“San Diego we still have a problem”

[familyguy]

[quote=bearishgurl]This “desire” of first time buyers could be compared to a newly-minted military wife of all of 18-22 years old waltzing into town and demanding a unit in Pacific Beach, Coronado or Pt Loma from the Navy Family Housing Office (yes, this happens every day). Never mind they grew up in a double-wide in Kentucky. They have decided they will NOT accept a unit unless it is located in one of those three areas. Hence, they end up taking the housing allowance and paying rent somewhere (likely NOT in one of their desired areas, lol) while they waitlist, often for years. When they can’t manage their rent and utility bills, they give up and move back “home,” wherever that is, to await the arrival of their deployed spouses and also usually their 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th child.

It seems there may be a pervasive mentality among first-time RE buyers that it’s all or nothing … exactly what they desire now or no purchase at all. What’s wrong with a “good enough for the next 5-10 yrs” property? How about a sweat-equity fixer in a GREAT location?? How ELSE are you going to buy in that GREAT location??
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God forbid a new young wife wants to stay in a desirable housing area. WOW…BG sounds like you have some real anger issues. Since you know this happens “every day” I am assuming you may work in the Navy Housing office? Given how bitter you are, maybe it’s time to find new employment.

Regarding buying a house thats “good enough” thats a whole other discussion.

[Broken Bells]

I was kind of with you until you until you said to forget parking. How do you figure everyone would get to work? I wouldn’t even consider a place without two parking spaces.

[Broken Bells]

I was kind of with you until you until you said to forget parking. How do you figure everyone would get to work? I wouldn’t even consider a place without two parking spaces.

[Broken Bells]

I was kind of with you until you until you said to forget parking. How do you figure everyone would get to work? I wouldn’t even consider a place without two parking spaces.

[Broken Bells]

I was kind of with you until you until you said to forget parking. How do you figure everyone would get to work? I wouldn’t even consider a place without two parking spaces.

[Broken Bells]

I was kind of with you until you until you said to forget parking. How do you figure everyone would get to work? I wouldn’t even consider a place without two parking spaces.

[pemeliza]

Wow some interesting posts here. sdr, I pretty much had the opposite experience you suggested when we moved from Encinitas to Mission Hills.

In Encinitas we had a new 3500+ sq. ft. super house with a panoramic ocean view that the people you talk of in your posts from other neighborhoods dream and lust over but we really didn’t fit in (not rich enough!) and rarely socialized with our neighbors.

In Mission Hills we have a much smaller 100 year old bungalow on a historic street and we are quite a bit happier with the neighborhood. Yes the house needs work but it is not like it is falling down around us and we have a very private canyon lot with the kind of mature landscape that you would never find in a newer tract home development.

There are, contrary to belief, some families with kids in these older neighborhoods. Many of the houses near ours were past down to their current owners and they are actually pretty down to earth people relative to my old neighbors in Encinitas.

We love being able to walk to shops and just go around gawking at all the beautiful old historical houses and nearby parks and not having to drive an hour to get to San Diego attractions is a major plus. So yes, for us this is a prime location and lifestyle.

[pemeliza]

Wow some interesting posts here. sdr, I pretty much had the opposite experience you suggested when we moved from Encinitas to Mission Hills.

In Encinitas we had a new 3500+ sq. ft. super house with a panoramic ocean view that the people you talk of in your posts from other neighborhoods dream and lust over but we really didn’t fit in (not rich enough!) and rarely socialized with our neighbors.

In Mission Hills we have a much smaller 100 year old bungalow on a historic street and we are quite a bit happier with the neighborhood. Yes the house needs work but it is not like it is falling down around us and we have a very private canyon lot with the kind of mature landscape that you would never find in a newer tract home development.

There are, contrary to belief, some families with kids in these older neighborhoods. Many of the houses near ours were past down to their current owners and they are actually pretty down to earth people relative to my old neighbors in Encinitas.

We love being able to walk to shops and just go around gawking at all the beautiful old historical houses and nearby parks and not having to drive an hour to get to San Diego attractions is a major plus. So yes, for us this is a prime location and lifestyle.

[pemeliza]

Wow some interesting posts here. sdr, I pretty much had the opposite experience you suggested when we moved from Encinitas to Mission Hills.

In Encinitas we had a new 3500+ sq. ft. super house with a panoramic ocean view that the people you talk of in your posts from other neighborhoods dream and lust over but we really didn’t fit in (not rich enough!) and rarely socialized with our neighbors.

In Mission Hills we have a much smaller 100 year old bungalow on a historic street and we are quite a bit happier with the neighborhood. Yes the house needs work but it is not like it is falling down around us and we have a very private canyon lot with the kind of mature landscape that you would never find in a newer tract home development.

There are, contrary to belief, some families with kids in these older neighborhoods. Many of the houses near ours were past down to their current owners and they are actually pretty down to earth people relative to my old neighbors in Encinitas.

We love being able to walk to shops and just go around gawking at all the beautiful old historical houses and nearby parks and not having to drive an hour to get to San Diego attractions is a major plus. So yes, for us this is a prime location and lifestyle.

