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February 18, 2008 at 8:58 PM #155603February 18, 2008 at 9:05 PM #155230BloatParticipant
I didn’t compare Teachers to Realtors, but as a whole I’ve read Realtors are low paid, but this is skewed by part-timers and the last 5 years, etc, so, I don’t have the facts to comment. I know the last few years have been very good and the shake-out of the undeserving is way overdue. I see the NAR as their union, effectively fixing commissions, etc.
I’m not sure of the investment to become a teacher. My best friend is one: 4 years at CSU + credential = job. Low pay to start like most other jobs. He agrees with me now that he makes $70k after 15 years & he doesn’t work much at home. You have a point regarding gangs, etc. The good teachers who can make a difference in the inner-city deserve $bonus, but no, the union won’t let that happen (which is my point).
No, I didn’t mention Cops because I think they deserve more. Firefighters in one sentence: Work three days a week, sleep at work, eat at work, goof off at work, great benefits, work all the ot you want, make +$100k, retire after 20 years AND you can work another job at the same time.
ftr: I’m a CPA and I do take work home (when I’m working)
February 18, 2008 at 9:05 PM #155508BloatParticipantI didn’t compare Teachers to Realtors, but as a whole I’ve read Realtors are low paid, but this is skewed by part-timers and the last 5 years, etc, so, I don’t have the facts to comment. I know the last few years have been very good and the shake-out of the undeserving is way overdue. I see the NAR as their union, effectively fixing commissions, etc.
I’m not sure of the investment to become a teacher. My best friend is one: 4 years at CSU + credential = job. Low pay to start like most other jobs. He agrees with me now that he makes $70k after 15 years & he doesn’t work much at home. You have a point regarding gangs, etc. The good teachers who can make a difference in the inner-city deserve $bonus, but no, the union won’t let that happen (which is my point).
No, I didn’t mention Cops because I think they deserve more. Firefighters in one sentence: Work three days a week, sleep at work, eat at work, goof off at work, great benefits, work all the ot you want, make +$100k, retire after 20 years AND you can work another job at the same time.
ftr: I’m a CPA and I do take work home (when I’m working)
February 18, 2008 at 9:05 PM #155515BloatParticipantI didn’t compare Teachers to Realtors, but as a whole I’ve read Realtors are low paid, but this is skewed by part-timers and the last 5 years, etc, so, I don’t have the facts to comment. I know the last few years have been very good and the shake-out of the undeserving is way overdue. I see the NAR as their union, effectively fixing commissions, etc.
I’m not sure of the investment to become a teacher. My best friend is one: 4 years at CSU + credential = job. Low pay to start like most other jobs. He agrees with me now that he makes $70k after 15 years & he doesn’t work much at home. You have a point regarding gangs, etc. The good teachers who can make a difference in the inner-city deserve $bonus, but no, the union won’t let that happen (which is my point).
No, I didn’t mention Cops because I think they deserve more. Firefighters in one sentence: Work three days a week, sleep at work, eat at work, goof off at work, great benefits, work all the ot you want, make +$100k, retire after 20 years AND you can work another job at the same time.
ftr: I’m a CPA and I do take work home (when I’m working)
February 18, 2008 at 9:05 PM #155532BloatParticipantI didn’t compare Teachers to Realtors, but as a whole I’ve read Realtors are low paid, but this is skewed by part-timers and the last 5 years, etc, so, I don’t have the facts to comment. I know the last few years have been very good and the shake-out of the undeserving is way overdue. I see the NAR as their union, effectively fixing commissions, etc.
I’m not sure of the investment to become a teacher. My best friend is one: 4 years at CSU + credential = job. Low pay to start like most other jobs. He agrees with me now that he makes $70k after 15 years & he doesn’t work much at home. You have a point regarding gangs, etc. The good teachers who can make a difference in the inner-city deserve $bonus, but no, the union won’t let that happen (which is my point).
No, I didn’t mention Cops because I think they deserve more. Firefighters in one sentence: Work three days a week, sleep at work, eat at work, goof off at work, great benefits, work all the ot you want, make +$100k, retire after 20 years AND you can work another job at the same time.
ftr: I’m a CPA and I do take work home (when I’m working)
February 18, 2008 at 9:05 PM #155608BloatParticipantI didn’t compare Teachers to Realtors, but as a whole I’ve read Realtors are low paid, but this is skewed by part-timers and the last 5 years, etc, so, I don’t have the facts to comment. I know the last few years have been very good and the shake-out of the undeserving is way overdue. I see the NAR as their union, effectively fixing commissions, etc.
