Save the middle class! This is our chance.

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[quote=carlsbadworker][quote=flu]
Um… Chairman Mao is rolling in his grave now…I think even China admits (*ok, almost admits, because they never admit anything wrong*) the Cultural Revolution was a mistake.

And last time i checked, the disparity between the peasants in China and the ultra wealthy was pretty big….
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Yes, but get the timeline straight. The wealth disparity happens AFTER they concluded the cultrual revolution was a mistake and started economical reforms.

Also, I too consider that the Cultural Revolution is a mistake. Just like no matter how outrageous we are toward the bankers, it is better to have a few millionaires than everyone earning minimal wages. But if you think revolution does not create more equal society initially, you’d be wrong. But equal society is not a better society.

And here is a good reference to read:
http://www.american.com/archive/2007/may-june-magazine-contents/the-upside-of-income-inequality%5B/quote%5D

Dude, I talk to plenty of people who grew up during the cultural revolution. Common theme was, it doesn’t matter if everyone is the same if everyone is poor. It sucks. If there is no incentive to distinguish oneself for say being a CEO, doctor, or etc from say someone that work at McD’s, what’s really what motivation do humans (who have a propensity to be lazy) to be better than someone who doesn’t do the same thing and get paid relatively the same.

If the socialist system works so well, why are countries like China ditching such “equality for everyone” from which they have been operating from for decades in exchange for the very same market systems and capitalist systems here that so many americans these days have contempt for?

It just is disturbing that on one hand we have China, engrained in socialism for decades as a backward nation, gradually embracing capitalism….Here on the other hand, we have the U.S. gradually embracing socialism in parallel with our country’s decline. I wonder how things are going to look 10 years from now.

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Meanwhile, capitalist sytems with a high degree of socialism — such as the Scandanavian countries — have some of the highest scores in the world on the quality of life scale.

We can debate Capitalism vs. Socialism for eternity. The debate recycles itself on this board every other thread it seems. Why not take the best of both worlds and go with something new?

If you ask me, a big problem with this country is that we’ve devolved into a nation of Dualists. Capitalism or socialism? Rep or Dem? Taxes or no taxes? “You’re either with us or against us.” These black and white choices at the extremes are the realm of the intellectually lazy and have no basis in reality — the world is not in black and white.

Perhaps the flip in the systems of the US and China simply represents the two systems meeting somewhere in the middle — a symbiotic equalibrium representing the best of both philosophies.

[afx114]

Meanwhile, capitalist sytems with a high degree of socialism — such as the Scandanavian countries — have some of the highest scores in the world on the quality of life scale.

We can debate Capitalism vs. Socialism for eternity. The debate recycles itself on this board every other thread it seems. Why not take the best of both worlds and go with something new?

If you ask me, a big problem with this country is that we’ve devolved into a nation of Dualists. Capitalism or socialism? Rep or Dem? Taxes or no taxes? “You’re either with us or against us.” These black and white choices at the extremes are the realm of the intellectually lazy and have no basis in reality — the world is not in black and white.

Perhaps the flip in the systems of the US and China simply represents the two systems meeting somewhere in the middle — a symbiotic equalibrium representing the best of both philosophies.

[afx114]

Meanwhile, capitalist sytems with a high degree of socialism — such as the Scandanavian countries — have some of the highest scores in the world on the quality of life scale.

We can debate Capitalism vs. Socialism for eternity. The debate recycles itself on this board every other thread it seems. Why not take the best of both worlds and go with something new?

If you ask me, a big problem with this country is that we’ve devolved into a nation of Dualists. Capitalism or socialism? Rep or Dem? Taxes or no taxes? “You’re either with us or against us.” These black and white choices at the extremes are the realm of the intellectually lazy and have no basis in reality — the world is not in black and white.

Perhaps the flip in the systems of the US and China simply represents the two systems meeting somewhere in the middle — a symbiotic equalibrium representing the best of both philosophies.

