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May 13, 2009 at 10:03 AM #398606May 13, 2009 at 10:06 AM #397935
Rt.66
Participant[quote=carlsbadworker]It is very noble of you. But when it comes to investment, if you stand with the middle and lower class, that is exactly where you get screwed. If history tells us anything, the middle and lower class only improve their conditions via revolution. No pain, no gain. A revolution that requires very little effort will not work … because people will always give up easily unless they are in extreme dire conditions.[/quote]
The lack of will-power on the part of our population to fight injustice is the exact reason this low effort approach is ideal. Maybe I’m dreaming but I think something like this has a shot if it goes viral.
May 13, 2009 at 10:06 AM #398184Participant[quote=carlsbadworker]It is very noble of you. But when it comes to investment, if you stand with the middle and lower class, that is exactly where you get screwed. If history tells us anything, the middle and lower class only improve their conditions via revolution. No pain, no gain. A revolution that requires very little effort will not work … because people will always give up easily unless they are in extreme dire conditions.[/quote]
The lack of will-power on the part of our population to fight injustice is the exact reason this low effort approach is ideal. Maybe I’m dreaming but I think something like this has a shot if it goes viral.
May 13, 2009 at 10:06 AM #398409Participant[quote=carlsbadworker]It is very noble of you. But when it comes to investment, if you stand with the middle and lower class, that is exactly where you get screwed. If history tells us anything, the middle and lower class only improve their conditions via revolution. No pain, no gain. A revolution that requires very little effort will not work … because people will always give up easily unless they are in extreme dire conditions.[/quote]
The lack of will-power on the part of our population to fight injustice is the exact reason this low effort approach is ideal. Maybe I’m dreaming but I think something like this has a shot if it goes viral.
May 13, 2009 at 10:06 AM #398467Participant[quote=carlsbadworker]It is very noble of you. But when it comes to investment, if you stand with the middle and lower class, that is exactly where you get screwed. If history tells us anything, the middle and lower class only improve their conditions via revolution. No pain, no gain. A revolution that requires very little effort will not work … because people will always give up easily unless they are in extreme dire conditions.[/quote]
The lack of will-power on the part of our population to fight injustice is the exact reason this low effort approach is ideal. Maybe I’m dreaming but I think something like this has a shot if it goes viral.
May 13, 2009 at 10:06 AM #398611Participant[quote=carlsbadworker]It is very noble of you. But when it comes to investment, if you stand with the middle and lower class, that is exactly where you get screwed. If history tells us anything, the middle and lower class only improve their conditions via revolution. No pain, no gain. A revolution that requires very little effort will not work … because people will always give up easily unless they are in extreme dire conditions.[/quote]
The lack of will-power on the part of our population to fight injustice is the exact reason this low effort approach is ideal. Maybe I’m dreaming but I think something like this has a shot if it goes viral.
May 13, 2009 at 10:07 AM #397940carlsbadworker
Participant[quote=Rt.66]Excellent discription of the “opposing forces” in this battle. Well said.[/quote]
When it comes to battlefield analogy, it is my understanding that the battle is already fought and the middle/lower class has lost. Where were you last year when we are opposing the government bailout? Where were you this year when the government conspire with the banks that let them easily pass the “stress test”?
Government right now is using the tax dollar from middle/lower class (especially from the renters) to bailout the homeowners and prop up the real estate price. If you are accepting that, you are accepting defeat as well.May 13, 2009 at 10:07 AM #398189Participant[quote=Rt.66]Excellent discription of the “opposing forces” in this battle. Well said.[/quote]
When it comes to battlefield analogy, it is my understanding that the battle is already fought and the middle/lower class has lost. Where were you last year when we are opposing the government bailout? Where were you this year when the government conspire with the banks that let them easily pass the “stress test”?
Government right now is using the tax dollar from middle/lower class (especially from the renters) to bailout the homeowners and prop up the real estate price. If you are accepting that, you are accepting defeat as well.May 13, 2009 at 10:07 AM #398414Participant[quote=Rt.66]Excellent discription of the “opposing forces” in this battle. Well said.[/quote]
When it comes to battlefield analogy, it is my understanding that the battle is already fought and the middle/lower class has lost. Where were you last year when we are opposing the government bailout? Where were you this year when the government conspire with the banks that let them easily pass the “stress test”?
Government right now is using the tax dollar from middle/lower class (especially from the renters) to bailout the homeowners and prop up the real estate price. If you are accepting that, you are accepting defeat as well.May 13, 2009 at 10:07 AM #398472Participant[quote=Rt.66]Excellent discription of the “opposing forces” in this battle. Well said.[/quote]
When it comes to battlefield analogy, it is my understanding that the battle is already fought and the middle/lower class has lost. Where were you last year when we are opposing the government bailout? Where were you this year when the government conspire with the banks that let them easily pass the “stress test”?
