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[quote UCGal]
Isn’t Android based on Linux? You’d be hard pressed to say a cell phone isn’t embedded.
[/quote]
Yep..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29

[quote UCGal]
I work in embedded programming… I see products by our company and our competitors with Linux every day. (I work on vxwords stuff, though).
[/quote]
Also some home routers use Linux. The gov likes Linux on security related stuff.. because the source code for everything can be inspected.

[Coronita]

[quote=ucodegen][quote UCGal]
Isn’t Android based on Linux? You’d be hard pressed to say a cell phone isn’t embedded.
[/quote]
Yep..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29

[quote UCGal]
I work in embedded programming… I see products by our company and our competitors with Linux every day. (I work on vxwords stuff, though).
[/quote]
Also some home routers use Linux. The gov likes Linux on security related stuff.. because the source code for everything can be inspected.[/quote]

Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).

[Coronita]

[quote=ucodegen][quote UCGal]
Isn’t Android based on Linux? You’d be hard pressed to say a cell phone isn’t embedded.
[/quote]
Yep..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29

[quote UCGal]
I work in embedded programming… I see products by our company and our competitors with Linux every day. (I work on vxwords stuff, though).
[/quote]
Also some home routers use Linux. The gov likes Linux on security related stuff.. because the source code for everything can be inspected.[/quote]

Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).

[Coronita]

[quote=ucodegen][quote UCGal]
Isn’t Android based on Linux? You’d be hard pressed to say a cell phone isn’t embedded.
[/quote]
Yep..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29

[quote UCGal]
I work in embedded programming… I see products by our company and our competitors with Linux every day. (I work on vxwords stuff, though).
[/quote]
Also some home routers use Linux. The gov likes Linux on security related stuff.. because the source code for everything can be inspected.[/quote]

Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).

[Coronita]

[quote=ucodegen][quote UCGal]
Isn’t Android based on Linux? You’d be hard pressed to say a cell phone isn’t embedded.
[/quote]
Yep..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29

[quote UCGal]
I work in embedded programming… I see products by our company and our competitors with Linux every day. (I work on vxwords stuff, though).
[/quote]
Also some home routers use Linux. The gov likes Linux on security related stuff.. because the source code for everything can be inspected.[/quote]

Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).

[Coronita]

[quote=ucodegen][quote UCGal]
Isn’t Android based on Linux? You’d be hard pressed to say a cell phone isn’t embedded.
[/quote]
Yep..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29

[quote UCGal]
I work in embedded programming… I see products by our company and our competitors with Linux every day. (I work on vxwords stuff, though).
[/quote]
Also some home routers use Linux. The gov likes Linux on security related stuff.. because the source code for everything can be inspected.[/quote]

Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).

[meadandale]

[quote=flu]
Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).[/quote]

well, considering we are hacking the android linux kernel for a custom application I’d have to disagree with you…

[meadandale]

[quote=flu]
Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).[/quote]

well, considering we are hacking the android linux kernel for a custom application I’d have to disagree with you…

[meadandale]

[quote=flu]
Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).[/quote]

well, considering we are hacking the android linux kernel for a custom application I’d have to disagree with you…

[meadandale]

[quote=flu]
Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).[/quote]

well, considering we are hacking the android linux kernel for a custom application I’d have to disagree with you…

[meadandale]

[quote=flu]
Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).[/quote]

well, considering we are hacking the android linux kernel for a custom application I’d have to disagree with you…

[Coronita]

[quote=meadandale][quote=flu]
Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).[/quote]

well, considering we are hacking the android linux kernel for a custom application I’d have to disagree with you…[/quote]

You’re not alone in hacking the kernel you know, particularly we’re trying to put it in devices other than phones…. But starting in 2.6.33, Android drivers/etc technically isn’t being maintained along with the main line due to numerous deviations from the main line. It was dropped in Feb 2010… It was a minor technicality I was trying to refer to….Froyo is 2.6.32 based…I believe the plan is to support Gingerbread on 2.6.33 or 34, with Google as maintainer. There’s some tweaking that needs to be done to get some things written on the android derivative work, as google has now branched off from the mainline. There really isn’t much cooperation going on between google and folks developing the main line.

So there’s some fragmentation going on here. Also, it’s going to get interesting with google’s strategy of targeting gingerbread for high end stuff while maintain a lower end froyo. Separate issue.

