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June 8, 2009 at 6:51 PM #413193June 8, 2009 at 8:10 PM #412519
Jim Jones
Participant[quote=peterb]I think You’re alluding to supply and demand forces. We can have assets increase in price in other ways besides population growth. We can also have supply constraints for any number of reasons. We can have wage growth as well to push prices up.
Cheap labour is a device to create an increase in profit margin while maintaining product price. But as we are now seeing, cheap labour comes at a societal and real $$ cost. Especially nowadays when there’s substantial social welfare in the system and the economy contracts.[/quote]
I believe the concept you are describing is called cost externalizing which in this case would consider the societal costs of illegal immigration to be external from the beneficiaries which are the businesses utilizing the resource (the labor of illegal immigrants).
June 8, 2009 at 8:10 PM #412757Participant[quote=peterb]I think You’re alluding to supply and demand forces. We can have assets increase in price in other ways besides population growth. We can also have supply constraints for any number of reasons. We can have wage growth as well to push prices up.
Cheap labour is a device to create an increase in profit margin while maintaining product price. But as we are now seeing, cheap labour comes at a societal and real $$ cost. Especially nowadays when there’s substantial social welfare in the system and the economy contracts.[/quote]
I believe the concept you are describing is called cost externalizing which in this case would consider the societal costs of illegal immigration to be external from the beneficiaries which are the businesses utilizing the resource (the labor of illegal immigrants).
June 8, 2009 at 8:10 PM #413002Participant[quote=peterb]I think You’re alluding to supply and demand forces. We can have assets increase in price in other ways besides population growth. We can also have supply constraints for any number of reasons. We can have wage growth as well to push prices up.
Cheap labour is a device to create an increase in profit margin while maintaining product price. But as we are now seeing, cheap labour comes at a societal and real $$ cost. Especially nowadays when there’s substantial social welfare in the system and the economy contracts.[/quote]
I believe the concept you are describing is called cost externalizing which in this case would consider the societal costs of illegal immigration to be external from the beneficiaries which are the businesses utilizing the resource (the labor of illegal immigrants).
June 8, 2009 at 8:10 PM #413064Participant[quote=peterb]I think You’re alluding to supply and demand forces. We can have assets increase in price in other ways besides population growth. We can also have supply constraints for any number of reasons. We can have wage growth as well to push prices up.
Cheap labour is a device to create an increase in profit margin while maintaining product price. But as we are now seeing, cheap labour comes at a societal and real $$ cost. Especially nowadays when there’s substantial social welfare in the system and the economy contracts.[/quote]
I believe the concept you are describing is called cost externalizing which in this case would consider the societal costs of illegal immigration to be external from the beneficiaries which are the businesses utilizing the resource (the labor of illegal immigrants).
June 8, 2009 at 8:10 PM #413218Participant[quote=peterb]I think You’re alluding to supply and demand forces. We can have assets increase in price in other ways besides population growth. We can also have supply constraints for any number of reasons. We can have wage growth as well to push prices up.
Cheap labour is a device to create an increase in profit margin while maintaining product price. But as we are now seeing, cheap labour comes at a societal and real $$ cost. Especially nowadays when there’s substantial social welfare in the system and the economy contracts.[/quote]
I believe the concept you are describing is called cost externalizing which in this case would consider the societal costs of illegal immigration to be external from the beneficiaries which are the businesses utilizing the resource (the labor of illegal immigrants).
June 8, 2009 at 11:01 PM #412564condogrrl
ParticipantTo all of you who are so sympathetic to people in the US illegally: how would you feel if your social security number were stolen and used by one of these illegals? If you don’t mind at all, then please post it here so one of us can sell it outside the local Home Depot.
Read a few stories of people who have had to try to clean up the mess of their identity after it was stolen by an illegal.
June 8, 2009 at 11:01 PM #412800ParticipantTo all of you who are so sympathetic to people in the US illegally: how would you feel if your social security number were stolen and used by one of these illegals? If you don’t mind at all, then please post it here so one of us can sell it outside the local Home Depot.
