Piggs Defend Filner!

[Butleroftwo]

There is a very disturbing thread on this site that has defense of Filner comments and comments that he is still better than his opponent in the mayors race. This is disgusting.

[paramount]

You sound surprised, don’t forget filner was put in office by public employee unions.

They spent millions getting filner elected.

I guarantee 90% or more of those defending filner are associated with public employee unions one way or another.

[spdrun]

Not defending him, but there’s a higher % of sociopaths among politicians than among human society at large, so this sort of thing likely isn’t uncommon. He just happened to be caught with his schlong hanging out, so to speak.

[bearishgurl]

The most-recent and “15th victim” was a senior-citizen volunteer coordinator for the City. She HAD to have been ~300 lbs (275 min) and at LEAST as old as the mayor. I’m just having a HARD TIME believing that “Mayor Feely Mealy” came onto her, ESP in the manner that she said he did LOL …

If she is filing a claim on the City for this alleged “behavior,” then she needs to be interviewed extensively, as do her “witnesses” and again, any resident flies on the wall.

Because the ever-present Allred is literally “speaking” for this “victim,” my take is that the 15th victim (and a few prior “victims”) have filed or are filing a claim with the City for sexual harassment as we all know that Allred doesn’t work for free :=]

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=gov&group=00001-01000&file=910-913.2

Some Piggs might laugh, but even though I am not a current resident of SD, I DO feel for it and have longtime friends who work in this “system” and want only what is in the best interest of its citizenry. And that is to summarily SHUT DOWN any bogus claims of “emotional distress” and get on with the business of the City.

My stance isn’t about Feelner at all. It’s about SD’s RESIDENTS and also in the City maintaining (if at all possible) its “position” as “America’s Finest City.”

And NO, DeMaio wasn’t and isn’t the answer. SD would have been much WORSE OFF with DeMaio left “in charge.” You people just can’t even imagine the havoc with City finances that his particular (problematic) ego would surely cause … straight out of the gate. SD taxpayers would have surely been on the hook for MILLIONS in legal bills generated by DeMaio’s (delusional) ego. He had and has no regard for THE LAW. It was his way or the highway. Had he actually been elected, SD’s tragic downfall would have been that the Justices just don’t see it his way.

DeMaio can’t fix it … and YOU can’t “fix it,” folks. It is what it is. Filner is smart enough to realize he must work within the “system” created long ago.

That’s all I’m saying. WE DON’T REALLY KNOW how many of these “so-called victims” are actually legitimate. Have you ever heard of copycat opportunists?

Unless proven in court otherwise, give Filner the benefit of the doubt and let him lead … for now.

Are there any viable alternatives currently “waiting in the wings” to run for SD mayor? Ask yourselves why there was such little interest in the last mayoral campaign …

[CA renter]

Much like how “racism” is being hyped in every case where a black person is involved, the “sexism/harassment” thing is wearing thin, as well.

Look, there are lots of awkward, inept men (and women) out there who have no idea how to ask a woman (or man) out on a date. Just because they’re inept doesn’t mean they are trying to sexually harass anyone.

If they are turned down and refuse to stop, or if they threaten someone’s job, etc., then it’s a problem, but let’s not make more of something than it really is. I’m sure many of us have had a boss (or two, or three…) try to pick up on us. Lots of guys are pretty gross when they try to pick up on a woman. Just tell him to knock it off and, if he’s married, threaten to tell his wife if he ever does anything like that again. Then, get on with life.

Why did all these women wait until now to come out of the woodwork? The timing of this is very suspicious, IMHO.

Everybody wants to be a victim these days, and it’s getting really, really old. People need to stop being such wimps.

[spdrun]

^^^

Big difference between being a groper like Feelner and merely trying to pick people up.

For the record, I see NOTHING wrong with attempting (and/or succeeding in) “picking up” someone within a professional relationship or dating one’s boss, client, underling, or cow-orker. So long as everyone is over the age of consent and doesn’t express aversion, it’s none of anyone’s god-damned business.

