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September 17, 2008 at 10:31 PM #13867September 18, 2008 at 12:32 AM #271910urbanrealtorParticipant
While the current list of candidates clearly does not seem qualified to the author, there is a problem with what he is saying.
The problem is the constitution. That may seem ironic considering the thrust of his argument but this irony does not make it less true.
The constitution has specific qualifications laid out for becoming president. The only one we control is the electors’ choice as a reflection of the popular vote. The constitution does not make mention of the need to be liked. The constitution has no ego. It does not care if you love it or if you have some constitutionally-oriented concept of patriotism. The constitution lays out the rules and lays out the mechanisms for interpreting those rules and for changing them. Legitimacy is the domain of the Supreme Court. Since the only qualification we control is popular approval, withholding our vote does not give us greater control. The constitution already has a category for this. Not acting simply makes us non-actors.
I doubt this will change the complaints of the author. The only difference it will make is that whatever complaints he has about the new administration will sound more like the punchline to a joke after January. This short-sighted thinking leads to unintended consequences (eg: 2000). Irrational acting only leads to unwanted results.
September 18, 2008 at 12:32 AM #272149urbanrealtorParticipantWhile the current list of candidates clearly does not seem qualified to the author, there is a problem with what he is saying.
The problem is the constitution. That may seem ironic considering the thrust of his argument but this irony does not make it less true.
The constitution has specific qualifications laid out for becoming president. The only one we control is the electors’ choice as a reflection of the popular vote. The constitution does not make mention of the need to be liked. The constitution has no ego. It does not care if you love it or if you have some constitutionally-oriented concept of patriotism. The constitution lays out the rules and lays out the mechanisms for interpreting those rules and for changing them. Legitimacy is the domain of the Supreme Court. Since the only qualification we control is popular approval, withholding our vote does not give us greater control. The constitution already has a category for this. Not acting simply makes us non-actors.
I doubt this will change the complaints of the author. The only difference it will make is that whatever complaints he has about the new administration will sound more like the punchline to a joke after January. This short-sighted thinking leads to unintended consequences (eg: 2000). Irrational acting only leads to unwanted results.
September 18, 2008 at 12:32 AM #272157urbanrealtorParticipantWhile the current list of candidates clearly does not seem qualified to the author, there is a problem with what he is saying.
The problem is the constitution. That may seem ironic considering the thrust of his argument but this irony does not make it less true.
The constitution has specific qualifications laid out for becoming president. The only one we control is the electors’ choice as a reflection of the popular vote. The constitution does not make mention of the need to be liked. The constitution has no ego. It does not care if you love it or if you have some constitutionally-oriented concept of patriotism. The constitution lays out the rules and lays out the mechanisms for interpreting those rules and for changing them. Legitimacy is the domain of the Supreme Court. Since the only qualification we control is popular approval, withholding our vote does not give us greater control. The constitution already has a category for this. Not acting simply makes us non-actors.
I doubt this will change the complaints of the author. The only difference it will make is that whatever complaints he has about the new administration will sound more like the punchline to a joke after January. This short-sighted thinking leads to unintended consequences (eg: 2000). Irrational acting only leads to unwanted results.
September 18, 2008 at 12:32 AM #272198urbanrealtorParticipantWhile the current list of candidates clearly does not seem qualified to the author, there is a problem with what he is saying.
The problem is the constitution. That may seem ironic considering the thrust of his argument but this irony does not make it less true.
The constitution has specific qualifications laid out for becoming president. The only one we control is the electors’ choice as a reflection of the popular vote. The constitution does not make mention of the need to be liked. The constitution has no ego. It does not care if you love it or if you have some constitutionally-oriented concept of patriotism. The constitution lays out the rules and lays out the mechanisms for interpreting those rules and for changing them. Legitimacy is the domain of the Supreme Court. Since the only qualification we control is popular approval, withholding our vote does not give us greater control. The constitution already has a category for this. Not acting simply makes us non-actors.
I doubt this will change the complaints of the author. The only difference it will make is that whatever complaints he has about the new administration will sound more like the punchline to a joke after January. This short-sighted thinking leads to unintended consequences (eg: 2000). Irrational acting only leads to unwanted results.
September 18, 2008 at 12:32 AM #272222urbanrealtorParticipantWhile the current list of candidates clearly does not seem qualified to the author, there is a problem with what he is saying.
The problem is the constitution. That may seem ironic considering the thrust of his argument but this irony does not make it less true.
