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March 2, 2009 at 11:04 AM #358990March 2, 2009 at 11:10 AM #358415partypupParticipant
[quote=Aecetia]Pup:
I am glad you still have your job. I like your insight. If you move to a remote place and it is really off the beaten path, will you be able to communicate with us? I think many of us like the house in the mountains idea, but what about good medical care? I for one do not want to hunt small animals for food. I guess I will check out the shelf life on protein powder…[/quote]Aecetia: do you have a ham radio? I just got one, and I think it will be a very handy thing to have to keep in touch if there are ever any grid problems. As for health care…that has been a concern of mine for the past couple of years. I have been advising friends and family to have any critical health care needs (surgeries, out patient procedures, dental work, etc) taken care of now while the medical and insurance infrastructure is still intact. I have been working out more, too, and trying to focus on building up my health and stamina for the long term. I am preparing for a world without safety nets. I think it is imperative to “get strong to go long”.
March 2, 2009 at 11:10 AM #358716partypupParticipant[quote=Aecetia]Pup:
I am glad you still have your job. I like your insight. If you move to a remote place and it is really off the beaten path, will you be able to communicate with us? I think many of us like the house in the mountains idea, but what about good medical care? I for one do not want to hunt small animals for food. I guess I will check out the shelf life on protein powder…[/quote]Aecetia: do you have a ham radio? I just got one, and I think it will be a very handy thing to have to keep in touch if there are ever any grid problems. As for health care…that has been a concern of mine for the past couple of years. I have been advising friends and family to have any critical health care needs (surgeries, out patient procedures, dental work, etc) taken care of now while the medical and insurance infrastructure is still intact. I have been working out more, too, and trying to focus on building up my health and stamina for the long term. I am preparing for a world without safety nets. I think it is imperative to “get strong to go long”.
March 2, 2009 at 11:10 AM #358857partypupParticipant[quote=Aecetia]Pup:
I am glad you still have your job. I like your insight. If you move to a remote place and it is really off the beaten path, will you be able to communicate with us? I think many of us like the house in the mountains idea, but what about good medical care? I for one do not want to hunt small animals for food. I guess I will check out the shelf life on protein powder…[/quote]Aecetia: do you have a ham radio? I just got one, and I think it will be a very handy thing to have to keep in touch if there are ever any grid problems. As for health care…that has been a concern of mine for the past couple of years. I have been advising friends and family to have any critical health care needs (surgeries, out patient procedures, dental work, etc) taken care of now while the medical and insurance infrastructure is still intact. I have been working out more, too, and trying to focus on building up my health and stamina for the long term. I am preparing for a world without safety nets. I think it is imperative to “get strong to go long”.
March 2, 2009 at 11:10 AM #358892partypupParticipant[quote=Aecetia]Pup:
I am glad you still have your job. I like your insight. If you move to a remote place and it is really off the beaten path, will you be able to communicate with us? I think many of us like the house in the mountains idea, but what about good medical care? I for one do not want to hunt small animals for food. I guess I will check out the shelf life on protein powder…[/quote]Aecetia: do you have a ham radio? I just got one, and I think it will be a very handy thing to have to keep in touch if there are ever any grid problems. As for health care…that has been a concern of mine for the past couple of years. I have been advising friends and family to have any critical health care needs (surgeries, out patient procedures, dental work, etc) taken care of now while the medical and insurance infrastructure is still intact. I have been working out more, too, and trying to focus on building up my health and stamina for the long term. I am preparing for a world without safety nets. I think it is imperative to “get strong to go long”.
March 2, 2009 at 11:10 AM #358995partypupParticipant[quote=Aecetia]Pup:
I am glad you still have your job. I like your insight. If you move to a remote place and it is really off the beaten path, will you be able to communicate with us? I think many of us like the house in the mountains idea, but what about good medical care? I for one do not want to hunt small animals for food. I guess I will check out the shelf life on protein powder…[/quote]Aecetia: do you have a ham radio? I just got one, and I think it will be a very handy thing to have to keep in touch if there are ever any grid problems. As for health care…that has been a concern of mine for the past couple of years. I have been advising friends and family to have any critical health care needs (surgeries, out patient procedures, dental work, etc) taken care of now while the medical and insurance infrastructure is still intact. I have been working out more, too, and trying to focus on building up my health and stamina for the long term. I am preparing for a world without safety nets. I think it is imperative to “get strong to go long”.
March 2, 2009 at 11:24 AM #358430partypupParticipant[quote=190pounds]Who else agrees it isn’t going to get as bad as partypup thinks?
partypup, I’ve read your threads and you are obviously pretty smart, but I sense you are overly paranoid.[/quote]
190pounds: you may be right. I think you’re wrong. We will see.
However, you might be interested in knowing that both Paul Volcker and George Soros – who initially thought that “doomers” like me were being paranoid – have now come to see the crisis for what it is: worse than the Great Depression.
“The global economy may be deteriorating even faster than it did during the Great Depression, Paul Volcker, a top adviser to President Barack Obama, said on Friday.”
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29304047
“Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union.”
