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May 17, 2012 at 12:01 PM #743978May 17, 2012 at 12:08 PM #743979sdduuuudeParticipant
[quote=The-Shoveler]Seriously
There is no comparison between anywhere within 50 miles of the city of SD and phoenix,
Once you wake up to 100 degrees cool of the morning for the 30th time that month in phoenix you will be really happy to move to TV even. You will have to trust me on that one.
sdduuud please mark your calendar and spend a few days in September in Phoenix.
It will be unforgettable I promise.[/quote]I spent the first 21 years of my life in Tucson.
I’m 1/2 lizard and visit Phoenix regularly. Would rather have a house like this on a 13,000 sq. ft. lot for $325K in Awatukee than anything for $325K in Poway.I have also lived in Poway for a year.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2106-E-Taxidea-Way-Phoenix-AZ-85048/8160340_zpid/
May 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM #743980sdduuuudeParticipantJust for fun, do a search in Redfin with a min house size of 3000 sq. ft and a min lot size of 1/2 acre and a max price of $325.
May 17, 2012 at 12:48 PM #743986bearishgurlParticipantGlad to see CE can finally use spell check. All I can now say to him, based upon a multitude of his posts is, “Paranoia will destroy ya.” ;=]
May 17, 2012 at 12:48 PM #743987The-ShovelerParticipantOK to each their own.
You could probably find something close to that in TV or east county (maybe valley center) for around the same amount.
Me I would still choose that over PhoenixMay 17, 2012 at 1:05 PM #743988bearishgurlParticipant[quote=sdduuuude]I spent the first 21 years of my life in Tucson. I’m 1/2 lizard and visit Phoenix regularly. Would rather have a house like this on a 13,000 sq. ft. lot for $325K in Awatukee than anything for $325K in Poway.
I have also lived in Poway for a year.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2106-E-Taxidea-Way-Phoenix-AZ-85048/8160340_zpid/
[/quote]WOW, sdduuuude! There are actually GREEN lawns and trees around there … and several one-story models! I’ve driven thru there on I-10/I-17 several times but never really got very far off the fwy. These houses are MUCH bigger than a typical SD house, ESP in the $300-$400K range!
How much is a typical SFR water bill in Phoenix from April to October….for those with landscaping to water? Just wondering …. I have no plans to retire there but can kind of see why lots of people do.
May 17, 2012 at 1:10 PM #743989bearishgurlParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler]OK to each their own.
You could probably find something close to that in TV or east county (maybe valley center) for around the same amount.
Me I would still choose that over Phoenix[/quote]I agree, Shoveler. If in SD County, it just likely wouldn’t be as *new.*
Hey, didn’t you used to be Nor_LA_SD_Guy and/or his twin, Nor_LA_SD_Guy2?
May 17, 2012 at 1:14 PM #743992sdrealtorParticipantMoscin
You have found a great place to learn about life in SD. There are lots of smart, well intentioned folks around here and unfortunately a few crazies with axes to grind. We call them LETDLITA’s (leading experts that dont live in the area). Stick to information from the folks who actually live in an area and you will be fine. Of course, do your own due diligence as well when you get here to look around.People in CA are spoiled by relatively low RE taxes relative to the east coast. Back east people are used to paying higher taxes in nicer areas with more highly regarded school systems. In CA your taxes are essentially 1% of the purchase plus a few minor assessments (roughly 10 basis points). Unlike back east, houses are not re-assessed each year. To keep schools afloat and fund new infrastructure (schools, roads and Taj Mahal like fire stations) they assess new construction with additional fees commonly called Mello Roos. Old timers think they are bad but young families mostly view them as a higher tax rate in return for better/newer infrastructure. Not all homes have them and they vary so be sure to inquire about them and include them in your calculations.
More than anything you have found a great source of information from well intentioned people. We are happy to have new people joining our growing hometown (at least most of us) and wish you luck in your search.
May 17, 2012 at 1:15 PM #743993The-ShovelerParticipantmaybe I am may I am not,
anyway I am getting really good with a Shovel these days.
I mean really really good !!
May 17, 2012 at 1:33 PM #743994EssbeeParticipantIt’s technically just southwest of Rancho Bernardo, but… my husband and I moved into the south side of 4S Ranch (south of Camino del Norte) about 6 weeks ago and we LOVE it. The HOA and Mello Roos are much lower on the south side and we like how you don’t feel like you’re looking at an endless sea of houses when you’re driving in.
I haven’t met any stay at home moms yet, but I see them everyday (pushing their strollers) as I am driving into work. Our kids are age 1 and 3.
I predict that the south area has more older kids than the north end (which has newer construction, and more younger kids), but that doesn’t bother us much. There are still LOTS and LOTS of kids. and hopefully fewer young ones will mean that Stone Ranch Elementary will get less crowded as my little ones reach school age.
