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December 19, 2007 at 11:18 AM #120571December 19, 2007 at 11:33 AM #120741(former)FormerSanDieganParticipant
Excellent topic. It is definitely getting closer to parity out there for buy/rent scenarios. Another 10-15% in some areas would do it. Two years ago you wouldn’t even have had to sharpen your pencil (or pop open a spreadsheet) to do these calculations.
December 19, 2007 at 11:33 AM #120822(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantExcellent topic. It is definitely getting closer to parity out there for buy/rent scenarios. Another 10-15% in some areas would do it. Two years ago you wouldn’t even have had to sharpen your pencil (or pop open a spreadsheet) to do these calculations.
December 19, 2007 at 11:33 AM #120844(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantExcellent topic. It is definitely getting closer to parity out there for buy/rent scenarios. Another 10-15% in some areas would do it. Two years ago you wouldn’t even have had to sharpen your pencil (or pop open a spreadsheet) to do these calculations.
December 19, 2007 at 11:33 AM #120776(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantExcellent topic. It is definitely getting closer to parity out there for buy/rent scenarios. Another 10-15% in some areas would do it. Two years ago you wouldn’t even have had to sharpen your pencil (or pop open a spreadsheet) to do these calculations.
December 19, 2007 at 11:33 AM #120609(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantExcellent topic. It is definitely getting closer to parity out there for buy/rent scenarios. Another 10-15% in some areas would do it. Two years ago you wouldn’t even have had to sharpen your pencil (or pop open a spreadsheet) to do these calculations.
December 19, 2007 at 12:13 PM #120763sdrealtorParticipantWe are defintely getter closer. If you missed it on another thread: A duplex just sold in La Costa for $880K. It was in very nice shape and on a 13000 sq ft lot (all usuable). The backyards were both sizeable. Each side was 3BR plus a den that easily could have been a 4th BR. They were over 2300 sq ft each and had 2 car garages. Each side should rent for about 2500 and there are no fees at all associated with the property. It was probably the best deal I’ve seen in several years.
December 19, 2007 at 12:13 PM #120797sdrealtorParticipantWe are defintely getter closer. If you missed it on another thread: A duplex just sold in La Costa for $880K. It was in very nice shape and on a 13000 sq ft lot (all usuable). The backyards were both sizeable. Each side was 3BR plus a den that easily could have been a 4th BR. They were over 2300 sq ft each and had 2 car garages. Each side should rent for about 2500 and there are no fees at all associated with the property. It was probably the best deal I’ve seen in several years.
December 19, 2007 at 12:13 PM #120864sdrealtorParticipantWe are defintely getter closer. If you missed it on another thread: A duplex just sold in La Costa for $880K. It was in very nice shape and on a 13000 sq ft lot (all usuable). The backyards were both sizeable. Each side was 3BR plus a den that easily could have been a 4th BR. They were over 2300 sq ft each and had 2 car garages. Each side should rent for about 2500 and there are no fees at all associated with the property. It was probably the best deal I’ve seen in several years.
December 19, 2007 at 12:13 PM #120629sdrealtorParticipantWe are defintely getter closer. If you missed it on another thread: A duplex just sold in La Costa for $880K. It was in very nice shape and on a 13000 sq ft lot (all usuable). The backyards were both sizeable. Each side was 3BR plus a den that easily could have been a 4th BR. They were over 2300 sq ft each and had 2 car garages. Each side should rent for about 2500 and there are no fees at all associated with the property. It was probably the best deal I’ve seen in several years.
December 19, 2007 at 12:13 PM #120842sdrealtorParticipantWe are defintely getter closer. If you missed it on another thread: A duplex just sold in La Costa for $880K. It was in very nice shape and on a 13000 sq ft lot (all usuable). The backyards were both sizeable. Each side was 3BR plus a den that easily could have been a 4th BR. They were over 2300 sq ft each and had 2 car garages. Each side should rent for about 2500 and there are no fees at all associated with the property. It was probably the best deal I’ve seen in several years.
