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May 27, 2008 at 11:19 AM #212202May 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM #212132dharmagirlParticipant
Several years ago, I lived in a community that included 25 townhomes. I was on the HOA and we couldn’t figure out why 85% of the neighbors were not coming to the meetings, or responding to mail.
We learned that 14 of the homes were ESL and occupied by people from Sri Lanka, Pakistan, China, India and Korea.
Usually, 1-2 adults in the family was working 50+ hours per week and there was either a parent/grandparent at home during the day who could NOT speak English. They were quiet, respectful neighbors but, due to language and cultural differences, there was little interaction among neighbors.
Imagine what it would be like if YOU had to go live in Beijing for work (or other reason) and navigate a totally different culture, values, language, etc. You’d probably choose to live in an ex-pat community with other white, English speaking people, go to ex-pat bars, etc. It’s what people do.
Tribes tend to stick together.
May 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM #212180dharmagirlParticipantSeveral years ago, I lived in a community that included 25 townhomes. I was on the HOA and we couldn’t figure out why 85% of the neighbors were not coming to the meetings, or responding to mail.
We learned that 14 of the homes were ESL and occupied by people from Sri Lanka, Pakistan, China, India and Korea.
Usually, 1-2 adults in the family was working 50+ hours per week and there was either a parent/grandparent at home during the day who could NOT speak English. They were quiet, respectful neighbors but, due to language and cultural differences, there was little interaction among neighbors.
Imagine what it would be like if YOU had to go live in Beijing for work (or other reason) and navigate a totally different culture, values, language, etc. You’d probably choose to live in an ex-pat community with other white, English speaking people, go to ex-pat bars, etc. It’s what people do.
Tribes tend to stick together.
May 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM #212212dharmagirlParticipantSeveral years ago, I lived in a community that included 25 townhomes. I was on the HOA and we couldn’t figure out why 85% of the neighbors were not coming to the meetings, or responding to mail.
We learned that 14 of the homes were ESL and occupied by people from Sri Lanka, Pakistan, China, India and Korea.
Usually, 1-2 adults in the family was working 50+ hours per week and there was either a parent/grandparent at home during the day who could NOT speak English. They were quiet, respectful neighbors but, due to language and cultural differences, there was little interaction among neighbors.
Imagine what it would be like if YOU had to go live in Beijing for work (or other reason) and navigate a totally different culture, values, language, etc. You’d probably choose to live in an ex-pat community with other white, English speaking people, go to ex-pat bars, etc. It’s what people do.
Tribes tend to stick together.
May 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM #212159dharmagirlParticipantSeveral years ago, I lived in a community that included 25 townhomes. I was on the HOA and we couldn’t figure out why 85% of the neighbors were not coming to the meetings, or responding to mail.
We learned that 14 of the homes were ESL and occupied by people from Sri Lanka, Pakistan, China, India and Korea.
Usually, 1-2 adults in the family was working 50+ hours per week and there was either a parent/grandparent at home during the day who could NOT speak English. They were quiet, respectful neighbors but, due to language and cultural differences, there was little interaction among neighbors.
Imagine what it would be like if YOU had to go live in Beijing for work (or other reason) and navigate a totally different culture, values, language, etc. You’d probably choose to live in an ex-pat community with other white, English speaking people, go to ex-pat bars, etc. It’s what people do.
Tribes tend to stick together.
May 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM #212058dharmagirlParticipantSeveral years ago, I lived in a community that included 25 townhomes. I was on the HOA and we couldn’t figure out why 85% of the neighbors were not coming to the meetings, or responding to mail.
We learned that 14 of the homes were ESL and occupied by people from Sri Lanka, Pakistan, China, India and Korea.
Usually, 1-2 adults in the family was working 50+ hours per week and there was either a parent/grandparent at home during the day who could NOT speak English. They were quiet, respectful neighbors but, due to language and cultural differences, there was little interaction among neighbors.
Imagine what it would be like if YOU had to go live in Beijing for work (or other reason) and navigate a totally different culture, values, language, etc. You’d probably choose to live in an ex-pat community with other white, English speaking people, go to ex-pat bars, etc. It’s what people do.
Tribes tend to stick together.
May 27, 2008 at 11:41 AM #212175CoronitaParticipantWow, really? FYI, Chinese are not the only Asian and we all don't look alike.
