Reasons I cannot vote for Trump

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=flyer]The politics of this election are really sad to watch, with so many voters desperately seeking a candidate whom they believe can actually save their lives.

I think they forget (or maybe don’t know) that we have three branches of government, and by virtue of that fact, many of the promises made will simply disappear like vapor when subjected to the legislative process.

I wouldn’t bet my future or my family’s future on any political candidate, but it will be interesting to see what any of them can actually deliver after the election.[/quote]

The Republicans are nominating Trump. The Democrats aren’t nominating Sanders. Even f you think Trump and Sanders are equivalents, only on opposite sides, you have to admit that the “desperately seeking” part is much stronger on the right.

Life is all about degrees of quality. We may be all crazy, but some people are more nuts than others.

[FlyerInHi]

I think ideas and what side of history you choose are important. If you look at the map, you see the difference between city and country.

Rich Republicans like Trump live in cosmopolitan cities but the base is in the country.

Trump won’t win NYC because cosmopolitan cities are progressive. London just elected a Muslim mayor of Pakistani background.

It will be fun to watch the battle of ideas. May the best side win.

Edit:
Timely article about the battle of ideas rural vs urban Texas.

[flyer]

Edit:
Ideology and history are interesting discussions to pursue with regard to politics, but the reality of life is that many Americans are one paycheck away from the street, per the article below, and other stats reveal that 70-80% of Americans will never be able to retire.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/most-americans-are-one-paycheck-away-from-the-street-2016-01-06

So, yes, it will be interesting to see if whomever is elected can deliver, or if the desperate masses have simply been manipulated by desperate politicians in exchange for votes. I just can’t imagine which one it will prove to be.

Fortunately, but, most likely, sadly, the stats will, as always, provide solid proof of how well the campaign promises pan out for most Americans over the next four years or so. Tick tock.

[FlyerInHi]

Flyer, imagine if social security, and Medicare, great achievements of Democrats, did not exist. The situation would be more dire for Americans.

This article might be an elitist analysis of trump republicans who see him as a savior

I learned two words: atavistic and pugilistic

After seething at Washington for so long, hundreds or thousands of miles from the capital, many of these voters now see Mr. Trump as a kind of savior. Even if he does not detail his policies, even if his language strikes them as harsh sometimes, his supporters thrill more to his plain-spoken slogans like “Make America Great Again” than to what they see as the cautious and poll-tested policy speeches of Mr. Ryan and other Washington Republicans.

Bearish, this one is for you. I think people with good pensions, paid for houses and toys are in the minority. Maybe the local car dealer, or plumbing company owner…. But not all the brethrens.

Alongside the turbulent economy were signs of something more profound plaguing blue-collar white communities, which have increasingly become core Republican constituencies: an increase in children born to single parents, higher rates of addiction and suicide, and shortened average life spans.

[FlyerInHi]

Here’s what a top economist said about his experience on a plane seated next to an ignorant passenger. Apparently math and Arabic are the same thing. Low education, indeed.

“What might prevent an epidemic of paranoia? It is hard not to recognize in this incident, the ethos of [Donald] Trump’s voting base,”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2016/05/07/ivy-league-economist-interrogated-for-doing-math-on-american-airlines-flight/

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Here’s what a top economist said about his experience on a plane seated next to an ignorant passenger. Apparently math and Arabic are the same thing. Low education, indeed.

“What might prevent an epidemic of paranoia? It is hard not to recognize in this incident, the ethos of [Donald] Trump’s voting base,”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2016/05/07/ivy-league-economist-interrogated-for-doing-math-on-american-airlines-flight/%5B/quote%5D

If the economists had been an Arab poet he’d be on the no fly list.

[flyer]

We all have different ideas about what constitutes great political decisions/achievements historically, and, although I don’t want to argue those points, suffice it to say that, a thinking person realizes there have been pros and cons to each and every one of them. Then, of course, some would say the pros outweigh the cons, but, that again, would also be a matter of opinion.

That said, even though neither I, my family, anyone we know, nor, I’m guessing, most Piggs, will be noticeably affected by whomever is elected President (until now, we’ve always voted for the candidate we felt represented the lesser of the evils) and really never have been, it is still difficult to watch the diabolical manipulation of voters being exhibited by the candidates on both sides. (Frankly, they all look and sound insane to me every time they speak.)