Keep in mind: when I started posting, the Dow was about 4,000 points higher (at least), and 30,000-50,000 people were losing their jobs nationwide each month. The Dow has now plunged to its 1997 levels, and we are seeing 600,000+ people being thrown out of jobs each month. The employment crash is clearly gaining momentum, as it begins to feed upon itself.
Let’s examine the definition of “paranoid” for a moment thought, shall we?
para·noid (par′ə no̵id′)
adjectiveof or like paranoia
characterized by extreme suspiciousness, grandiose delusions, or delusions of persecution
Now, what is more “delusional”: (a) to believe that a country and a world where capital markets are plunging, employment is hemorrhaging, and trillions of dollars of debt are being heaped upon the backs of taxpayers on an almost monthly basis can continue without profound and systemic disruption, or (b) to accept and prepare for the likelihood that systemic collapse is growing more likely every day?
You tell me. And send a note to Volcker and Soros 😉
March 2, 2009 at 11:24 AM #358731partypupParticipant[quote=190pounds]Who else agrees it isn’t going to get as bad as partypup thinks?
partypup, I’ve read your threads and you are obviously pretty smart, but I sense you are overly paranoid.[/quote]
190pounds: you may be right. I think you’re wrong. We will see.
However, you might be interested in knowing that both Paul Volcker and George Soros – who initially thought that “doomers” like me were being paranoid – have now come to see the crisis for what it is: worse than the Great Depression.
“The global economy may be deteriorating even faster than it did during the Great Depression, Paul Volcker, a top adviser to President Barack Obama, said on Friday.”
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29304047
“Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union.”
Keep in mind: when I started posting, the Dow was about 4,000 points higher (at least), and 30,000-50,000 people were losing their jobs nationwide each month. The Dow has now plunged to its 1997 levels, and we are seeing 600,000+ people being thrown out of jobs each month. The employment crash is clearly gaining momentum, as it begins to feed upon itself.
Let’s examine the definition of “paranoid” for a moment thought, shall we?
para·noid (par′ə no̵id′)
adjectiveof or like paranoia
characterized by extreme suspiciousness, grandiose delusions, or delusions of persecution
Now, what is more “delusional”: (a) to believe that a country and a world where capital markets are plunging, employment is hemorrhaging, and trillions of dollars of debt are being heaped upon the backs of taxpayers on an almost monthly basis can continue without profound and systemic disruption, or (b) to accept and prepare for the likelihood that systemic collapse is growing more likely every day?
You tell me. And send a note to Volcker and Soros 😉
March 2, 2009 at 11:24 AM #358872partypupParticipant[quote=190pounds]Who else agrees it isn’t going to get as bad as partypup thinks?
partypup, I’ve read your threads and you are obviously pretty smart, but I sense you are overly paranoid.[/quote]
190pounds: you may be right. I think you’re wrong. We will see.
However, you might be interested in knowing that both Paul Volcker and George Soros – who initially thought that “doomers” like me were being paranoid – have now come to see the crisis for what it is: worse than the Great Depression.
“The global economy may be deteriorating even faster than it did during the Great Depression, Paul Volcker, a top adviser to President Barack Obama, said on Friday.”
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29304047
“Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union.”
Keep in mind: when I started posting, the Dow was about 4,000 points higher (at least), and 30,000-50,000 people were losing their jobs nationwide each month. The Dow has now plunged to its 1997 levels, and we are seeing 600,000+ people being thrown out of jobs each month. The employment crash is clearly gaining momentum, as it begins to feed upon itself.
Let’s examine the definition of “paranoid” for a moment thought, shall we?
para·noid (par′ə no̵id′)
adjectiveof or like paranoia
characterized by extreme suspiciousness, grandiose delusions, or delusions of persecution
Now, what is more “delusional”: (a) to believe that a country and a world where capital markets are plunging, employment is hemorrhaging, and trillions of dollars of debt are being heaped upon the backs of taxpayers on an almost monthly basis can continue without profound and systemic disruption, or (b) to accept and prepare for the likelihood that systemic collapse is growing more likely every day?
You tell me. And send a note to Volcker and Soros 😉
March 2, 2009 at 11:24 AM #358907partypupParticipant[quote=190pounds]Who else agrees it isn’t going to get as bad as partypup thinks?
partypup, I’ve read your threads and you are obviously pretty smart, but I sense you are overly paranoid.[/quote]
190pounds: you may be right. I think you’re wrong. We will see.
However, you might be interested in knowing that both Paul Volcker and George Soros – who initially thought that “doomers” like me were being paranoid – have now come to see the crisis for what it is: worse than the Great Depression.
“The global economy may be deteriorating even faster than it did during the Great Depression, Paul Volcker, a top adviser to President Barack Obama, said on Friday.”
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29304047
“Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union.”
Keep in mind: when I started posting, the Dow was about 4,000 points higher (at least), and 30,000-50,000 people were losing their jobs nationwide each month. The Dow has now plunged to its 1997 levels, and we are seeing 600,000+ people being thrown out of jobs each month. The employment crash is clearly gaining momentum, as it begins to feed upon itself.