Just for the record, I can tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese and Filipinos (and also between their spoken languages). I can't tell Chinese from Koreans.
Also, most of the Asians you have the $ to afford these new homes are most likely engineers of some sort. Which means they either work in RB or SV.
I'm an engineer and I work in SV. In our company, Asians are a minority.
but from my experience most Asian Families are quiet and respectfull to their neighbours
I'm sure almost any family with enough $$ to buy in 4S Ranch will be quiet and well behaved, and there won't be any late-night parties in the backyard. That would not be my concern.
I'd be more concerned about something like this (a quote from the thread "What the the community atmosphere in Silver Crest (San Marcos)"):
By and large, the Asian families completely segregated themselves from the rest of the neighborhood and were never, ever outside – ever. EG: A family that lived right across the street from us, from China, refused to say hello to me for two years, and the day we left we remarked how sad it was that we never even met them in two years. On the school bus one day, one of our neighbors kids were told to 'go to the back of the bus' because the were white and sitting in the Asian section!
Sorry to hear that. But its kinda hard to generalize don't you think? I know plenty of neighbors that never would give you the time and day regardless of what ethnicity they are. Some people just like to keep to themselves, you really can't change that. As far as your neighbor's kid, sorry to hear that. You do have trash people where you go from all ethnicity. But something you probably will need to accept and get your kids to accept, what several minorities occasionally have to put up with some of the time. They are never going to be treated equally by everyone all the the time. There's no government legislation or corporate policy that's ever going to address this. And frankly, the world is getting smaller. Business is more international. If you want your kids have the most opportunity, they'll have to learn how to "tolerate" different people, or choose to live in isolation. The economic power is shift, the world's getting smaller. We're not going to be the only place of opportunity moving forward.
As far as your preferences. I personally don't see you to be "racist". You probably have a preference of where you want to live, and you probably want to live a neighborhood where you feel comfortable where you feel people look more similar, act more similar, share more similar values, and do things more similar. Nothing wrong with that, though you might have a few preconceived notions based an just a few instances. Oh well, everyone does to some degree or the other. Frankly, I always thought San Diego to be not so diverse (relative to the Bay Area), but that's just me.
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—– Sour grapes for everyone!
May 27, 2008 at 11:41 AM #212207CoronitaParticipantWow, really? FYI, Chinese are not the only Asian and we all don't look alike.
Just for the record, I can tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese and Filipinos (and also between their spoken languages). I can't tell Chinese from Koreans.
Also, most of the Asians you have the $ to afford these new homes are most likely engineers of some sort. Which means they either work in RB or SV.
I'm an engineer and I work in SV. In our company, Asians are a minority.
but from my experience most Asian Families are quiet and respectfull to their neighbours
I'm sure almost any family with enough $$ to buy in 4S Ranch will be quiet and well behaved, and there won't be any late-night parties in the backyard. That would not be my concern.
I'd be more concerned about something like this (a quote from the thread "What the the community atmosphere in Silver Crest (San Marcos)"):
By and large, the Asian families completely segregated themselves from the rest of the neighborhood and were never, ever outside – ever. EG: A family that lived right across the street from us, from China, refused to say hello to me for two years, and the day we left we remarked how sad it was that we never even met them in two years. On the school bus one day, one of our neighbors kids were told to 'go to the back of the bus' because the were white and sitting in the Asian section!
Sorry to hear that. But its kinda hard to generalize don't you think? I know plenty of neighbors that never would give you the time and day regardless of what ethnicity they are. Some people just like to keep to themselves, you really can't change that. As far as your neighbor's kid, sorry to hear that. You do have trash people where you go from all ethnicity. But something you probably will need to accept and get your kids to accept, what several minorities occasionally have to put up with some of the time. They are never going to be treated equally by everyone all the the time. There's no government legislation or corporate policy that's ever going to address this. And frankly, the world is getting smaller. Business is more international. If you want your kids have the most opportunity, they'll have to learn how to "tolerate" different people, or choose to live in isolation. The economic power is shift, the world's getting smaller. We're not going to be the only place of opportunity moving forward.
