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June 15, 2010 at 11:01 PM #566709June 22, 2010 at 12:56 AM #569513CA renterParticipant
[quote=sdrealtor]Appraiser’s get a copy of the contract and need to know about concessions and contract terms. My feeling is the appraiser’s are not coming up with fair market valuye but rather an opinion as to whether the price can be justified by recent closed sales. While in theory it should be possible for an appraisal to come in above the purchase price they very very rarely do. The appraiser has nothing to gain by appraising above the sales price and rather can create risk/liability for themselves by doing so.[/quote]
I thought they were changing the way appraisals were being done, and the new rules were supposed to forbid appraisers from seeing the contract or knowing the list/agreed-upon price?
June 22, 2010 at 12:56 AM #569618CA renterParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]Appraiser’s get a copy of the contract and need to know about concessions and contract terms. My feeling is the appraiser’s are not coming up with fair market valuye but rather an opinion as to whether the price can be justified by recent closed sales. While in theory it should be possible for an appraisal to come in above the purchase price they very very rarely do. The appraiser has nothing to gain by appraising above the sales price and rather can create risk/liability for themselves by doing so.[/quote]
I thought they were changing the way appraisals were being done, and the new rules were supposed to forbid appraisers from seeing the contract or knowing the list/agreed-upon price?
June 22, 2010 at 12:56 AM #569900CA renterParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]Appraiser’s get a copy of the contract and need to know about concessions and contract terms. My feeling is the appraiser’s are not coming up with fair market valuye but rather an opinion as to whether the price can be justified by recent closed sales. While in theory it should be possible for an appraisal to come in above the purchase price they very very rarely do. The appraiser has nothing to gain by appraising above the sales price and rather can create risk/liability for themselves by doing so.[/quote]
I thought they were changing the way appraisals were being done, and the new rules were supposed to forbid appraisers from seeing the contract or knowing the list/agreed-upon price?
June 22, 2010 at 12:56 AM #569005CA renterParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]Appraiser’s get a copy of the contract and need to know about concessions and contract terms. My feeling is the appraiser’s are not coming up with fair market valuye but rather an opinion as to whether the price can be justified by recent closed sales. While in theory it should be possible for an appraisal to come in above the purchase price they very very rarely do. The appraiser has nothing to gain by appraising above the sales price and rather can create risk/liability for themselves by doing so.[/quote]
I thought they were changing the way appraisals were being done, and the new rules were supposed to forbid appraisers from seeing the contract or knowing the list/agreed-upon price?
June 22, 2010 at 12:56 AM #568908CA renterParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]Appraiser’s get a copy of the contract and need to know about concessions and contract terms. My feeling is the appraiser’s are not coming up with fair market valuye but rather an opinion as to whether the price can be justified by recent closed sales. While in theory it should be possible for an appraisal to come in above the purchase price they very very rarely do. The appraiser has nothing to gain by appraising above the sales price and rather can create risk/liability for themselves by doing so.[/quote]
I thought they were changing the way appraisals were being done, and the new rules were supposed to forbid appraisers from seeing the contract or knowing the list/agreed-upon price?
June 22, 2010 at 7:19 AM #569940SD RealtorParticipantCAR the appraisers need to see the contract more for conditions/concessions then the price. Appraisals are done differently these days. Now independent appraisal management companies have been created. For most (but not all) loans the appraisal is ordered by the lender, the order is received by the management company, they contact an appraiser who goes out and does the appraisal. The appraisal is then submitted back to the management company who usually does their own review of the appraisal and then they send it to the lender. Copies could be made available for the party paying for the appraisal. I say most but not all because I think certain lenders like credit unions do not use the management companies but don’t quote me on that.
As far as where the price can come in at, it depends mostly on comps but concessions can play into it as well. SO for this situation, 8k below list price is, well, 8k below list. Ask the seller to reduce the price or the buyer needs to come up with the money. As far as the appraiser thinking that the price was different… well… that sounds like the appraiser kind of boofed it.