May 17, 2012 at 2:08 PM #743997sdduuuudeParticipant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=sdduuuude]I spent the first 21 years of my life in Tucson. I’m 1/2 lizard and visit Phoenix regularly. Would rather have a house like this on a 13,000 sq. ft. lot for $325K in Awatukee than anything for $325K in Poway.
I have also lived in Poway for a year.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2106-E-Taxidea-Way-Phoenix-AZ-85048/8160340_zpid/
[/quote]WOW, sdduuuude! There are actually GREEN lawns and trees around there … and several one-story models! I’ve driven thru there on I-10/I-17 several times but never really got very far off the fwy. These houses are MUCH bigger than a typical SD house, ESP in the $300-$400K range!
How much is a typical SFR water bill in Phoenix from April to October….for those with landscaping to water? Just wondering …. I have no plans to retire there but can kind of see why lots of people do.[/quote]
Ya. If you spend the $800K that you would spend in Carmel Valley south or south/southeast of South Mountain in Phoenix, it’ll be an honest-to-goodness mansion with a wide-open nature preserve behind you.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/13835-S-Canyon-Dr-Phoenix-AZ-85048/8161205_zpid/
As Shovler says, it is truly a “to each his own” kind of thing, that’s for sure. And I appreciate that. Just giving the OP some alternative viewpoints.
I see the comparative benefits of living in San Diego vs. other parts of the country when I look at neighborhoods along the I-5 corridor. I just don’t see them along the 15.
May 17, 2012 at 2:41 PM #743999ocrenterParticipantWe have been in the PUSD area since we moved into the area 6 years ago and would highly recommend it. The schools are top rate and the environment very family friendly and great for folks that enjoy the outdoors.
micro-analysis of the area:
–the Trails, older estate homes, no mello roos, very hot in the summer. Essentially just south of Escondido
–northeast Poway, gated estates mostly. Low mello Roos but higher HOA. Again, very hot in the summer.
–Stonebridge, new upper end homes with mello roos, all PUSD mello roos can be paid off, approx 60k. Factor that into purchase price. Much cooler compared to poway.
–4S south, low MR, low HOA, best schools in PUSD, summer better than poway.
–4S north, high MR, low HOA, very crowded, over built during the bubble. Most of distress concentrated in this area
–del sur, very high MR, high HOA, small homes on small lots
–Santa Fe Valley, newish larger homes on large lots, very low MR, gated, HOA reasonable.
–santaluz and the crosbys, beautiful very high end homes with steep MR and HOA.I would say as for school age children and young families, all these areas fit the criteria except for the Trails and less so northeast poway estate homes.
May 17, 2012 at 2:53 PM #744001poorgradstudentParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]OK…now get ready for the resident lunatic to come in and warn about the evils of planned communities, homeowners associations and Mello Roos.[/quote]
I think everyone on this board should buy and encourage their friends to buy in planned communities with HOAs. That might help drive down the price of places I actually want to buy!May 17, 2012 at 3:43 PM #744003sdrealtorParticipantI’m not pro or con either. Each should be evaluated on their own merits. They are all different and just one part of the equation. None are inherently evil – just another data point to pop into your calculations to make the best decision for you and your family.
Prices arent going down anytime soon. You will get to live where you want to buy as soon as you are a well paid professional instead of a poor graduate student;)
May 17, 2012 at 4:00 PM #744005zkParticipant[quote=SD Transplant]I’ve been living in Poway for over 1 year now… I used my AC 4 times last year…..go figure[/quote]
moscin,
You’ve heard a lot about the summer heat in various places in this thread. Proximity to the ocean makes a vast difference in summer temps here. The ocean is cold, and the wind blows off of it virtually every day in the summer. We have a “marine layer” (low clouds and fog) which is very prevalent in May and June, and occasional during the rest of the summer. This marine layer burns off at varying times in varying locations (sometimes not at all, even all the way to the mountains). The closer you are to the ocean, the more marine layer you’re going to get. And the closer to the ocean, the cooler it is in the summer. I’m actually finding Carmel Valley (3 miles from the ocean) a bit cool for my taste. It’s 72 most summer days here. It’s hotter the further inland you go. If I remember, Scripps Ranch was 6-10 degrees hotter than CV. At those temps, you still don’t generally have to use your ac except when the santa anas blow (very hot and dry) or during the occasional summer monsoonal moisture periods (hot and relatively humid). Poway residents can tell you the summer day temps there. The eastern parts of Poway will be hotter than the western parts. Eastern Poway is pretty hot. Ramona is really hot. Temecula, forget about it.
Just something for you to consider.
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