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February 16, 2009 at 10:02 PM #347806February 16, 2009 at 10:47 PM #347856HLSParticipant
[quote=Sandiagon] you will get better deal with direct lenders like Wellsfargo, Bofa, etc… Direct lenders never charge origination fee.
[/quote]The above statement is ignorant and incorrect.
You will NOT “always” get a better deal from a direct lender. You will get a higher rate, and higher monthly payment for the life of the loan, that can cost you tens of thousands of dollars over the life of a loan for not paying an origination fee.
Banks are nothing more than mortgage brokers, except banks have fewer options.
Shopping around is fine, but have a clue what you are shopping for.
It’s often a foolish borrower that falls for a no point loan, esp at today’s rates.
For the OP, it’s impossible to know what closing costs are without knowing if you want to buy the rate down, what the title & escrow costs will be, and whether you are required to have an impound account for taxes and insurance.
It also depends on loan amount. Total closing costs of around 2% for a loan up to $400K, and bit less than 2% above that.
With a no point loan your cost should be less.
What is your rate with a no point loan ??February 16, 2009 at 10:47 PM #348105HLSParticipant[quote=Sandiagon] you will get better deal with direct lenders like Wellsfargo, Bofa, etc… Direct lenders never charge origination fee.
[/quote]The above statement is ignorant and incorrect.
You will NOT “always” get a better deal from a direct lender. You will get a higher rate, and higher monthly payment for the life of the loan, that can cost you tens of thousands of dollars over the life of a loan for not paying an origination fee.
Banks are nothing more than mortgage brokers, except banks have fewer options.
Shopping around is fine, but have a clue what you are shopping for.
It’s often a foolish borrower that falls for a no point loan, esp at today’s rates.
For the OP, it’s impossible to know what closing costs are without knowing if you want to buy the rate down, what the title & escrow costs will be, and whether you are required to have an impound account for taxes and insurance.
It also depends on loan amount. Total closing costs of around 2% for a loan up to $400K, and bit less than 2% above that.
With a no point loan your cost should be less.
What is your rate with a no point loan ??February 16, 2009 at 10:47 PM #347535HLSParticipant[quote=Sandiagon] you will get better deal with direct lenders like Wellsfargo, Bofa, etc… Direct lenders never charge origination fee.
[/quote]The above statement is ignorant and incorrect.
You will NOT “always” get a better deal from a direct lender. You will get a higher rate, and higher monthly payment for the life of the loan, that can cost you tens of thousands of dollars over the life of a loan for not paying an origination fee.
Banks are nothing more than mortgage brokers, except banks have fewer options.
Shopping around is fine, but have a clue what you are shopping for.
It’s often a foolish borrower that falls for a no point loan, esp at today’s rates.
For the OP, it’s impossible to know what closing costs are without knowing if you want to buy the rate down, what the title & escrow costs will be, and whether you are required to have an impound account for taxes and insurance.
It also depends on loan amount. Total closing costs of around 2% for a loan up to $400K, and bit less than 2% above that.
With a no point loan your cost should be less.
What is your rate with a no point loan ??February 16, 2009 at 10:47 PM #347973HLSParticipant[quote=Sandiagon] you will get better deal with direct lenders like Wellsfargo, Bofa, etc… Direct lenders never charge origination fee.
[/quote]The above statement is ignorant and incorrect.
You will NOT “always” get a better deal from a direct lender. You will get a higher rate, and higher monthly payment for the life of the loan, that can cost you tens of thousands of dollars over the life of a loan for not paying an origination fee.
Banks are nothing more than mortgage brokers, except banks have fewer options.
Shopping around is fine, but have a clue what you are shopping for.
It’s often a foolish borrower that falls for a no point loan, esp at today’s rates.
For the OP, it’s impossible to know what closing costs are without knowing if you want to buy the rate down, what the title & escrow costs will be, and whether you are required to have an impound account for taxes and insurance.
It also depends on loan amount. Total closing costs of around 2% for a loan up to $400K, and bit less than 2% above that.
With a no point loan your cost should be less.
What is your rate with a no point loan ??February 16, 2009 at 10:47 PM #348004HLSParticipant[quote=Sandiagon] you will get better deal with direct lenders like Wellsfargo, Bofa, etc… Direct lenders never charge origination fee.