Politicians know there are more desperate voters due to uncertainty about the future (even some among the top 20% for various reasons) than ever before in history, and they have struck political gold by exploiting and playing upon the various fears of their individual base. Great for them–sad for voters–who actually believe their promises will change their lives.

However it all turns out, it will be fun, and very interesting to fact check the, for lack of a better word–winner–when their reign begins.

[Anonymous]

You live in San Diego, you are a pilot, and you say that nobody you know will be affected by whomever is elected president?

My son came home from school just a few weeks ago and told me one if his classmate’s father was killed in Iraq.

It’s been a few years. News of that sort used to be commonplace in our corner of the word.

I don’t think you understand what presidents do.

[flyer]

I was focused and speaking from a financial/economic perspective–since that seems to be the emphasis of the empty rhetoric we are enduring from both sides–and the way candidates are reeling in desperate voters. Although my statement was clear in my mind, I can understand how it may have seemed a broad generalization with unintended inferences.

My Dad was a Naval Admiral as well as a real estate investor/developer (that’s how our entire family got into the business early in life–aviation came after college for me) among other things, so, yes, coming from a military family, I understand and appreciate your point.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=flyer]Then, of course, some would say the pros outweigh the cons, but, that again, would also be a matter of opinion.[/quote]

Not all opinions are equal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/03/10/the-science-of-protecting-peoples-feelings-why-we-pretend-all-opinions-are-equal/

[FlyerInHi]

Trump (beautiful wall) and Sanders (political revolution) have big proposals. But Hillary Clinton is a policy wonk. Her plan is to incrementally improve what we have.

http://www.npr.org/2016/01/30/464762073/clinton-runs-as-wonk-in-chief-trying-to-win-hearts-with-plans

[flyer]

Per the article:

“We propose that those with limited knowledge in a domain suffer from a dual burden: Not only do they reach mistaken conclusions and make regrettable errors, but their incompetence robs them of the ability to realize it.”

Since the wealth gap is such an important issue in the current political arena, and affects such a huge percentage of the population, perhaps we could, by extension, take this logic a step further to help us understand if the same incompetence related to opinions plays a role in financial incompetence.
Per:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/17/wealth-gap-upper-middle-income/

Now that would be interesting.

[no_such_reality]

Research that claims a single person making $66K is upper income calls into question if they understand how wealth works or if their just torturing data to support their hypothesis.

Granted if you looked at a more raw measure the problem likely, IMHO, be actually worse.

As for the equality article, trust and expertise isn’t established quickly. It too has a flaw in that none have expertise. One performs better, how much better and how noticeably better isn’t disclosed.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=flyer]I was focused and speaking from a financial/economic perspective–since that seems to be the emphasis of the empty rhetoric we are enduring from both sides–and the way candidates are reeling in desperate voters. Although my statement was clear in my mind, I can understand how it may have seemed a broad generalization with unintended inferences.

My Dad was a Naval Admiral as well as a real estate investor/developer (that’s how our entire family got into the business early in life–aviation came after college for me) among other things, so, yes, coming from a military family, I understand and appreciate your point.[/quote]

Nothing will change. I’ve been recently listening to a Great Courses lecture series on u.s. involvement in the middle east, 1914 to 9/11. Basically, whoever is in charge will try to control Arab states one way or the other, and the West will to to keep the Arabs in line. I’m also taking a car commute class on Bach.

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=flyer]

That said, even though neither I, my family, anyone we know, nor, I’m guessing, most Piggs, will be noticeably affected by whomever is elected President

[/quote]

If I were you, I would be very careful in making such assumptions flyer.

What you are saying is true if a conventional politician like Clinton, Romney or Obama are elected because they are basically sane people.

When you have someone like Trump out there, you need be careful because if you like it or not our propsparity, real estate portfolios, stock investments, economy etc. are highly dependent on the faith that investors have that adults are running the show in the US. Take that confidence away and the system can collapse very fast.

So if I were you, I would be very worried about Trump’s first statement that he will renegotiate US debt when economy goes bad. Then two days later he basically says he will inflate his way out of debt. If the treasury markets starts believing such rhetoric (they are not believing it yet), the interest rates will go up fast and there goes all the real estate/stock/bond values.

If I am not saying this is what is going to happen. I am saying that it is naive to believe that we can put anybody out there and it will not make absolutely any difference to us!

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-default-print-money-2016-5

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