Read a few stories of people who have had to try to clean up the mess of their identity after it was stolen by an illegal.
June 8, 2009 at 11:01 PM #413044ParticipantTo all of you who are so sympathetic to people in the US illegally: how would you feel if your social security number were stolen and used by one of these illegals? If you don’t mind at all, then please post it here so one of us can sell it outside the local Home Depot.
Read a few stories of people who have had to try to clean up the mess of their identity after it was stolen by an illegal.
June 8, 2009 at 11:01 PM #413109ParticipantTo all of you who are so sympathetic to people in the US illegally: how would you feel if your social security number were stolen and used by one of these illegals? If you don’t mind at all, then please post it here so one of us can sell it outside the local Home Depot.
Read a few stories of people who have had to try to clean up the mess of their identity after it was stolen by an illegal.
June 8, 2009 at 11:01 PM #413262ParticipantTo all of you who are so sympathetic to people in the US illegally: how would you feel if your social security number were stolen and used by one of these illegals? If you don’t mind at all, then please post it here so one of us can sell it outside the local Home Depot.
Read a few stories of people who have had to try to clean up the mess of their identity after it was stolen by an illegal.
June 9, 2009 at 3:24 PM #412883sd_matt
ParticipantHere here condogirl
We reward the lawless and punish the lawful. I got a response from Fienstien. Here’s part of it.
“Most recently, during debate of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, I voted for an amendment that prohibits all recipients of Federal funds from hiring H-1B guest workers (temporary foreign workers in specialized occupations), unless a business first proves that American workers are not able to fill the jobs. This provision was included in the final version of the Act, which President Obama signed into law on February 17, 2009 (Public Law 111-5). Additionally, the White House has estimated that this Act may create or save as many as 396,000 jobs in California, and will help our state avoid additional cuts to Medi-Cal and other critical safety net programs.”
She never addressed benefits to the undocumented.
June 9, 2009 at 3:24 PM #413118ParticipantHere here condogirl
We reward the lawless and punish the lawful. I got a response from Fienstien. Here’s part of it.
“Most recently, during debate of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, I voted for an amendment that prohibits all recipients of Federal funds from hiring H-1B guest workers (temporary foreign workers in specialized occupations), unless a business first proves that American workers are not able to fill the jobs. This provision was included in the final version of the Act, which President Obama signed into law on February 17, 2009 (Public Law 111-5). Additionally, the White House has estimated that this Act may create or save as many as 396,000 jobs in California, and will help our state avoid additional cuts to Medi-Cal and other critical safety net programs.”
She never addressed benefits to the undocumented.
June 9, 2009 at 3:24 PM #413361ParticipantHere here condogirl
We reward the lawless and punish the lawful. I got a response from Fienstien. Here’s part of it.
“Most recently, during debate of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, I voted for an amendment that prohibits all recipients of Federal funds from hiring H-1B guest workers (temporary foreign workers in specialized occupations), unless a business first proves that American workers are not able to fill the jobs. This provision was included in the final version of the Act, which President Obama signed into law on February 17, 2009 (Public Law 111-5). Additionally, the White House has estimated that this Act may create or save as many as 396,000 jobs in California, and will help our state avoid additional cuts to Medi-Cal and other critical safety net programs.”
She never addressed benefits to the undocumented.
June 9, 2009 at 3:24 PM #413427ParticipantHere here condogirl
We reward the lawless and punish the lawful. I got a response from Fienstien. Here’s part of it.
“Most recently, during debate of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, I voted for an amendment that prohibits all recipients of Federal funds from hiring H-1B guest workers (temporary foreign workers in specialized occupations), unless a business first proves that American workers are not able to fill the jobs. This provision was included in the final version of the Act, which President Obama signed into law on February 17, 2009 (Public Law 111-5). Additionally, the White House has estimated that this Act may create or save as many as 396,000 jobs in California, and will help our state avoid additional cuts to Medi-Cal and other critical safety net programs.”
She never addressed benefits to the undocumented.
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