The constitution has specific qualifications laid out for becoming president. The only one we control is the electors’ choice as a reflection of the popular vote. The constitution does not make mention of the need to be liked. The constitution has no ego. It does not care if you love it or if you have some constitutionally-oriented concept of patriotism. The constitution lays out the rules and lays out the mechanisms for interpreting those rules and for changing them. Legitimacy is the domain of the Supreme Court. Since the only qualification we control is popular approval, withholding our vote does not give us greater control. The constitution already has a category for this. Not acting simply makes us non-actors.
I doubt this will change the complaints of the author. The only difference it will make is that whatever complaints he has about the new administration will sound more like the punchline to a joke after January. This short-sighted thinking leads to unintended consequences (eg: 2000). Irrational acting only leads to unwanted results.
September 18, 2008 at 2:39 PM #272440poorgradstudentParticipantNot voting and doing nothing is a great way to support the status quo.
There are tons of third-party candidates, many of whom are on the ballot in most states. If someone doesn’t like either of the major party candidates, it sends a much stronger message to vote 3rd party rather than not vote.
On top of that, in California and San Diego there are always a lot of dumb propositions on the ballot to vote no to. (Can we do away with the proposition system yet, or at least reform it?). There’s always at least one that is close to a 50-50 split, so even if your vote doesn’t seem to count on the Presidential election, there are other issues it does matter.
September 18, 2008 at 2:39 PM #272488poorgradstudentParticipantNot voting and doing nothing is a great way to support the status quo.
There are tons of third-party candidates, many of whom are on the ballot in most states. If someone doesn’t like either of the major party candidates, it sends a much stronger message to vote 3rd party rather than not vote.
On top of that, in California and San Diego there are always a lot of dumb propositions on the ballot to vote no to. (Can we do away with the proposition system yet, or at least reform it?). There’s always at least one that is close to a 50-50 split, so even if your vote doesn’t seem to count on the Presidential election, there are other issues it does matter.
September 18, 2008 at 2:39 PM #272512poorgradstudentParticipantNot voting and doing nothing is a great way to support the status quo.
There are tons of third-party candidates, many of whom are on the ballot in most states. If someone doesn’t like either of the major party candidates, it sends a much stronger message to vote 3rd party rather than not vote.
On top of that, in California and San Diego there are always a lot of dumb propositions on the ballot to vote no to. (Can we do away with the proposition system yet, or at least reform it?). There’s always at least one that is close to a 50-50 split, so even if your vote doesn’t seem to count on the Presidential election, there are other issues it does matter.
September 18, 2008 at 2:39 PM #272447poorgradstudentParticipantNot voting and doing nothing is a great way to support the status quo.
There are tons of third-party candidates, many of whom are on the ballot in most states. If someone doesn’t like either of the major party candidates, it sends a much stronger message to vote 3rd party rather than not vote.
On top of that, in California and San Diego there are always a lot of dumb propositions on the ballot to vote no to. (Can we do away with the proposition system yet, or at least reform it?). There’s always at least one that is close to a 50-50 split, so even if your vote doesn’t seem to count on the Presidential election, there are other issues it does matter.
September 18, 2008 at 2:39 PM #272199poorgradstudentParticipantNot voting and doing nothing is a great way to support the status quo.
There are tons of third-party candidates, many of whom are on the ballot in most states. If someone doesn’t like either of the major party candidates, it sends a much stronger message to vote 3rd party rather than not vote.
On top of that, in California and San Diego there are always a lot of dumb propositions on the ballot to vote no to. (Can we do away with the proposition system yet, or at least reform it?). There’s always at least one that is close to a 50-50 split, so even if your vote doesn’t seem to count on the Presidential election, there are other issues it does matter.
September 18, 2008 at 4:38 PM #272562NotCrankyParticipantIf your conscience tells you that abstaining from voting is patriotic than I agree. “Patriotism” is a concept that is slippery to define, of questionable value and easily subject to corruption and exploitation. What better place is there than your conscience to decide on such matters?
September 18, 2008 at 4:38 PM #272538NotCrankyParticipantIf your conscience tells you that abstaining from voting is patriotic than I agree. “Patriotism” is a concept that is slippery to define, of questionable value and easily subject to corruption and exploitation. What better place is there than your conscience to decide on such matters?
September 18, 2008 at 4:38 PM #272249NotCrankyParticipantIf your conscience tells you that abstaining from voting is patriotic than I agree. “Patriotism” is a concept that is slippery to define, of questionable value and easily subject to corruption and exploitation. What better place is there than your conscience to decide on such matters?
September 18, 2008 at 4:38 PM #272490NotCrankyParticipantIf your conscience tells you that abstaining from voting is patriotic than I agree. “Patriotism” is a concept that is slippery to define, of questionable value and easily subject to corruption and exploitation. What better place is there than your conscience to decide on such matters?
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