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January 27, 2010 at 10:51 PM #506845January 27, 2010 at 11:11 PM #506942duncbduncParticipant
Thanks SDR. My reply to Eugene was poorly worded. What I meant to say is that the area (Poway) has many micro markets. Green Valley, Bridlewood, Bridlewood Lakeside, Huntington Gate, The Grove, Country Squire Estates, etc, etc, etc. It seems like it will take a good amount of time to build a local knowledge adequate enough to identify when/if there’s a deal to be had (or visa versa). Probably one of those markets where a local realtor could be very useful.
January 27, 2010 at 11:11 PM #506440duncbduncParticipantThanks SDR. My reply to Eugene was poorly worded. What I meant to say is that the area (Poway) has many micro markets. Green Valley, Bridlewood, Bridlewood Lakeside, Huntington Gate, The Grove, Country Squire Estates, etc, etc, etc. It seems like it will take a good amount of time to build a local knowledge adequate enough to identify when/if there’s a deal to be had (or visa versa). Probably one of those markets where a local realtor could be very useful.
January 27, 2010 at 11:11 PM #507197duncbduncParticipantThanks SDR. My reply to Eugene was poorly worded. What I meant to say is that the area (Poway) has many micro markets. Green Valley, Bridlewood, Bridlewood Lakeside, Huntington Gate, The Grove, Country Squire Estates, etc, etc, etc. It seems like it will take a good amount of time to build a local knowledge adequate enough to identify when/if there’s a deal to be had (or visa versa). Probably one of those markets where a local realtor could be very useful.
January 27, 2010 at 11:11 PM #506850duncbduncParticipantThanks SDR. My reply to Eugene was poorly worded. What I meant to say is that the area (Poway) has many micro markets. Green Valley, Bridlewood, Bridlewood Lakeside, Huntington Gate, The Grove, Country Squire Estates, etc, etc, etc. It seems like it will take a good amount of time to build a local knowledge adequate enough to identify when/if there’s a deal to be had (or visa versa). Probably one of those markets where a local realtor could be very useful.
January 27, 2010 at 11:11 PM #506293duncbduncParticipantThanks SDR. My reply to Eugene was poorly worded. What I meant to say is that the area (Poway) has many micro markets. Green Valley, Bridlewood, Bridlewood Lakeside, Huntington Gate, The Grove, Country Squire Estates, etc, etc, etc. It seems like it will take a good amount of time to build a local knowledge adequate enough to identify when/if there’s a deal to be had (or visa versa). Probably one of those markets where a local realtor could be very useful.
January 27, 2010 at 11:30 PM #506947temeculaguyParticipantAs a rule of thumb, if a micromarket has great schools, it hasn’t returned to fundamentals compared to the rest of the county. As a whole, the countywide prices, relative to income have returned to their averages over the last few decades, Rich has made some nice graphs which he updates often and can be seen in the archives of the main page. The coast from Del Mar to Carlsbad and the Poway district areas are the low crime/great schools regions, they have resisted similar drops for the most part. Within each area, the different price points have had different reactions but it’s close enough.
Here’s the problem, which will be revealed if you read this blog for very long. The educated upper middle class are the folks that like these areas, they are also the type of folks that research things and participate in our little forum. They are also the folks who aren’t devastated as much by the economic downturn. So we have a little stand off going in a few markets, get some popcorn, it should get interesting.
Since you are new, can I ask you a question, what made you look at poway and what were your other top choices (I bet i can guess?)
I have a theory why the sticky areas are bucking the trend and may escape altogether. Whenever someone with some money, some smarts and a family comes to live in this region, they focus on just a few areas. It may be contributing to the seemingly endless demand in those areas when everyone is supposed to be broke and unable to get a loan. No matter how many soup lines in detroit they show on the news, people with money seem to be cruising Carlsbad for a house.
January 27, 2010 at 11:30 PM #506854temeculaguyParticipantAs a rule of thumb, if a micromarket has great schools, it hasn’t returned to fundamentals compared to the rest of the county. As a whole, the countywide prices, relative to income have returned to their averages over the last few decades, Rich has made some nice graphs which he updates often and can be seen in the archives of the main page. The coast from Del Mar to Carlsbad and the Poway district areas are the low crime/great schools regions, they have resisted similar drops for the most part. Within each area, the different price points have had different reactions but it’s close enough.
Here’s the problem, which will be revealed if you read this blog for very long. The educated upper middle class are the folks that like these areas, they are also the type of folks that research things and participate in our little forum. They are also the folks who aren’t devastated as much by the economic downturn. So we have a little stand off going in a few markets, get some popcorn, it should get interesting.
Since you are new, can I ask you a question, what made you look at poway and what were your other top choices (I bet i can guess?)
I have a theory why the sticky areas are bucking the trend and may escape altogether. Whenever someone with some money, some smarts and a family comes to live in this region, they focus on just a few areas. It may be contributing to the seemingly endless demand in those areas when everyone is supposed to be broke and unable to get a loan. No matter how many soup lines in detroit they show on the news, people with money seem to be cruising Carlsbad for a house.
January 27, 2010 at 11:30 PM #507202temeculaguyParticipantAs a rule of thumb, if a micromarket has great schools, it hasn’t returned to fundamentals compared to the rest of the county. As a whole, the countywide prices, relative to income have returned to their averages over the last few decades, Rich has made some nice graphs which he updates often and can be seen in the archives of the main page. The coast from Del Mar to Carlsbad and the Poway district areas are the low crime/great schools regions, they have resisted similar drops for the most part. Within each area, the different price points have had different reactions but it’s close enough.