And technically, Android isn’t Java either. It uses the Java language to compile into a bytecode for a dalvik vm, but not a jdk and clearly the byte code isn’t compatible. (In hindsight that was the smartest thing to have done with Oracle now owning sun and butching the entire java space)…

And lastly, if you really think about it, Android really isn’t “open source”…Because if it were, you would have access to Gingerbread source right now, without a need to have a privilege to get early access.

Anyway, x86 ports are pretty interesting these days too.

[Coronita]

[quote=meadandale][quote=flu]
Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).[/quote]

well, considering we are hacking the android linux kernel for a custom application I’d have to disagree with you…[/quote]

You’re not alone in hacking the kernel you know, particularly we’re trying to put it in devices other than phones…. But starting in 2.6.33, Android drivers/etc technically isn’t being maintained along with the main line due to numerous deviations from the main line. It was dropped in Feb 2010… It was a minor technicality I was trying to refer to….Froyo is 2.6.32 based…I believe the plan is to support Gingerbread on 2.6.33 or 34, with Google as maintainer. There’s some tweaking that needs to be done to get some things written on the android derivative work, as google has now branched off from the mainline. There really isn’t much cooperation going on between google and folks developing the main line.

So there’s some fragmentation going on here. Also, it’s going to get interesting with google’s strategy of targeting gingerbread for high end stuff while maintain a lower end froyo. Separate issue.

And technically, Android isn’t Java either. It uses the Java language to compile into a bytecode for a dalvik vm, but not a jdk and clearly the byte code isn’t compatible. (In hindsight that was the smartest thing to have done with Oracle now owning sun and butching the entire java space)…

And lastly, if you really think about it, Android really isn’t “open source”…Because if it were, you would have access to Gingerbread source right now, without a need to have a privilege to get early access.

Anyway, x86 ports are pretty interesting these days too.

[Coronita]

[quote=meadandale][quote=flu]
Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).[/quote]

well, considering we are hacking the android linux kernel for a custom application I’d have to disagree with you…[/quote]

You’re not alone in hacking the kernel you know, particularly we’re trying to put it in devices other than phones…. But starting in 2.6.33, Android drivers/etc technically isn’t being maintained along with the main line due to numerous deviations from the main line. It was dropped in Feb 2010… It was a minor technicality I was trying to refer to….Froyo is 2.6.32 based…I believe the plan is to support Gingerbread on 2.6.33 or 34, with Google as maintainer. There’s some tweaking that needs to be done to get some things written on the android derivative work, as google has now branched off from the mainline. There really isn’t much cooperation going on between google and folks developing the main line.

So there’s some fragmentation going on here. Also, it’s going to get interesting with google’s strategy of targeting gingerbread for high end stuff while maintain a lower end froyo. Separate issue.

And technically, Android isn’t Java either. It uses the Java language to compile into a bytecode for a dalvik vm, but not a jdk and clearly the byte code isn’t compatible. (In hindsight that was the smartest thing to have done with Oracle now owning sun and butching the entire java space)…

And lastly, if you really think about it, Android really isn’t “open source”…Because if it were, you would have access to Gingerbread source right now, without a need to have a privilege to get early access.

Anyway, x86 ports are pretty interesting these days too.

[Coronita]

[quote=meadandale][quote=flu]
Actually, technically, android is not linux anymore (it’s a technicality…Let’s just say it’s linux-ish).[/quote]

well, considering we are hacking the android linux kernel for a custom application I’d have to disagree with you…[/quote]

You’re not alone in hacking the kernel you know, particularly we’re trying to put it in devices other than phones…. But starting in 2.6.33, Android drivers/etc technically isn’t being maintained along with the main line due to numerous deviations from the main line. It was dropped in Feb 2010… It was a minor technicality I was trying to refer to….Froyo is 2.6.32 based…I believe the plan is to support Gingerbread on 2.6.33 or 34, with Google as maintainer. There’s some tweaking that needs to be done to get some things written on the android derivative work, as google has now branched off from the mainline. There really isn’t much cooperation going on between google and folks developing the main line.

So there’s some fragmentation going on here. Also, it’s going to get interesting with google’s strategy of targeting gingerbread for high end stuff while maintain a lower end froyo. Separate issue.

And technically, Android isn’t Java either. It uses the Java language to compile into a bytecode for a dalvik vm, but not a jdk and clearly the byte code isn’t compatible. (In hindsight that was the smartest thing to have done with Oracle now owning sun and butching the entire java space)…

And lastly, if you really think about it, Android really isn’t “open source”…Because if it were, you would have access to Gingerbread source right now, without a need to have a privilege to get early access.

Anyway, x86 ports are pretty interesting these days too.

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