[FlyerInHi]

BG, DeMaio was not a bad choice. He was supported by Irwin Jacobs. Seems like a pretty level-headed centrist endorsement.

The legal fights might cost several millions but might save billions over decades.

I don’t vote in SD anymore anyway.

[ucodegen]

[quote=bearishgurl]The most-recent and “15th victim” was a senior-citizen volunteer coordinator for the City.[/quote] I think she is the 16th. That said it could be 15th. On TV, I don’t know if ch8 or 10.. I am pretty sure they said 16th. I read some postings that said 15th. Is there anyone with a running tally w/ names?

[quote=bearishgurl]She HAD to have been ~300 lbs (275 min) and at LEAST as old as the mayor. I’m just having a HARD TIME believing that “Mayor Feely Mealy” came onto her, ESP in the manner that she said he did LOL …[/quote] True.. but realize who Swartzenegger dipped his wick into… even having a child from.

[quote=bearishgurl]And NO, DeMaio wasn’t and isn’t the answer. SD would have been much WORSE OFF with DeMaio left “in charge.” You people just can’t even imagine the havoc with City finances that his particular (problematic) ego would surely cause … straight out of the gate. [/quote] In that case it would be the same as Filner.. because Filener is known for his ego… and that Cheshire cat grin or grin of ‘the cat that ate the canary’. There have been several instances published on Filner’s ego and tendency to ignore other people rights, lawful process, interrupt and talk over people. He is also so attached to power, and covets power so much that he can’t let go/resign. He can’t let go even if it might be better for him in the long run. The longer he holds on, the more issues are uncovered and the hard it will be to ‘blow over’.

[livinincali]

[quote=CA renter]
Why did all these women wait until now to come out of the woodwork? The timing of this is very suspicious, IMHO.
[/quote]

Why is the timing so suspicious. These type of incidents always work like this. Somebody gets caught doing something. The magnifying glass comes out and people that were in fear of retaliation have an opportunity to come forward knowing that with everything in the spotlight the retaliation can’t occur.

Everybody knew that Filner would eventually get himself in trouble. Maybe not for sexual harassment but for something. He was a bad choice but if you worked or received benefits from the public sector he was the only choice.

[blake]

[quote]
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“It’s an awkward situation, but we have a lot invested in him,” said Lemmon, one of the few labor leaders who agreed to speak about the maelstrom confronting Filner
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Labor continues to back Filner

[all]

DeMaio lied about easily verifiable things and refused to retract when confronted. And that happened several times. He looked like a man with a big ax(e) to grind. I might be a moron, but I don’t like to be treated as such.

[paramount]

I heard filner had issues with credit card use as well.

[paulflorez]

Filner should resign. Even if he didn’t do any of the things people accused him of doing, he didn’t handle his response well. When you stand up to established power brokers in the city, you’re going to make enemies and they will do things to hurt you or simply give you enough rope to hurt yourself. Once he admitted acting inappropriately, he lost my support.

Had I known Filner had such horrible boundaries, I still would not have voted for DeMaio, I would have simply written in Fletcher, whom I voted for in the primary. I was extremely disappointed when DeMaio used Fletcher’s pro-LGBT voting record to make the case as to why the SD GOP should not back Fletcher. DeMaio lost any chance at my support when he sold his soul to Charles LiMandri by agreeing to shut up on social issues. That screams of politically corrupt behavior and selling out your constituents. DeMaio could have taken a completely different, groundbreaking approach and won the GOP nomination by focusing on his fiscal victories while making the case for LGBT equality as a conservative issue. Instead he sold out many of his constituents because he desperately wanted the SD Republican nomination.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=paramount]I heard filner had issues with credit card use as well.[/quote]

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/aug/12/filner-credit-cards-westgate-nutribullet-mexico/

I saw a link in the above article about a $511 charge incurred in Spring 2013 on Feelner’s City credit card for 5-6 visits to the Westgate Hotel (across the st from City Hall) where his former? bodyguards are now telling the press he “met women.” Uhh, folks, the Westgate’s daily rates start at $194 night.