[/quote]The above statement is ignorant and incorrect.
You will NOT “always” get a better deal from a direct lender. You will get a higher rate, and higher monthly payment for the life of the loan, that can cost you tens of thousands of dollars over the life of a loan for not paying an origination fee.
Banks are nothing more than mortgage brokers, except banks have fewer options.
Shopping around is fine, but have a clue what you are shopping for.
It’s often a foolish borrower that falls for a no point loan, esp at today’s rates.
For the OP, it’s impossible to know what closing costs are without knowing if you want to buy the rate down, what the title & escrow costs will be, and whether you are required to have an impound account for taxes and insurance.
It also depends on loan amount. Total closing costs of around 2% for a loan up to $400K, and bit less than 2% above that.
With a no point loan your cost should be less.
What is your rate with a no point loan ??February 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM #348015SD RealtorParticipantActually the 1% of the purchase price would be a decent quote for someone selling a home, (that is, the sellers side closing costs). For instance, a reasonable template would be as follows:
Sellers side basics –
-split escrow 50/50
-title insurance for buyer
-county transfer tax (1.10 for every 1000)
-homeowners warranty (400)
-NHD and CLUE (100 or so)
-miscellaneous fees for loan payoff
-transaction coordination/doc fees**All the above should total to somewhere between .75-1.0% of the purchase price.
Other costs for sellers to expect –
– Termite inspection
– Remediation and treatment due to termites
– Repairs requested by buyer
– Credits requested by buyerProrations sellers should not ignore –
– Property tax proration
– Mortgage interest proration**************************************************
Buyers side are pretty much all due to your financing fees. Still there are some no brainers.
– Split escrow
– Appraisal (350-375)
– Physical Inspection (350-400)
– Recording fee (50-75)
– Misc doc or transaction coordination fee**Financing fees
– Loan origination fee
– Loan discount points
– Misc fees (underwriting fees/doc fees)**
– Hazard Insurace
– Property taxes
– Title insurance for your lender*********
All in all for buyers I would estimate about 2-3% depending on how much you buy down your loan. Obviously the more you buy it down the more you will pay at closing.
Finally the 1% for sellers is not including large credits that buyers are asking for more and more these days.
February 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM #348115SD RealtorParticipantActually the 1% of the purchase price would be a decent quote for someone selling a home, (that is, the sellers side closing costs). For instance, a reasonable template would be as follows:
Sellers side basics –
-split escrow 50/50
-title insurance for buyer
-county transfer tax (1.10 for every 1000)
-homeowners warranty (400)
-NHD and CLUE (100 or so)
-miscellaneous fees for loan payoff
-transaction coordination/doc fees**All the above should total to somewhere between .75-1.0% of the purchase price.
Other costs for sellers to expect –
– Termite inspection
– Remediation and treatment due to termites
– Repairs requested by buyer
– Credits requested by buyerProrations sellers should not ignore –
– Property tax proration
– Mortgage interest proration**************************************************
Buyers side are pretty much all due to your financing fees. Still there are some no brainers.
– Split escrow
– Appraisal (350-375)
– Physical Inspection (350-400)
– Recording fee (50-75)
– Misc doc or transaction coordination fee**Financing fees
– Loan origination fee
– Loan discount points
– Misc fees (underwriting fees/doc fees)**
– Hazard Insurace
– Property taxes
– Title insurance for your lender*********
All in all for buyers I would estimate about 2-3% depending on how much you buy down your loan. Obviously the more you buy it down the more you will pay at closing.
Finally the 1% for sellers is not including large credits that buyers are asking for more and more these days.
February 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM #347983SD RealtorParticipantActually the 1% of the purchase price would be a decent quote for someone selling a home, (that is, the sellers side closing costs). For instance, a reasonable template would be as follows:
Sellers side basics –
-split escrow 50/50
-title insurance for buyer
-county transfer tax (1.10 for every 1000)
-homeowners warranty (400)
-NHD and CLUE (100 or so)
-miscellaneous fees for loan payoff
-transaction coordination/doc fees**All the above should total to somewhere between .75-1.0% of the purchase price.
Other costs for sellers to expect –
– Termite inspection
– Remediation and treatment due to termites
– Repairs requested by buyer
– Credits requested by buyerProrations sellers should not ignore –
– Property tax proration
– Mortgage interest proration**************************************************
Buyers side are pretty much all due to your financing fees. Still there are some no brainers.
