealing the car tax. All that lost money totals up to (or damn close to) our deficit. Did we cut anything during the good years? I can’t remember much except camping fees going up a bit. Maybe they cut a few bucks from Parks and Recreation. Sure seems like voters want everything and don’t want to pay for it. [/quote]

That’s right.
Illegals and their “anchor children” comprise a complimentary not a supplemental role in our society. Even in bad times more enfranchised people still would want them to do the grueling and low paying hazardous jobs. It is the whiners who want all the benefits and not to give back what they themselves would require to perform the roles illegals, green card holders and new citizens born of this system do. This is especially true when we are all feeling a little threat of being supplemental.

To quote CArenter:”If it is so great for them why don’t the whiners go do their work”(without the services and saftey net you wish to deny them). Toughen up girlie-men learn to live with less for yourself, or the threat of less, or get a second job picking tomatoes or scraping anti-fouling chemicals off U.S Navy ships and similiar jobs. Many of these people work two such jobs in a given day.

If you want to hold up your standard of living and get rid of low paid laborers and semi- skilled workers. I am sure you can handle your cush job and one immigrants job at the same time and also wash your own car, paint your own house and pay higher prices for everything or go without, all the while bringing up first class little gringos.

While none of this may apply to any Piggingtons, it is what is left out of the arguments of many who feel compelled to slander and undermine many of our working men and women. Or should we legitimize, perhaps unionize all the work these people do and abolish the unfair stigma of “illegal”?

This is not to say some of these services can’t be on the table for cuts. It is just obvious that a high percentage of people don’t even want to be reasonably circumspect about the topic.

Go Arnie!

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