Here’s the problem, which will be revealed if you read this blog for very long. The educated upper middle class are the folks that like these areas, they are also the type of folks that research things and participate in our little forum. They are also the folks who aren’t devastated as much by the economic downturn. So we have a little stand off going in a few markets, get some popcorn, it should get interesting.
Since you are new, can I ask you a question, what made you look at poway and what were your other top choices (I bet i can guess?)
I have a theory why the sticky areas are bucking the trend and may escape altogether. Whenever someone with some money, some smarts and a family comes to live in this region, they focus on just a few areas. It may be contributing to the seemingly endless demand in those areas when everyone is supposed to be broke and unable to get a loan. No matter how many soup lines in detroit they show on the news, people with money seem to be cruising Carlsbad for a house.
January 27, 2010 at 11:30 PM #506298temeculaguyParticipantAs a rule of thumb, if a micromarket has great schools, it hasn’t returned to fundamentals compared to the rest of the county. As a whole, the countywide prices, relative to income have returned to their averages over the last few decades, Rich has made some nice graphs which he updates often and can be seen in the archives of the main page. The coast from Del Mar to Carlsbad and the Poway district areas are the low crime/great schools regions, they have resisted similar drops for the most part. Within each area, the different price points have had different reactions but it’s close enough.
Here’s the problem, which will be revealed if you read this blog for very long. The educated upper middle class are the folks that like these areas, they are also the type of folks that research things and participate in our little forum. They are also the folks who aren’t devastated as much by the economic downturn. So we have a little stand off going in a few markets, get some popcorn, it should get interesting.
Since you are new, can I ask you a question, what made you look at poway and what were your other top choices (I bet i can guess?)
I have a theory why the sticky areas are bucking the trend and may escape altogether. Whenever someone with some money, some smarts and a family comes to live in this region, they focus on just a few areas. It may be contributing to the seemingly endless demand in those areas when everyone is supposed to be broke and unable to get a loan. No matter how many soup lines in detroit they show on the news, people with money seem to be cruising Carlsbad for a house.
January 27, 2010 at 11:30 PM #506445temeculaguyParticipantAs a rule of thumb, if a micromarket has great schools, it hasn’t returned to fundamentals compared to the rest of the county. As a whole, the countywide prices, relative to income have returned to their averages over the last few decades, Rich has made some nice graphs which he updates often and can be seen in the archives of the main page. The coast from Del Mar to Carlsbad and the Poway district areas are the low crime/great schools regions, they have resisted similar drops for the most part. Within each area, the different price points have had different reactions but it’s close enough.
Here’s the problem, which will be revealed if you read this blog for very long. The educated upper middle class are the folks that like these areas, they are also the type of folks that research things and participate in our little forum. They are also the folks who aren’t devastated as much by the economic downturn. So we have a little stand off going in a few markets, get some popcorn, it should get interesting.
Since you are new, can I ask you a question, what made you look at poway and what were your other top choices (I bet i can guess?)
I have a theory why the sticky areas are bucking the trend and may escape altogether. Whenever someone with some money, some smarts and a family comes to live in this region, they focus on just a few areas. It may be contributing to the seemingly endless demand in those areas when everyone is supposed to be broke and unable to get a loan. No matter how many soup lines in detroit they show on the news, people with money seem to be cruising Carlsbad for a house.
January 27, 2010 at 11:41 PM #506303duncbduncParticipantLong time reader, long time bear and long time renter. I understand the dynamics occuring in the high and low ends of the real estate market. I also have a good bearing of what fair value is for most coastal markets and the 56 corridor. But I have never considered Poway as an option until recently. Because of the reasons stated earlier, I feel like I’m a neophyte again. This is a weird feeling given how much time I’ve invested in understanding the local (and national) R.E. market. I’ve been watching this bubble since 2002. Surprised at how long it lasted, and even more surprised at how long its taken to deflate, particularly in the areas you mention, since these are the areas of focus.
January 27, 2010 at 11:41 PM #506952duncbduncParticipantLong time reader, long time bear and long time renter. I understand the dynamics occuring in the high and low ends of the real estate market. I also have a good bearing of what fair value is for most coastal markets and the 56 corridor. But I have never considered Poway as an option until recently. Because of the reasons stated earlier, I feel like I’m a neophyte again. This is a weird feeling given how much time I’ve invested in understanding the local (and national) R.E. market. I’ve been watching this bubble since 2002. Surprised at how long it lasted, and even more surprised at how long its taken to deflate, particularly in the areas you mention, since these are the areas of focus.
January 27, 2010 at 11:41 PM #506860duncbduncParticipantLong time reader, long time bear and long time renter. I understand the dynamics occuring in the high and low ends of the real estate market. I also have a good bearing of what fair value is for most coastal markets and the 56 corridor. But I have never considered Poway as an option until recently. Because of the reasons stated earlier, I feel like I’m a neophyte again. This is a weird feeling given how much time I’ve invested in understanding the local (and national) R.E. market. I’ve been watching this bubble since 2002. Surprised at how long it lasted, and even more surprised at how long its taken to deflate, particularly in the areas you mention, since these are the areas of focus.
January 27, 2010 at 11:41 PM #507207duncbduncParticipantLong time reader, long time bear and long time renter. I understand the dynamics occuring in the high and low ends of the real estate market. I also have a good bearing of what fair value is for most coastal markets and the 56 corridor. But I have never considered Poway as an option until recently. Because of the reasons stated earlier, I feel like I’m a neophyte again. This is a weird feeling given how much time I’ve invested in understanding the local (and national) R.E. market. I’ve been watching this bubble since 2002. Surprised at how long it lasted, and even more surprised at how long its taken to deflate, particularly in the areas you mention, since these are the areas of focus.
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