I’m not sure of the investment to become a teacher. My best friend is one: 4 years at CSU + credential = job. Low pay to start like most other jobs. He agrees with me now that he makes $70k after 15 years & he doesn’t work much at home. You have a point regarding gangs, etc. The good teachers who can make a difference in the inner-city deserve $bonus, but no, the union won’t let that happen (which is my point).
No, I didn’t mention Cops because I think they deserve more. Firefighters in one sentence: Work three days a week, sleep at work, eat at work, goof off at work, great benefits, work all the ot you want, make +$100k, retire after 20 years AND you can work another job at the same time.
ftr: I’m a CPA and I do take work home (when I’m working)
February 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM #155265SD RealtorParticipantjp – No offense taken at all. Actually I am a EE. I supervise a staff of digital designers and I am an architect for custom ASICs (computer chips) that are used in network applications. I have done that for about 20 years. In addition to supervising my staff I also architect the designs, assist in verification and write some of the source code used in designs. Oh yeah and I also own a real estate brokerage.
So when you talk about most realtors not being to far up the intelligence ladder, I think I know what you mean.
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Vagabondo I think prop 13 has accomplished the main goal of what it was intended which was essentiall to protect long time homeowners from the rapidly rising tax liability that they were being asked to support. In this sense I think it has been wildly successful. In my opinion Mello Roos fees are 100% up to the buyer, if they want to undertake them then no problem. If they don’t want to undertake them, so be it, they can buy somewhere else. Personally I choose not to pay them.
As far as the school systems are concerned I pretty much agree with your thoughts. I just am not so sure MR fees dictate a better school. It just doesn’t wash with me. As a parent with two toddlers I will be dealing with it soon. I also heartily agree that the decline in our schools is due to the sheer numbers of kids that attend them. Obviously the tax base cannot support those numbers so somewhere there is a problem. Could it be due to illegal immigration? Perhaps… I just don’t know. Perhaps teachers are underpaid or that there are simply not enough teachers or facilities, I am in agreement with you that somehow, somewhere there is a real screw up and the funds are simply not spent wisely or misallocated in some manner.
SD Realtor
February 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM #155543SD RealtorParticipantjp – No offense taken at all. Actually I am a EE. I supervise a staff of digital designers and I am an architect for custom ASICs (computer chips) that are used in network applications. I have done that for about 20 years. In addition to supervising my staff I also architect the designs, assist in verification and write some of the source code used in designs. Oh yeah and I also own a real estate brokerage.
So when you talk about most realtors not being to far up the intelligence ladder, I think I know what you mean.
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Vagabondo I think prop 13 has accomplished the main goal of what it was intended which was essentiall to protect long time homeowners from the rapidly rising tax liability that they were being asked to support. In this sense I think it has been wildly successful. In my opinion Mello Roos fees are 100% up to the buyer, if they want to undertake them then no problem. If they don’t want to undertake them, so be it, they can buy somewhere else. Personally I choose not to pay them.
As far as the school systems are concerned I pretty much agree with your thoughts. I just am not so sure MR fees dictate a better school. It just doesn’t wash with me. As a parent with two toddlers I will be dealing with it soon. I also heartily agree that the decline in our schools is due to the sheer numbers of kids that attend them. Obviously the tax base cannot support those numbers so somewhere there is a problem. Could it be due to illegal immigration? Perhaps… I just don’t know. Perhaps teachers are underpaid or that there are simply not enough teachers or facilities, I am in agreement with you that somehow, somewhere there is a real screw up and the funds are simply not spent wisely or misallocated in some manner.
SD Realtor
February 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM #155550SD RealtorParticipantjp – No offense taken at all. Actually I am a EE. I supervise a staff of digital designers and I am an architect for custom ASICs (computer chips) that are used in network applications. I have done that for about 20 years. In addition to supervising my staff I also architect the designs, assist in verification and write some of the source code used in designs. Oh yeah and I also own a real estate brokerage.
So when you talk about most realtors not being to far up the intelligence ladder, I think I know what you mean.