[afx114]

Meanwhile, capitalist sytems with a high degree of socialism — such as the Scandanavian countries — have some of the highest scores in the world on the quality of life scale.

We can debate Capitalism vs. Socialism for eternity. The debate recycles itself on this board every other thread it seems. Why not take the best of both worlds and go with something new?

If you ask me, a big problem with this country is that we’ve devolved into a nation of Dualists. Capitalism or socialism? Rep or Dem? Taxes or no taxes? “You’re either with us or against us.” These black and white choices at the extremes are the realm of the intellectually lazy and have no basis in reality — the world is not in black and white.

Perhaps the flip in the systems of the US and China simply represents the two systems meeting somewhere in the middle — a symbiotic equalibrium representing the best of both philosophies.

[afx114]

Meanwhile, capitalist sytems with a high degree of socialism — such as the Scandanavian countries — have some of the highest scores in the world on the quality of life scale.

We can debate Capitalism vs. Socialism for eternity. The debate recycles itself on this board every other thread it seems. Why not take the best of both worlds and go with something new?

If you ask me, a big problem with this country is that we’ve devolved into a nation of Dualists. Capitalism or socialism? Rep or Dem? Taxes or no taxes? “You’re either with us or against us.” These black and white choices at the extremes are the realm of the intellectually lazy and have no basis in reality — the world is not in black and white.

Perhaps the flip in the systems of the US and China simply represents the two systems meeting somewhere in the middle — a symbiotic equalibrium representing the best of both philosophies.

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Usury = $250k 30 year mortgage @ 5% = $1342.05 monthly = $233,138.00 in interest alone.

@ 6% = $1498.88 monthly = $274,608.00 in interest paid to the bankers by one person/family for one purchase = debt servitude/slavery

VS

$100k 10 year mortgage @ 5% = $1110.21 monthly = $33,225.20 in interest = reasonable

[Rt.66]

Usury = $250k 30 year mortgage @ 5% = $1342.05 monthly = $233,138.00 in interest alone.

@ 6% = $1498.88 monthly = $274,608.00 in interest paid to the bankers by one person/family for one purchase = debt servitude/slavery

VS

$100k 10 year mortgage @ 5% = $1110.21 monthly = $33,225.20 in interest = reasonable

[Rt.66]

Usury = $250k 30 year mortgage @ 5% = $1342.05 monthly = $233,138.00 in interest alone.

@ 6% = $1498.88 monthly = $274,608.00 in interest paid to the bankers by one person/family for one purchase = debt servitude/slavery

VS

$100k 10 year mortgage @ 5% = $1110.21 monthly = $33,225.20 in interest = reasonable

[Rt.66]

Usury = $250k 30 year mortgage @ 5% = $1342.05 monthly = $233,138.00 in interest alone.

@ 6% = $1498.88 monthly = $274,608.00 in interest paid to the bankers by one person/family for one purchase = debt servitude/slavery

VS

$100k 10 year mortgage @ 5% = $1110.21 monthly = $33,225.20 in interest = reasonable

[Rt.66]

Usury = $250k 30 year mortgage @ 5% = $1342.05 monthly = $233,138.00 in interest alone.

@ 6% = $1498.88 monthly = $274,608.00 in interest paid to the bankers by one person/family for one purchase = debt servitude/slavery

VS

$100k 10 year mortgage @ 5% = $1110.21 monthly = $33,225.20 in interest = reasonable

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[quote=NeetaT] I know how to save the middle class, make social security optional. [/quote]

I voted for this one!!!!

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[quote=NeetaT] I know how to save the middle class, make social security optional. [/quote]

I voted for this one!!!!

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[quote=NeetaT] I know how to save the middle class, make social security optional. [/quote]

I voted for this one!!!!

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[quote=NeetaT] I know how to save the middle class, make social security optional. [/quote]

I voted for this one!!!!

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