December 19, 2007 at 12:41 PM #120903kev374ParticipantThis is in South OC:
Cheapest 3 bedroom/1750sqft condo I could find in Mission Viejo (that doesn’t look like it was in a tornado) was $450k + $340 HOA + $150 maintainence
PITI+HOA+maintainence on that (with zero down if that is even possible) would be $3,558. I could rent that same unit for under $2000/mo. so we’re looking at a 40% decline πAnd this is for the CHEAPEST Condo. If I were to rent I could find nicer units and have A LOT of choice for my money.
Plus what about the fact that if I buy I will be locking myself into a commitment and lose my flexibility to just get up and go? That is worth a lot as well.
So buying now may seem to equalize but when you factor in everything it just doesn’t pan out!!
Note about the tax savings…that doesn’t work in all cases since you have to itemize to deduct mortgage interest. If you’re a couple and get $11,000 for a standard deduction and if you’re deducting $11,000 in mortgage interest your effective “tax savings” from purchasing a home is ZERO! Now if you deduct State taxes while itemizing you may hit AMT. So have to check with tax advisor to truly determine how much savings you will have.
December 19, 2007 at 12:41 PM #120924kev374ParticipantThis is in South OC:
Cheapest 3 bedroom/1750sqft condo I could find in Mission Viejo (that doesn’t look like it was in a tornado) was $450k + $340 HOA + $150 maintainence
PITI+HOA+maintainence on that (with zero down if that is even possible) would be $3,558. I could rent that same unit for under $2000/mo. so we’re looking at a 40% decline πAnd this is for the CHEAPEST Condo. If I were to rent I could find nicer units and have A LOT of choice for my money.
Plus what about the fact that if I buy I will be locking myself into a commitment and lose my flexibility to just get up and go? That is worth a lot as well.
So buying now may seem to equalize but when you factor in everything it just doesn’t pan out!!
Note about the tax savings…that doesn’t work in all cases since you have to itemize to deduct mortgage interest. If you’re a couple and get $11,000 for a standard deduction and if you’re deducting $11,000 in mortgage interest your effective “tax savings” from purchasing a home is ZERO! Now if you deduct State taxes while itemizing you may hit AMT. So have to check with tax advisor to truly determine how much savings you will have.
December 19, 2007 at 12:41 PM #120858kev374ParticipantThis is in South OC:
Cheapest 3 bedroom/1750sqft condo I could find in Mission Viejo (that doesn’t look like it was in a tornado) was $450k + $340 HOA + $150 maintainence
PITI+HOA+maintainence on that (with zero down if that is even possible) would be $3,558. I could rent that same unit for under $2000/mo. so we’re looking at a 40% decline πAnd this is for the CHEAPEST Condo. If I were to rent I could find nicer units and have A LOT of choice for my money.
Plus what about the fact that if I buy I will be locking myself into a commitment and lose my flexibility to just get up and go? That is worth a lot as well.
So buying now may seem to equalize but when you factor in everything it just doesn’t pan out!!
Note about the tax savings…that doesn’t work in all cases since you have to itemize to deduct mortgage interest. If you’re a couple and get $11,000 for a standard deduction and if you’re deducting $11,000 in mortgage interest your effective “tax savings” from purchasing a home is ZERO! Now if you deduct State taxes while itemizing you may hit AMT. So have to check with tax advisor to truly determine how much savings you will have.
December 19, 2007 at 12:41 PM #120821kev374ParticipantThis is in South OC:
Cheapest 3 bedroom/1750sqft condo I could find in Mission Viejo (that doesn’t look like it was in a tornado) was $450k + $340 HOA + $150 maintainence
PITI+HOA+maintainence on that (with zero down if that is even possible) would be $3,558. I could rent that same unit for under $2000/mo. so we’re looking at a 40% decline πAnd this is for the CHEAPEST Condo. If I were to rent I could find nicer units and have A LOT of choice for my money.
Plus what about the fact that if I buy I will be locking myself into a commitment and lose my flexibility to just get up and go? That is worth a lot as well.
So buying now may seem to equalize but when you factor in everything it just doesn’t pan out!!
Note about the tax savings…that doesn’t work in all cases since you have to itemize to deduct mortgage interest. If you’re a couple and get $11,000 for a standard deduction and if you’re deducting $11,000 in mortgage interest your effective “tax savings” from purchasing a home is ZERO! Now if you deduct State taxes while itemizing you may hit AMT. So have to check with tax advisor to truly determine how much savings you will have.
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