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Vagabondo I think prop 13 has accomplished the main goal of what it was intended which was essentiall to protect long time homeowners from the rapidly rising tax liability that they were being asked to support. In this sense I think it has been wildly successful. In my opinion Mello Roos fees are 100% up to the buyer, if they want to undertake them then no problem. If they don’t want to undertake them, so be it, they can buy somewhere else. Personally I choose not to pay them.
As far as the school systems are concerned I pretty much agree with your thoughts. I just am not so sure MR fees dictate a better school. It just doesn’t wash with me. As a parent with two toddlers I will be dealing with it soon. I also heartily agree that the decline in our schools is due to the sheer numbers of kids that attend them. Obviously the tax base cannot support those numbers so somewhere there is a problem. Could it be due to illegal immigration? Perhaps… I just don’t know. Perhaps teachers are underpaid or that there are simply not enough teachers or facilities, I am in agreement with you that somehow, somewhere there is a real screw up and the funds are simply not spent wisely or misallocated in some manner.
SD Realtor
February 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM #155567SD RealtorParticipantjp – No offense taken at all. Actually I am a EE. I supervise a staff of digital designers and I am an architect for custom ASICs (computer chips) that are used in network applications. I have done that for about 20 years. In addition to supervising my staff I also architect the designs, assist in verification and write some of the source code used in designs. Oh yeah and I also own a real estate brokerage.
So when you talk about most realtors not being to far up the intelligence ladder, I think I know what you mean.
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Vagabondo I think prop 13 has accomplished the main goal of what it was intended which was essentiall to protect long time homeowners from the rapidly rising tax liability that they were being asked to support. In this sense I think it has been wildly successful. In my opinion Mello Roos fees are 100% up to the buyer, if they want to undertake them then no problem. If they don’t want to undertake them, so be it, they can buy somewhere else. Personally I choose not to pay them.
As far as the school systems are concerned I pretty much agree with your thoughts. I just am not so sure MR fees dictate a better school. It just doesn’t wash with me. As a parent with two toddlers I will be dealing with it soon. I also heartily agree that the decline in our schools is due to the sheer numbers of kids that attend them. Obviously the tax base cannot support those numbers so somewhere there is a problem. Could it be due to illegal immigration? Perhaps… I just don’t know. Perhaps teachers are underpaid or that there are simply not enough teachers or facilities, I am in agreement with you that somehow, somewhere there is a real screw up and the funds are simply not spent wisely or misallocated in some manner.
SD Realtor
February 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM #155643SD RealtorParticipantjp – No offense taken at all. Actually I am a EE. I supervise a staff of digital designers and I am an architect for custom ASICs (computer chips) that are used in network applications. I have done that for about 20 years. In addition to supervising my staff I also architect the designs, assist in verification and write some of the source code used in designs. Oh yeah and I also own a real estate brokerage.
So when you talk about most realtors not being to far up the intelligence ladder, I think I know what you mean.
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Vagabondo I think prop 13 has accomplished the main goal of what it was intended which was essentiall to protect long time homeowners from the rapidly rising tax liability that they were being asked to support. In this sense I think it has been wildly successful. In my opinion Mello Roos fees are 100% up to the buyer, if they want to undertake them then no problem. If they don’t want to undertake them, so be it, they can buy somewhere else. Personally I choose not to pay them.
As far as the school systems are concerned I pretty much agree with your thoughts. I just am not so sure MR fees dictate a better school. It just doesn’t wash with me. As a parent with two toddlers I will be dealing with it soon. I also heartily agree that the decline in our schools is due to the sheer numbers of kids that attend them. Obviously the tax base cannot support those numbers so somewhere there is a problem. Could it be due to illegal immigration? Perhaps… I just don’t know. Perhaps teachers are underpaid or that there are simply not enough teachers or facilities, I am in agreement with you that somehow, somewhere there is a real screw up and the funds are simply not spent wisely or misallocated in some manner.
SD Realtor
February 18, 2008 at 10:56 PM #155330sdrealtorParticipantDefinitely Pat’s here also.
February 18, 2008 at 10:56 PM #155610sdrealtorParticipantDefinitely Pat’s here also.
February 18, 2008 at 10:56 PM #155616sdrealtorParticipantDefinitely Pat’s here also.
February 18, 2008 at 10:56 PM #155631sdrealtorParticipantDefinitely Pat’s here also.
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