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April 26, 2012 at 10:21 AM #742271April 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM #742273
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Participant[quote=markmax33][quote=SK in CV][quote=markmax33]
I’ll go ahead and predict the RNC delegate count today for everyone. Mitt Romney wins 1450 delegates and Ron Paul wins 700ish. If Paul can carry Texas it’s going to be much closer.[/quote]
What on earth makes you think that Paul has a chance to win in Texas? He’s not terribly popular there. I’ve only seen one poll since Santorum dropped out and Paul still barely gets into double digit support. His approval/disapproval is still negative (compared to both Romney and Gingrich being positive). I know it’s still 6 weeks away, and things could change. And he may pick up a few delegates. But win Texas? He doesn’t have a chance.[/quote]
I don’t know what your source is but Paul is beating Obama and Romney is not:
markmax, you’ve ignored the previous poster’s point and responded with an irrelevant non sequitur. Well done!
April 26, 2012 at 1:20 PM #742287SK in CV
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I don’t know what your source is but Paul is beating Obama and Romney is not:I’m reasonably sure that Obama is not running in the Texas republican primary. Romney is. It may be over by then, but if it’s not, Paul will be lucky to get 20% of the votes. As I said, Texans are not terribly fond of Ron Paul.
That Rasmussen poll is an outlier. Daily tracking polls are highly volatile. And Obama will not be running against Paul, he’ll be running against Romney.
April 26, 2012 at 4:32 PM #742291markmax33
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I don’t know what your source is but Paul is beating Obama and Romney is not:I’m reasonably sure that Obama is not running in the Texas republican primary. Romney is. It may be over by then, but if it’s not, Paul will be lucky to get 20% of the votes. As I said, Texans are not terribly fond of Ron Paul.
That Rasmussen poll is an outlier. Daily tracking polls are highly volatile. And Obama will not be running against Paul, he’ll be running against Romney.[/quote]
His post doesn’t really have much merit. I don’t think there have been a ton of polls in Texas, and if Texas hates Paul, which really makes no sense, why did they elect him 12 times? If Romney would lose anywhere it would probably be Texas. I didn’t say it was likely, I just said if.
You all assumed Paul didn’t win in Iowa too and he won there. Obviously there is more to this than you guys are aware of.
April 26, 2012 at 5:42 PM #742299sdrealtor
ParticipantNews Flash! RP is a congressman in one of the smaller districts in Texas and not a major metropolitan one. There are 32 districts in Texas. Winning a single small congressional district does not equate to statewide support.
April 27, 2012 at 7:48 AM #742315Anonymous
Guest[quote=sdrealtor]News Flash! RP is a congressman in one of the smaller districts in Texas and not a major metropolitan one. There are 32 districts in Texas. Winning a single small congressional district does not equate to statewide support.[/quote]
You mean Nancy Pelosi isn’t loved by all of California?
One minor nit though; congressional districts are all the same size. There really is no big and small.
It is true that the preferences across a state as big as Texas vary quite a bit. But it seems many Ron Paul supporters don’t let reality influence their beliefs.
April 27, 2012 at 12:17 PM #742328Guest[quote=pri_dk][quote=sdrealtor]News Flash! RP is a congressman in one of the smaller districts in Texas and not a major metropolitan one. There are 32 districts in Texas. Winning a single small congressional district does not equate to statewide support.[/quote]
You mean Nancy Pelosi isn’t loved by all of California?
One minor nit though; congressional districts are all the same size. There really is no big and small.
It is true that the preferences across a state as big as Texas vary quite a bit. But it seems many Ron Paul supporters don’t let reality influence their beliefs.[/quote]
No Ron Paul supporters let facts influence beliefs. Pri_dk listens to the media. Most of the rest of you would have never believed he was going to win 8 or 9 states, and now that it likely to happen you keep marginalizing things. How have you changed your flawed way of thinking?
The Republian base certainly isn’t rallying around Romney as they have rallied around 10 other people so far. I didn’t say it was likely, but it’s not out of the question either like you all post.
April 27, 2012 at 3:08 PM #742358Participant[quote=markmax33]The Republian base certainly isn’t rallying around Romney as they have rallied around 10 other people so far. I didn’t say it was likely, but it’s not out of the question either like you all post.[/quote]
This is based on facts? Romney has won more delegates. He’s had more weeks in front on the national polls than any other candidate. Garnered 50% more actual votes than his closest competitor and 4 times the number of votes as Ron Paul.
So which of the 10 others did they rally around to a level greater than Romney? The facts say none.
He’ll be the least popular Republican nominee of the last 50 years. But he’s also the most popular Republican candidate THIS year. A pretty low bar, but he is the one that will be on the ballot in November.