http://www.westgatehotel.com/rooms-suites/deluxe-rooms

These obviously weren’t “room charges.” These charges were very likely at the coffee shop or lounge, where HUNDREDS of local court, city and county employees go during lunch and after work and many “power meetings” of all stripes are routinely held. Feelner could have taken female community activists, developers or other female local elected officials there for lunch, a 10:00 am pastry and coffee or happy hour for all we know :=0

I downloaded the link with the e-mails back and forth about those bills. Each elected official (local and state) is allowed a certain amount of personal expense per month to run their office as they see fit. If that is a latte machine for their staff, so be it.

For a high-ranking elected or appointed officer of a large CA city, county or the state has a typical monthly vehicle allowance is $400-$700 and a typical office-expense allowance of $700-1500.

Why Feelner’s office did not submit receipts for these charges is unclear, but it could be because no one is doing the work because the mayor’s office is in such “turmoil.”

Feelner is a 20-yr veteran of Congress, for G@d’s sake. He KNOWS he is supposed to submit receipts for his expenses.

Goldsmith stated on the Roger Hedgecock show at 11:30 today

http://www.utsandiego.com/tv/sponsored-segments/

that his office had a proposal before the Council for its regular meeting of August 28 to ask a Superior Court judge for an “emergency injunction” or something of that nature which would, in effect, strip Feelner of his mayoral duties due to him not providing receipts for his official expenditures on the City credit card. I just don’t see this maneuver being successful if the receipts they are asking for are in the possession of Feelner’s counsel or filed with the court in response, ESPECially if Feelner’s employee(s) who were supposed to do this work have used this debacle as an “opportunity” to go out on “stress leave.” That is SOP among employees working for an elected official.

As usual, Allred took the oppty on Roger’s show this morning to grandstand and joke that she has heard from more women (but they refused to come forward) but admits no court has decided anything yet and she is only representing ONE client (a City employee) in a lawsuit against the City.

Boxer and now Feinstein? now appear to be grandstanding for Filner’s resignation and Boxer has undoubtedly spent hundreds of hours with Filner over the years and knows him WELL. She has decided to take this stand … not on any proven facts but because she is embarrassed for he CA Dem party of which she is a longtime member and doesn’t want any flies swarming around HER starched cuffs. Her stance is all about HER credibility and the DEMS ability to maintain their stronghold on the CA electorate in the future. Neither politician has any percipient knowledge whatsoever about the events Feelner is accused of and in fact neither of them reside or work in SD County.

Goldsmith is misguided. Instead of trying to find out what REALLY happened, he seems to be trying to find ANY REASON that might stick to the ceiling to get a judge to agree to strip the mayor of his duties.

Remember, that if Goldsmith is actually successful with this coup, this doesn’t mean Feelner won’t collect his municipal salary while he is stripped of his duties. It only means he will show up for work and his duties will have been assigned elsewhere. It doesn’t get him out of office.

Any Pigg residents of SD should ask themselves how they feel about paying Filner for doing nothing until the outcome of all the “investigations” is reached.

I wouldn’t put too much stock in the supposed “investigations” currently in progress by the County Sheriff’s Dept and the AG’s office that Allred brought up on the Hedgecock show. They have both (the AG moreso) investigated the h@ll out of a LOT of prominent San Diegans over the decades without anything ever coming from it. They are the (supposedly “impartial”) parties SD local gubments always call on when they want to order a “witch hunt.” H@ll, even HEDGECOCK was at one time under the microscope by all the same players! And he likely still uses the same shirt laundry today!

It’s very possible that Filner left “rehab” early because his counsel advised him to do so. In staying, it might appear to the public that he thinks he is guilty of all the charges currently being thrown at him.

It’s all just a big y-a-a-a-aw-w-w-wn … this too, shall pass.

[paramount]

Maybe it’s a vast right-wing conspiracy doing all this damage to filner?

Oh I forgot, there is no right-wing in San Diego.

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