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June 22, 2010 at 8:53 AM #569119June 22, 2010 at 9:01 AM #570018
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ParticipantMy first appaisal came in at $10,000 above contract price. Then everything went haywire and second appraisal (completely different lender and appraisal company, but within 2 weeks) had to be done, it also came in at $10,000 above contract price.
My cousin bought in same neighborhood and closed the week before me, his appraisal also came in at $10,000 above contract price.
From what I saw there was a template they follow that includes pulling neighborhood comps and a quick look at the home to justify the lender giving you that much money.
June 22, 2010 at 9:01 AM #569631treehugger
ParticipantMy first appaisal came in at $10,000 above contract price. Then everything went haywire and second appraisal (completely different lender and appraisal company, but within 2 weeks) had to be done, it also came in at $10,000 above contract price.
My cousin bought in same neighborhood and closed the week before me, his appraisal also came in at $10,000 above contract price.
From what I saw there was a template they follow that includes pulling neighborhood comps and a quick look at the home to justify the lender giving you that much money.
June 22, 2010 at 9:01 AM #569028treehugger
ParticipantMy first appaisal came in at $10,000 above contract price. Then everything went haywire and second appraisal (completely different lender and appraisal company, but within 2 weeks) had to be done, it also came in at $10,000 above contract price.
My cousin bought in same neighborhood and closed the week before me, his appraisal also came in at $10,000 above contract price.
From what I saw there was a template they follow that includes pulling neighborhood comps and a quick look at the home to justify the lender giving you that much money.
June 22, 2010 at 9:01 AM #569124treehugger
ParticipantMy first appaisal came in at $10,000 above contract price. Then everything went haywire and second appraisal (completely different lender and appraisal company, but within 2 weeks) had to be done, it also came in at $10,000 above contract price.
My cousin bought in same neighborhood and closed the week before me, his appraisal also came in at $10,000 above contract price.
From what I saw there was a template they follow that includes pulling neighborhood comps and a quick look at the home to justify the lender giving you that much money.
June 22, 2010 at 9:01 AM #569736treehugger
ParticipantMy first appaisal came in at $10,000 above contract price. Then everything went haywire and second appraisal (completely different lender and appraisal company, but within 2 weeks) had to be done, it also came in at $10,000 above contract price.
My cousin bought in same neighborhood and closed the week before me, his appraisal also came in at $10,000 above contract price.
From what I saw there was a template they follow that includes pulling neighborhood comps and a quick look at the home to justify the lender giving you that much money.
June 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM #570023SD Realtor
ParticipantI have had appraisals vary as well on the same property when a second appraisal was ordered. Another tough call is properties on boundaries. There are areas where there can be extreme diversity and homes that may indeed look like comps may in reality not be due to environmental conditions that vary block by block.
June 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM #569129SD Realtor
ParticipantI have had appraisals vary as well on the same property when a second appraisal was ordered. Another tough call is properties on boundaries. There are areas where there can be extreme diversity and homes that may indeed look like comps may in reality not be due to environmental conditions that vary block by block.
June 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM #569636SD Realtor
ParticipantI have had appraisals vary as well on the same property when a second appraisal was ordered. Another tough call is properties on boundaries. There are areas where there can be extreme diversity and homes that may indeed look like comps may in reality not be due to environmental conditions that vary block by block.
June 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM #569033SD Realtor
ParticipantI have had appraisals vary as well on the same property when a second appraisal was ordered. Another tough call is properties on boundaries. There are areas where there can be extreme diversity and homes that may indeed look like comps may in reality not be due to environmental conditions that vary block by block.
June 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM #569741SD Realtor
ParticipantI have had appraisals vary as well on the same property when a second appraisal was ordered. Another tough call is properties on boundaries. There are areas where there can be extreme diversity and homes that may indeed look like comps may in reality not be due to environmental conditions that vary block by block.
June 22, 2010 at 6:01 PM #569451garysears
ParticipantI recently fell out of escrow on a multi-unit property. The appraiser absolutely DID see the contract. I was told it is required but I still can’t see why the contract should have any bearing on an independent opinion of the property value.
Much as there was lender pressure to “hit the number” during the bubble, I believe there is government pressure to “hit the number” in this down market. I was told that if appraisals vary by more than some certain percent (I can’t remember exactly how much) from the contract price, they are flagged by the government as potential bad appraisals or fraudulent. I believe this is creating pressure to hit the contract number.
In my case, all three appraisal values were almost exactly the same as my contract price. Somehow evaluating the property based on comps, rental value, and replacement value each yielded almost exactly my offer amount. Based on this experience I view the appraisal as completely worthless and I am really irritated I had to pay for such garbage.
There is NO justification in my mind for appraisers to see the contract. That destroys any hint of impartiality, especially if I am correct about government pressure to “hit the contract number”.
June 22, 2010 at 6:01 PM #569955garysears
ParticipantI recently fell out of escrow on a multi-unit property. The appraiser absolutely DID see the contract. I was told it is required but I still can’t see why the contract should have any bearing on an independent opinion of the property value.
Much as there was lender pressure to “hit the number” during the bubble, I believe there is government pressure to “hit the number” in this down market. I was told that if appraisals vary by more than some certain percent (I can’t remember exactly how much) from the contract price, they are flagged by the government as potential bad appraisals or fraudulent. I believe this is creating pressure to hit the contract number.
In my case, all three appraisal values were almost exactly the same as my contract price. Somehow evaluating the property based on comps, rental value, and replacement value each yielded almost exactly my offer amount. Based on this experience I view the appraisal as completely worthless and I am really irritated I had to pay for such garbage.
There is NO justification in my mind for appraisers to see the contract. That destroys any hint of impartiality, especially if I am correct about government pressure to “hit the contract number”.
June 22, 2010 at 6:01 PM #570061garysears
ParticipantI recently fell out of escrow on a multi-unit property. The appraiser absolutely DID see the contract. I was told it is required but I still can’t see why the contract should have any bearing on an independent opinion of the property value.
Much as there was lender pressure to “hit the number” during the bubble, I believe there is government pressure to “hit the number” in this down market. I was told that if appraisals vary by more than some certain percent (I can’t remember exactly how much) from the contract price, they are flagged by the government as potential bad appraisals or fraudulent. I believe this is creating pressure to hit the contract number.
In my case, all three appraisal values were almost exactly the same as my contract price. Somehow evaluating the property based on comps, rental value, and replacement value each yielded almost exactly my offer amount. Based on this experience I view the appraisal as completely worthless and I am really irritated I had to pay for such garbage.
There is NO justification in my mind for appraisers to see the contract. That destroys any hint of impartiality, especially if I am correct about government pressure to “hit the contract number”.
June 22, 2010 at 6:01 PM #570345garysears
ParticipantI recently fell out of escrow on a multi-unit property. The appraiser absolutely DID see the contract. I was told it is required but I still can’t see why the contract should have any bearing on an independent opinion of the property value.
Much as there was lender pressure to “hit the number” during the bubble, I believe there is government pressure to “hit the number” in this down market. I was told that if appraisals vary by more than some certain percent (I can’t remember exactly how much) from the contract price, they are flagged by the government as potential bad appraisals or fraudulent. I believe this is creating pressure to hit the contract number.
In my case, all three appraisal values were almost exactly the same as my contract price. Somehow evaluating the property based on comps, rental value, and replacement value each yielded almost exactly my offer amount. Based on this experience I view the appraisal as completely worthless and I am really irritated I had to pay for such garbage.
There is NO justification in my mind for appraisers to see the contract. That destroys any hint of impartiality, especially if I am correct about government pressure to “hit the contract number”.
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