[pemeliza]

Wow some interesting posts here. sdr, I pretty much had the opposite experience you suggested when we moved from Encinitas to Mission Hills.

In Encinitas we had a new 3500+ sq. ft. super house with a panoramic ocean view that the people you talk of in your posts from other neighborhoods dream and lust over but we really didn’t fit in (not rich enough!) and rarely socialized with our neighbors.

In Mission Hills we have a much smaller 100 year old bungalow on a historic street and we are quite a bit happier with the neighborhood. Yes the house needs work but it is not like it is falling down around us and we have a very private canyon lot with the kind of mature landscape that you would never find in a newer tract home development.

There are, contrary to belief, some families with kids in these older neighborhoods. Many of the houses near ours were past down to their current owners and they are actually pretty down to earth people relative to my old neighbors in Encinitas.

We love being able to walk to shops and just go around gawking at all the beautiful old historical houses and nearby parks and not having to drive an hour to get to San Diego attractions is a major plus. So yes, for us this is a prime location and lifestyle.

[pemeliza]

Wow some interesting posts here. sdr, I pretty much had the opposite experience you suggested when we moved from Encinitas to Mission Hills.

In Encinitas we had a new 3500+ sq. ft. super house with a panoramic ocean view that the people you talk of in your posts from other neighborhoods dream and lust over but we really didn’t fit in (not rich enough!) and rarely socialized with our neighbors.

In Mission Hills we have a much smaller 100 year old bungalow on a historic street and we are quite a bit happier with the neighborhood. Yes the house needs work but it is not like it is falling down around us and we have a very private canyon lot with the kind of mature landscape that you would never find in a newer tract home development.

There are, contrary to belief, some families with kids in these older neighborhoods. Many of the houses near ours were past down to their current owners and they are actually pretty down to earth people relative to my old neighbors in Encinitas.

We love being able to walk to shops and just go around gawking at all the beautiful old historical houses and nearby parks and not having to drive an hour to get to San Diego attractions is a major plus. So yes, for us this is a prime location and lifestyle.

[Navydoc]

BG, you clearly don’t know my wife do you?

Seriously though, you are certainly correct when you say any property can be made exactly the way you want it, but the hassle involved with that approach can be extraordinary. It’s ok if you don’t mind, but if one of the spouses doesn’t want to live in a partially renovated house with the dust, the constant debris, the noise and the smells, we could be talking divorce at some point. I renovated my basement myself here in Maryland, and it IS exactly the way I wanted it (going to miss my ultimate man cave), but the only way I could pull it off was that my wife never went down there to see the mess. She would just get to see her husband covered with drywall dust and would say “I’ll see it when your done.” Now, maybe you think my wife is a spoiled princess, but I assure you she’s not, and that the hassles of renovation are clearly not for everyone. Add to the fact that you may not recoup half of your renovation expenses when it comes time to sell, so how is that different from depreciation on a new house? And why do you say that all the best locations are already built? I happen to love the wide open feel of the Stonebridge community, and especially love the sizes of the yards. I can’t think of any community within a 30 minute commute to Balboa that looks/feels this way, regardless of age. 4S is similar, and that is a consideration, but there are few areas even in 4S that can boast a 3/4 acre yard. Ivy Gate is one, but the HOA’s and Mello Roos are just as bad as Stonebridge. If a yard that large is something your not interested in, then don’t disdain my choice for wanting one. I’m currently living on 1.25 acres and squeezing onto an 8000 sq ft lot in Carmel Valley or some of the 4S communities is not that appealing to me. Oh, you mentioned warmth. Right now as I type this it’s 103 degrees outside with 94% humidity. do you really think the heat ANYWHERE in San Diego is going to compare to the D/C area? And I don’t have to bring my snowblower either.

Folks on this board know I’ve been here for quite a while, and I’ve researched the San Diego real estate market as much or more than some professional realtors. Hell, I moved here 2 years ago and still read this board every day. I’ve simply come to the conclusion that a new home fits our wants and needs the best. I told you my psychology for wanting a new home was stupid, but since I have the means why can’t I have one?

[Navydoc]

BG, you clearly don’t know my wife do you?

Seriously though, you are certainly correct when you say any property can be made exactly the way you want it, but the hassle involved with that approach can be extraordinary. It’s ok if you don’t mind, but if one of the spouses doesn’t want to live in a partially renovated house with the dust, the constant debris, the noise and the smells, we could be talking divorce at some point. I renovated my basement myself here in Maryland, and it IS exactly the way I wanted it (going to miss my ultimate man cave), but the only way I could pull it off was that my wife never went down there to see the mess. She would just get to see her husband covered with drywall dust and would say “I’ll see it when your done.” Now, maybe you think my wife is a spoiled princess, but I assure you she’s not, and that the hassles of renovation are clearly not for everyone. Add to the fact that you may not recoup half of your renovation expenses when it comes time to sell, so how is that different from depreciation on a new house? And why do you say that all the best locations are already built? I happen to love the wide open feel of the Stonebridge community, and especially love the sizes of the yards. I can’t think of any community within a 30 minute commute to Balboa that looks/feels this way, regardless of age. 4S is similar, and that is a consideration, but there are few areas even in 4S that can boast a 3/4 acre yard. Ivy Gate is one, but the HOA’s and Mello Roos are just as bad as Stonebridge. If a yard that large is something your not interested in, then don’t disdain my choice for wanting one. I’m currently living on 1.25 acres and squeezing onto an 8000 sq ft lot in Carmel Valley or some of the 4S communities is not that appealing to me. Oh, you mentioned warmth. Right now as I type this it’s 103 degrees outside with 94% humidity. do you really think the heat ANYWHERE in San Diego is going to compare to the D/C area? And I don’t have to bring my snowblower either.