Government right now is using the tax dollar from middle/lower class (especially from the renters) to bailout the homeowners and prop up the real estate price. If you are accepting that, you are accepting defeat as well.May 13, 2009 at 10:07 AM #398616Participant[quote=Rt.66]Excellent discription of the “opposing forces” in this battle. Well said.[/quote]
When it comes to battlefield analogy, it is my understanding that the battle is already fought and the middle/lower class has lost. Where were you last year when we are opposing the government bailout? Where were you this year when the government conspire with the banks that let them easily pass the “stress test”?
Government right now is using the tax dollar from middle/lower class (especially from the renters) to bailout the homeowners and prop up the real estate price. If you are accepting that, you are accepting defeat as well.May 13, 2009 at 10:13 AM #397950Participant[quote=barnaby33]Um Rt.66 it was the middle class that got us into this. There is plenty of blame to go around. It goes around to everyone. Lots of people (hence the middle class) have very little understanding of how the world even works
You can’t blame the greedy bankers, the senators, the appraisers blah blah blah, without looking in the mirror. You get the govt and regulations you vote for and are worthy of. While I agree with Karl more than I disagree Populism is not the answer. Convincing your friends/family/co-workers to vote for legislators who will do the right thing despite short term pain is.
Josh[/quote]I disagree. Do you really think WE get to choose who gets into office? Even when we think we have a choice and pick a winner they always end up being the same old self-serving (or should I say banker serving) politicians.
No, we have little power over that right now, but we have lots of power over whether or not we continue to pay on that ARM Greenspan suggested that we jump into, AND we have power over whether or not to buy an over-priced house.
I could care less who’s fault it is at this point. We are here, so now what? I say let’s get something for ourselves out of this.
May 13, 2009 at 10:13 AM #398199Participant[quote=barnaby33]Um Rt.66 it was the middle class that got us into this. There is plenty of blame to go around. It goes around to everyone. Lots of people (hence the middle class) have very little understanding of how the world even works
You can’t blame the greedy bankers, the senators, the appraisers blah blah blah, without looking in the mirror. You get the govt and regulations you vote for and are worthy of. While I agree with Karl more than I disagree Populism is not the answer. Convincing your friends/family/co-workers to vote for legislators who will do the right thing despite short term pain is.
Josh[/quote]I disagree. Do you really think WE get to choose who gets into office? Even when we think we have a choice and pick a winner they always end up being the same old self-serving (or should I say banker serving) politicians.
No, we have little power over that right now, but we have lots of power over whether or not we continue to pay on that ARM Greenspan suggested that we jump into, AND we have power over whether or not to buy an over-priced house.
I could care less who’s fault it is at this point. We are here, so now what? I say let’s get something for ourselves out of this.
May 13, 2009 at 10:13 AM #398424Participant[quote=barnaby33]Um Rt.66 it was the middle class that got us into this. There is plenty of blame to go around. It goes around to everyone. Lots of people (hence the middle class) have very little understanding of how the world even works
You can’t blame the greedy bankers, the senators, the appraisers blah blah blah, without looking in the mirror. You get the govt and regulations you vote for and are worthy of. While I agree with Karl more than I disagree Populism is not the answer. Convincing your friends/family/co-workers to vote for legislators who will do the right thing despite short term pain is.
Josh[/quote]I disagree. Do you really think WE get to choose who gets into office? Even when we think we have a choice and pick a winner they always end up being the same old self-serving (or should I say banker serving) politicians.
No, we have little power over that right now, but we have lots of power over whether or not we continue to pay on that ARM Greenspan suggested that we jump into, AND we have power over whether or not to buy an over-priced house.
I could care less who’s fault it is at this point. We are here, so now what? I say let’s get something for ourselves out of this.
May 13, 2009 at 10:13 AM #398482Participant[quote=barnaby33]Um Rt.66 it was the middle class that got us into this. There is plenty of blame to go around. It goes around to everyone. Lots of people (hence the middle class) have very little understanding of how the world even works
You can’t blame the greedy bankers, the senators, the appraisers blah blah blah, without looking in the mirror. You get the govt and regulations you vote for and are worthy of. While I agree with Karl more than I disagree Populism is not the answer. Convincing your friends/family/co-workers to vote for legislators who will do the right thing despite short term pain is.
Josh[/quote]I disagree. Do you really think WE get to choose who gets into office? Even when we think we have a choice and pick a winner they always end up being the same old self-serving (or should I say banker serving) politicians.
No, we have little power over that right now, but we have lots of power over whether or not we continue to pay on that ARM Greenspan suggested that we jump into, AND we have power over whether or not to buy an over-priced house.
I could care less who’s fault it is at this point. We are here, so now what? I say let’s get something for ourselves out of this.
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