As far as your preferences. I personally don't see you to be "racist". You probably have a preference of where you want to live, and you probably want to live a neighborhood where you feel comfortable where you feel people look more similar, act more similar, share more similar values, and do things more similar. Nothing wrong with that, though you might have a few preconceived notions based an just a few instances. Oh well, everyone does to some degree or the other. Frankly, I always thought San Diego to be not so diverse (relative to the Bay Area), but that's just me.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
May 27, 2008 at 11:41 AM #212154CoronitaParticipantWow, really? FYI, Chinese are not the only Asian and we all don't look alike.
Just for the record, I can tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese and Filipinos (and also between their spoken languages). I can't tell Chinese from Koreans.
Also, most of the Asians you have the $ to afford these new homes are most likely engineers of some sort. Which means they either work in RB or SV.
I'm an engineer and I work in SV. In our company, Asians are a minority.
but from my experience most Asian Families are quiet and respectfull to their neighbours
I'm sure almost any family with enough $$ to buy in 4S Ranch will be quiet and well behaved, and there won't be any late-night parties in the backyard. That would not be my concern.
I'd be more concerned about something like this (a quote from the thread "What the the community atmosphere in Silver Crest (San Marcos)"):
By and large, the Asian families completely segregated themselves from the rest of the neighborhood and were never, ever outside – ever. EG: A family that lived right across the street from us, from China, refused to say hello to me for two years, and the day we left we remarked how sad it was that we never even met them in two years. On the school bus one day, one of our neighbors kids were told to 'go to the back of the bus' because the were white and sitting in the Asian section!
Sorry to hear that. But its kinda hard to generalize don't you think? I know plenty of neighbors that never would give you the time and day regardless of what ethnicity they are. Some people just like to keep to themselves, you really can't change that. As far as your neighbor's kid, sorry to hear that. You do have trash people where you go from all ethnicity. But something you probably will need to accept and get your kids to accept, what several minorities occasionally have to put up with some of the time. They are never going to be treated equally by everyone all the the time. There's no government legislation or corporate policy that's ever going to address this. And frankly, the world is getting smaller. Business is more international. If you want your kids have the most opportunity, they'll have to learn how to "tolerate" different people, or choose to live in isolation. The economic power is shift, the world's getting smaller. We're not going to be the only place of opportunity moving forward.
As far as your preferences. I personally don't see you to be "racist". You probably have a preference of where you want to live, and you probably want to live a neighborhood where you feel comfortable where you feel people look more similar, act more similar, share more similar values, and do things more similar. Nothing wrong with that, though you might have a few preconceived notions based an just a few instances. Oh well, everyone does to some degree or the other. Frankly, I always thought San Diego to be not so diverse (relative to the Bay Area), but that's just me.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
May 27, 2008 at 11:41 AM #212127CoronitaParticipantWow, really? FYI, Chinese are not the only Asian and we all don't look alike.
Just for the record, I can tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese and Filipinos (and also between their spoken languages). I can't tell Chinese from Koreans.
Also, most of the Asians you have the $ to afford these new homes are most likely engineers of some sort. Which means they either work in RB or SV.
I'm an engineer and I work in SV. In our company, Asians are a minority.
but from my experience most Asian Families are quiet and respectfull to their neighbours
I'm sure almost any family with enough $$ to buy in 4S Ranch will be quiet and well behaved, and there won't be any late-night parties in the backyard. That would not be my concern.
I'd be more concerned about something like this (a quote from the thread "What the the community atmosphere in Silver Crest (San Marcos)"):
By and large, the Asian families completely segregated themselves from the rest of the neighborhood and were never, ever outside – ever. EG: A family that lived right across the street from us, from China, refused to say hello to me for two years, and the day we left we remarked how sad it was that we never even met them in two years. On the school bus one day, one of our neighbors kids were told to 'go to the back of the bus' because the were white and sitting in the Asian section!
Sorry to hear that. But its kinda hard to generalize don't you think? I know plenty of neighbors that never would give you the time and day regardless of what ethnicity they are. Some people just like to keep to themselves, you really can't change that. As far as your neighbor's kid, sorry to hear that. You do have trash people where you go from all ethnicity. But something you probably will need to accept and get your kids to accept, what several minorities occasionally have to put up with some of the time. They are never going to be treated equally by everyone all the the time. There's no government legislation or corporate policy that's ever going to address this. And frankly, the world is getting smaller. Business is more international. If you want your kids have the most opportunity, they'll have to learn how to "tolerate" different people, or choose to live in isolation. The economic power is shift, the world's getting smaller. We're not going to be the only place of opportunity moving forward.