– Split escrow
– Appraisal (350-375)
– Physical Inspection (350-400)
– Recording fee (50-75)
– Misc doc or transaction coordination fee**Financing fees
– Loan origination fee
– Loan discount points
– Misc fees (underwriting fees/doc fees)**
– Hazard Insurace
– Property taxes
– Title insurance for your lender*********
All in all for buyers I would estimate about 2-3% depending on how much you buy down your loan. Obviously the more you buy it down the more you will pay at closing.
Finally the 1% for sellers is not including large credits that buyers are asking for more and more these days.
February 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM #347545SD RealtorParticipantActually the 1% of the purchase price would be a decent quote for someone selling a home, (that is, the sellers side closing costs). For instance, a reasonable template would be as follows:
Sellers side basics –
-split escrow 50/50
-title insurance for buyer
-county transfer tax (1.10 for every 1000)
-homeowners warranty (400)
-NHD and CLUE (100 or so)
-miscellaneous fees for loan payoff
-transaction coordination/doc fees**All the above should total to somewhere between .75-1.0% of the purchase price.
Other costs for sellers to expect –
– Termite inspection
– Remediation and treatment due to termites
– Repairs requested by buyer
– Credits requested by buyerProrations sellers should not ignore –
– Property tax proration
– Mortgage interest proration**************************************************
Buyers side are pretty much all due to your financing fees. Still there are some no brainers.
– Split escrow
– Appraisal (350-375)
– Physical Inspection (350-400)
– Recording fee (50-75)
– Misc doc or transaction coordination fee**Financing fees
– Loan origination fee
– Loan discount points
– Misc fees (underwriting fees/doc fees)**
– Hazard Insurace
– Property taxes
– Title insurance for your lender*********
All in all for buyers I would estimate about 2-3% depending on how much you buy down your loan. Obviously the more you buy it down the more you will pay at closing.
Finally the 1% for sellers is not including large credits that buyers are asking for more and more these days.
February 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM #347866SD RealtorParticipantActually the 1% of the purchase price would be a decent quote for someone selling a home, (that is, the sellers side closing costs). For instance, a reasonable template would be as follows:
Sellers side basics –
-split escrow 50/50
-title insurance for buyer
-county transfer tax (1.10 for every 1000)
-homeowners warranty (400)
-NHD and CLUE (100 or so)
-miscellaneous fees for loan payoff
-transaction coordination/doc fees**All the above should total to somewhere between .75-1.0% of the purchase price.
Other costs for sellers to expect –
– Termite inspection
– Remediation and treatment due to termites
– Repairs requested by buyer
– Credits requested by buyerProrations sellers should not ignore –
– Property tax proration
– Mortgage interest proration**************************************************
Buyers side are pretty much all due to your financing fees. Still there are some no brainers.
– Split escrow
– Appraisal (350-375)
– Physical Inspection (350-400)
– Recording fee (50-75)
– Misc doc or transaction coordination fee**Financing fees
– Loan origination fee
– Loan discount points
– Misc fees (underwriting fees/doc fees)**
– Hazard Insurace
– Property taxes
– Title insurance for your lender*********
All in all for buyers I would estimate about 2-3% depending on how much you buy down your loan. Obviously the more you buy it down the more you will pay at closing.
Finally the 1% for sellers is not including large credits that buyers are asking for more and more these days.
February 25, 2009 at 4:02 PM #354874SanDiegoDaveParticipantHere is an item by item breakdown of closing costs and where the lenders pad in extra for themselves. It’s from 2006. Prices may be different by the same principles apply.
February 25, 2009 at 4:02 PM #355184SanDiegoDaveParticipantHere is an item by item breakdown of closing costs and where the lenders pad in extra for themselves. It’s from 2006. Prices may be different by the same principles apply.
February 25, 2009 at 4:02 PM #355317SanDiegoDaveParticipantHere is an item by item breakdown of closing costs and where the lenders pad in extra for themselves. It’s from 2006. Prices may be different by the same principles apply.
February 25, 2009 at 4:02 PM #355346SanDiegoDaveParticipantHere is an item by item breakdown of closing costs and where the lenders pad in extra for themselves. It’s from 2006. Prices may be different by the same principles apply.
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