Folks on this board know I’ve been here for quite a while, and I’ve researched the San Diego real estate market as much or more than some professional realtors. Hell, I moved here 2 years ago and still read this board every day. I’ve simply come to the conclusion that a new home fits our wants and needs the best. I told you my psychology for wanting a new home was stupid, but since I have the means why can’t I have one?

[Navydoc]

BG, you clearly don’t know my wife do you?

Seriously though, you are certainly correct when you say any property can be made exactly the way you want it, but the hassle involved with that approach can be extraordinary. It’s ok if you don’t mind, but if one of the spouses doesn’t want to live in a partially renovated house with the dust, the constant debris, the noise and the smells, we could be talking divorce at some point. I renovated my basement myself here in Maryland, and it IS exactly the way I wanted it (going to miss my ultimate man cave), but the only way I could pull it off was that my wife never went down there to see the mess. She would just get to see her husband covered with drywall dust and would say “I’ll see it when your done.” Now, maybe you think my wife is a spoiled princess, but I assure you she’s not, and that the hassles of renovation are clearly not for everyone. Add to the fact that you may not recoup half of your renovation expenses when it comes time to sell, so how is that different from depreciation on a new house? And why do you say that all the best locations are already built? I happen to love the wide open feel of the Stonebridge community, and especially love the sizes of the yards. I can’t think of any community within a 30 minute commute to Balboa that looks/feels this way, regardless of age. 4S is similar, and that is a consideration, but there are few areas even in 4S that can boast a 3/4 acre yard. Ivy Gate is one, but the HOA’s and Mello Roos are just as bad as Stonebridge. If a yard that large is something your not interested in, then don’t disdain my choice for wanting one. I’m currently living on 1.25 acres and squeezing onto an 8000 sq ft lot in Carmel Valley or some of the 4S communities is not that appealing to me. Oh, you mentioned warmth. Right now as I type this it’s 103 degrees outside with 94% humidity. do you really think the heat ANYWHERE in San Diego is going to compare to the D/C area? And I don’t have to bring my snowblower either.

Folks on this board know I’ve been here for quite a while, and I’ve researched the San Diego real estate market as much or more than some professional realtors. Hell, I moved here 2 years ago and still read this board every day. I’ve simply come to the conclusion that a new home fits our wants and needs the best. I told you my psychology for wanting a new home was stupid, but since I have the means why can’t I have one?

[Navydoc]

BG, you clearly don’t know my wife do you?

Seriously though, you are certainly correct when you say any property can be made exactly the way you want it, but the hassle involved with that approach can be extraordinary. It’s ok if you don’t mind, but if one of the spouses doesn’t want to live in a partially renovated house with the dust, the constant debris, the noise and the smells, we could be talking divorce at some point. I renovated my basement myself here in Maryland, and it IS exactly the way I wanted it (going to miss my ultimate man cave), but the only way I could pull it off was that my wife never went down there to see the mess. She would just get to see her husband covered with drywall dust and would say “I’ll see it when your done.” Now, maybe you think my wife is a spoiled princess, but I assure you she’s not, and that the hassles of renovation are clearly not for everyone. Add to the fact that you may not recoup half of your renovation expenses when it comes time to sell, so how is that different from depreciation on a new house? And why do you say that all the best locations are already built? I happen to love the wide open feel of the Stonebridge community, and especially love the sizes of the yards. I can’t think of any community within a 30 minute commute to Balboa that looks/feels this way, regardless of age. 4S is similar, and that is a consideration, but there are few areas even in 4S that can boast a 3/4 acre yard. Ivy Gate is one, but the HOA’s and Mello Roos are just as bad as Stonebridge. If a yard that large is something your not interested in, then don’t disdain my choice for wanting one. I’m currently living on 1.25 acres and squeezing onto an 8000 sq ft lot in Carmel Valley or some of the 4S communities is not that appealing to me. Oh, you mentioned warmth. Right now as I type this it’s 103 degrees outside with 94% humidity. do you really think the heat ANYWHERE in San Diego is going to compare to the D/C area? And I don’t have to bring my snowblower either.

Folks on this board know I’ve been here for quite a while, and I’ve researched the San Diego real estate market as much or more than some professional realtors. Hell, I moved here 2 years ago and still read this board every day. I’ve simply come to the conclusion that a new home fits our wants and needs the best. I told you my psychology for wanting a new home was stupid, but since I have the means why can’t I have one?

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