April 27, 2012 at 3:12 PM #742359Guest[quote=SK in CV][quote=markmax33]The Republian base certainly isn’t rallying around Romney as they have rallied around 10 other people so far. I didn’t say it was likely, but it’s not out of the question either like you all post.[/quote]
This is based on facts? Romney has won more delegates. He’s had more weeks in front on the national polls than any other candidate. Garnered 50% more actual votes than his closest competitor and 4 times the number of votes as Ron Paul.
So which of the 10 others did they rally around to a level greater than Romney? The facts say none.
He’ll be the least popular Republican nominee of the last 50 years. But he’s also the most popular Republican candidate THIS year. A pretty low bar, but he is the one that will be on the ballot in November.[/quote]
I merely said the republican base still has a time to rally around another person as they have 10 times in this election. They are supporting Romney not because they like him, it’s because the rest disqualified themselves for one reason or another. Paul hasn’t done that. I’m not saying it’s likely but to say Texas could decide to say screw Romney is ridiculous.
The BASE is not rallied around Romney, the BASE is not going out and voting.
April 27, 2012 at 3:38 PM #742365Participant[quote=markmax33][quote=SK in CV][quote=markmax33]The Republian base certainly isn’t rallying around Romney as they have rallied around 10 other people so far. I didn’t say it was likely, but it’s not out of the question either like you all post.[/quote]
I merely said the republican base still has a time to rally around another person as they have 10 times in this election. They are supporting Romney not because they like him, it’s because the rest disqualified themselves for one reason or another. Paul hasn’t done that. I’m not saying it’s likely but to say Texas could decide to say screw Romney is ridiculous.
The BASE is not rallied around Romney, the BASE is not going out and voting.[/quote]
I think the bolded parts above pretty much prove you said what you said. And then didn’t say what you said you said.
Romney’s support among republican voters is now at around 56%. The other 44% is the base?
April 27, 2012 at 3:45 PM #742366Guest[quote=SK in CV][quote=markmax33][quote=SK in CV][quote=markmax33]The Republian base certainly isn’t rallying around Romney as they have rallied around 10 other people so far. I didn’t say it was likely, but it’s not out of the question either like you all post.[/quote]
I merely said the republican base still has a time to rally around another person as they have 10 times in this election. They are supporting Romney not because they like him, it’s because the rest disqualified themselves for one reason or another. Paul hasn’t done that. I’m not saying it’s likely but to say Texas could decide to say screw Romney is ridiculous.
The BASE is not rallied around Romney, the BASE is not going out and voting.[/quote]
I think the bolded parts above pretty much prove you said what you said. And then didn’t say what you said you said.
Romney’s support among republican voters is now at around 56%. The other 44% is the base?[/quote]
Projected Republican Voters! Bush 2 won because he energized the republican base and got them out to vote, he didn’t get votes from the middle. The polls only include projected voters. Santorum had the religous/old school base energized that Romney can’t energize. Your numbers only include projected voters. Republicans will stay at home if Romney wins and he will lose easily.
April 27, 2012 at 4:12 PM #742371Participant[quote=markmax33]
Projected Republican Voters! Bush 2 won because he energized the republican base and got them out to vote, he didn’t get votes from the middle. The polls only include projected voters. Santorum had the religous/old school base energized that Romney can’t energize. Your numbers only include projected voters. Republicans will stay at home if Romney wins and he will lose easily.[/quote]I’m sorry, I don’t know how i missed that. Of course, it’s the NON voters that determine who wins elections.
April 27, 2012 at 4:20 PM #742373Guestmm33 brings out the sarcasm in the best of us.
April 27, 2012 at 4:25 PM #742374Guest[quote=SK in CV][quote=markmax33]
Projected Republican Voters! Bush 2 won because he energized the republican base and got them out to vote, he didn’t get votes from the middle. The polls only include projected voters. Santorum had the religous/old school base energized that Romney can’t energize. Your numbers only include projected voters. Republicans will stay at home if Romney wins and he will lose easily.[/quote]I’m sorry, I don’t know how i missed that. Of course, it’s the NON voters that determine who wins elections.[/quote]
Exactly! The Republican base doesn’t care about Romney. The other 10 people energized a different demographic than Romeny is energizing. They might wither away and go to sleep this election but they were the sole reason Santorum won any states. They wanted the Anti-Romney.
April 27, 2012 at 4:28 PM #742375Participant[quote=markmax33][quote=SK in CV][quote=markmax33]
Projected Republican Voters! Bush 2 won because he energized the republican base and got them out to vote, he didn’t get votes from the middle. The polls only include projected voters. Santorum had the religous/old school base energized that Romney can’t energize. Your numbers only include projected voters. Republicans will stay at home if Romney wins and he will lose easily.[/quote]I’m sorry, I don’t know how i missed that. Of course, it’s the NON voters that determine who wins elections.[/quote]
Exactly! The Republican base doesn’t care about Romney. The other 10 people energized a different demographic than Romeny is energizing. They might wither away and go to sleep this election but they were the sole reason Santorum won any states. They wanted the Anti-Romney.[/quote]
Every reader here is now dumber for having read that.
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