June 22, 2010 at 7:19 AM #569045SD RealtorParticipantCAR the appraisers need to see the contract more for conditions/concessions then the price. Appraisals are done differently these days. Now independent appraisal management companies have been created. For most (but not all) loans the appraisal is ordered by the lender, the order is received by the management company, they contact an appraiser who goes out and does the appraisal. The appraisal is then submitted back to the management company who usually does their own review of the appraisal and then they send it to the lender. Copies could be made available for the party paying for the appraisal. I say most but not all because I think certain lenders like credit unions do not use the management companies but don’t quote me on that.
As far as where the price can come in at, it depends mostly on comps but concessions can play into it as well. SO for this situation, 8k below list price is, well, 8k below list. Ask the seller to reduce the price or the buyer needs to come up with the money. As far as the appraiser thinking that the price was different… well… that sounds like the appraiser kind of boofed it.
June 22, 2010 at 7:19 AM #569658SD RealtorParticipantCAR the appraisers need to see the contract more for conditions/concessions then the price. Appraisals are done differently these days. Now independent appraisal management companies have been created. For most (but not all) loans the appraisal is ordered by the lender, the order is received by the management company, they contact an appraiser who goes out and does the appraisal. The appraisal is then submitted back to the management company who usually does their own review of the appraisal and then they send it to the lender. Copies could be made available for the party paying for the appraisal. I say most but not all because I think certain lenders like credit unions do not use the management companies but don’t quote me on that.
As far as where the price can come in at, it depends mostly on comps but concessions can play into it as well. SO for this situation, 8k below list price is, well, 8k below list. Ask the seller to reduce the price or the buyer needs to come up with the money. As far as the appraiser thinking that the price was different… well… that sounds like the appraiser kind of boofed it.
June 22, 2010 at 7:19 AM #568948SD RealtorParticipantCAR the appraisers need to see the contract more for conditions/concessions then the price. Appraisals are done differently these days. Now independent appraisal management companies have been created. For most (but not all) loans the appraisal is ordered by the lender, the order is received by the management company, they contact an appraiser who goes out and does the appraisal. The appraisal is then submitted back to the management company who usually does their own review of the appraisal and then they send it to the lender. Copies could be made available for the party paying for the appraisal. I say most but not all because I think certain lenders like credit unions do not use the management companies but don’t quote me on that.
As far as where the price can come in at, it depends mostly on comps but concessions can play into it as well. SO for this situation, 8k below list price is, well, 8k below list. Ask the seller to reduce the price or the buyer needs to come up with the money. As far as the appraiser thinking that the price was different… well… that sounds like the appraiser kind of boofed it.
June 22, 2010 at 7:19 AM #569552SD RealtorParticipantCAR the appraisers need to see the contract more for conditions/concessions then the price. Appraisals are done differently these days. Now independent appraisal management companies have been created. For most (but not all) loans the appraisal is ordered by the lender, the order is received by the management company, they contact an appraiser who goes out and does the appraisal. The appraisal is then submitted back to the management company who usually does their own review of the appraisal and then they send it to the lender. Copies could be made available for the party paying for the appraisal. I say most but not all because I think certain lenders like credit unions do not use the management companies but don’t quote me on that.
As far as where the price can come in at, it depends mostly on comps but concessions can play into it as well. SO for this situation, 8k below list price is, well, 8k below list. Ask the seller to reduce the price or the buyer needs to come up with the money. As far as the appraiser thinking that the price was different… well… that sounds like the appraiser kind of boofed it.
June 22, 2010 at 8:53 AM #570013allParticipantMy appraisal came 10% over the purchase price.
June 22, 2010 at 8:53 AM #569731allParticipantMy appraisal came 10% over the purchase price.
June 22, 2010 at 8:53 AM #569626allParticipantMy appraisal came 10% over the purchase price.
June 22, 2010 at 8:53 AM #569023allParticipantMy appraisal came 10% over the purchase price.
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