As far as your preferences. I personally don't see you to be "racist". You probably have a preference of where you want to live, and you probably want to live a neighborhood where you feel comfortable where you feel people look more similar, act more similar, share more similar values, and do things more similar. Nothing wrong with that, though you might have a few preconceived notions based an just a few instances. Oh well, everyone does to some degree or the other. Frankly, I always thought San Diego to be not so diverse (relative to the Bay Area), but that's just me.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
May 27, 2008 at 11:41 AM #212053CoronitaParticipantWow, really? FYI, Chinese are not the only Asian and we all don't look alike.
Just for the record, I can tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese and Filipinos (and also between their spoken languages). I can't tell Chinese from Koreans.
Also, most of the Asians you have the $ to afford these new homes are most likely engineers of some sort. Which means they either work in RB or SV.
I'm an engineer and I work in SV. In our company, Asians are a minority.
but from my experience most Asian Families are quiet and respectfull to their neighbours
I'm sure almost any family with enough $$ to buy in 4S Ranch will be quiet and well behaved, and there won't be any late-night parties in the backyard. That would not be my concern.
I'd be more concerned about something like this (a quote from the thread "What the the community atmosphere in Silver Crest (San Marcos)"):
By and large, the Asian families completely segregated themselves from the rest of the neighborhood and were never, ever outside – ever. EG: A family that lived right across the street from us, from China, refused to say hello to me for two years, and the day we left we remarked how sad it was that we never even met them in two years. On the school bus one day, one of our neighbors kids were told to 'go to the back of the bus' because the were white and sitting in the Asian section!
Sorry to hear that. But its kinda hard to generalize don't you think? I know plenty of neighbors that never would give you the time and day regardless of what ethnicity they are. Some people just like to keep to themselves, you really can't change that. As far as your neighbor's kid, sorry to hear that. You do have trash people where you go from all ethnicity. But something you probably will need to accept and get your kids to accept, what several minorities occasionally have to put up with some of the time. They are never going to be treated equally by everyone all the the time. There's no government legislation or corporate policy that's ever going to address this. And frankly, the world is getting smaller. Business is more international. If you want your kids have the most opportunity, they'll have to learn how to "tolerate" different people, or choose to live in isolation. The economic power is shift, the world's getting smaller. We're not going to be the only place of opportunity moving forward.
As far as your preferences. I personally don't see you to be "racist". You probably have a preference of where you want to live, and you probably want to live a neighborhood where you feel comfortable where you feel people look more similar, act more similar, share more similar values, and do things more similar. Nothing wrong with that, though you might have a few preconceived notions based an just a few instances. Oh well, everyone does to some degree or the other. Frankly, I always thought San Diego to be not so diverse (relative to the Bay Area), but that's just me.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
May 27, 2008 at 12:01 PM #212220ocrenterParticipantI’m all for living in ethnically diverse communities, and I knew there were Asians in 4S Ranch but come on. 4S Ranch seems to be on track to become a new China town.
4S is very diverse. I wouldn’t say it is only Chinese, it is pretty equally split between Chinese, Korean, Indian, and Filipino.
May 27, 2008 at 12:01 PM #212250ocrenterParticipantI’m all for living in ethnically diverse communities, and I knew there were Asians in 4S Ranch but come on. 4S Ranch seems to be on track to become a new China town.
4S is very diverse. I wouldn’t say it is only Chinese, it is pretty equally split between Chinese, Korean, Indian, and Filipino.
May 27, 2008 at 12:01 PM #212098ocrenterParticipantI’m all for living in ethnically diverse communities, and I knew there were Asians in 4S Ranch but come on. 4S Ranch seems to be on track to become a new China town.
4S is very diverse. I wouldn’t say it is only Chinese, it is pretty equally split between Chinese, Korean, Indian, and Filipino.
May 27, 2008 at 12:01 PM #212199ocrenterParticipantI’m all for living in ethnically diverse communities, and I knew there were Asians in 4S Ranch but come on. 4S Ranch seems to be on track to become a new China town.
4S is very diverse. I wouldn’t say it is only Chinese, it is pretty equally split between Chinese, Korean, Indian, and Filipino.
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