Let’s examine the definition of “paranoid” for a moment thought, shall we?
para·noid (par′ə no̵id′)
adjectiveof or like paranoia
characterized by extreme suspiciousness, grandiose delusions, or delusions of persecution
Now, what is more “delusional”: (a) to believe that a country and a world where capital markets are plunging, employment is hemorrhaging, and trillions of dollars of debt are being heaped upon the backs of taxpayers on an almost monthly basis can continue without profound and systemic disruption, or (b) to accept and prepare for the likelihood that systemic collapse is growing more likely every day?
You tell me. And send a note to Volcker and Soros 😉
March 2, 2009 at 11:24 AM #359009partypupParticipant[quote=190pounds]Who else agrees it isn’t going to get as bad as partypup thinks?
partypup, I’ve read your threads and you are obviously pretty smart, but I sense you are overly paranoid.[/quote]
190pounds: you may be right. I think you’re wrong. We will see.
However, you might be interested in knowing that both Paul Volcker and George Soros – who initially thought that “doomers” like me were being paranoid – have now come to see the crisis for what it is: worse than the Great Depression.
“The global economy may be deteriorating even faster than it did during the Great Depression, Paul Volcker, a top adviser to President Barack Obama, said on Friday.”
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29304047
“Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union.”
Keep in mind: when I started posting, the Dow was about 4,000 points higher (at least), and 30,000-50,000 people were losing their jobs nationwide each month. The Dow has now plunged to its 1997 levels, and we are seeing 600,000+ people being thrown out of jobs each month. The employment crash is clearly gaining momentum, as it begins to feed upon itself.
Let’s examine the definition of “paranoid” for a moment thought, shall we?
para·noid (par′ə no̵id′)
adjectiveof or like paranoia
characterized by extreme suspiciousness, grandiose delusions, or delusions of persecution
Now, what is more “delusional”: (a) to believe that a country and a world where capital markets are plunging, employment is hemorrhaging, and trillions of dollars of debt are being heaped upon the backs of taxpayers on an almost monthly basis can continue without profound and systemic disruption, or (b) to accept and prepare for the likelihood that systemic collapse is growing more likely every day?
You tell me. And send a note to Volcker and Soros 😉
March 2, 2009 at 11:25 AM #358445AecetiaParticipantI do not have a ham radio, but I have some friends in the emergency services business that do. I think I will talk to them about that. If the fairness doctrine quashes talk radio and most do not migrate to satellite radio, then we will need a network for freedom of speech. I agree about getting strong both mentally and physically. However, I wonder if a medium layer of fat might be a good idea to survive. After all, that is how humans survived during the ice age. Getting medical taken care of now is a good idea, because under Obama there will be long lines. Maybe old fashioned docs will go back to bartering for service. I do not see your thinking as classical Freudian defense mechanisms, but I do see a lot of these ostriches evidencing a lot of denial and projection. I think genetically, people with some degree of anxiety live longer because they do not sleep so soundly they do not hear the sabre tooth cat coming for them. I liked the movie “Red Dawn”. Maybe that scenario is still not out of the question, but substitute Cubans with Chicoms. Now who is paranoid?
March 2, 2009 at 11:25 AM #358746AecetiaParticipantI do not have a ham radio, but I have some friends in the emergency services business that do. I think I will talk to them about that. If the fairness doctrine quashes talk radio and most do not migrate to satellite radio, then we will need a network for freedom of speech. I agree about getting strong both mentally and physically. However, I wonder if a medium layer of fat might be a good idea to survive. After all, that is how humans survived during the ice age. Getting medical taken care of now is a good idea, because under Obama there will be long lines. Maybe old fashioned docs will go back to bartering for service. I do not see your thinking as classical Freudian defense mechanisms, but I do see a lot of these ostriches evidencing a lot of denial and projection. I think genetically, people with some degree of anxiety live longer because they do not sleep so soundly they do not hear the sabre tooth cat coming for them. I liked the movie “Red Dawn”. Maybe that scenario is still not out of the question, but substitute Cubans with Chicoms. Now who is paranoid?
March 2, 2009 at 11:25 AM #358888AecetiaParticipantI do not have a ham radio, but I have some friends in the emergency services business that do. I think I will talk to them about that. If the fairness doctrine quashes talk radio and most do not migrate to satellite radio, then we will need a network for freedom of speech. I agree about getting strong both mentally and physically. However, I wonder if a medium layer of fat might be a good idea to survive. After all, that is how humans survived during the ice age. Getting medical taken care of now is a good idea, because under Obama there will be long lines. Maybe old fashioned docs will go back to bartering for service. I do not see your thinking as classical Freudian defense mechanisms, but I do see a lot of these ostriches evidencing a lot of denial and projection. I think genetically, people with some degree of anxiety live longer because they do not sleep so soundly they do not hear the sabre tooth cat coming for them. I liked the movie “Red Dawn”. Maybe that scenario is still not out of the question, but substitute Cubans with Chicoms. Now who is paranoid?
March 2, 2009 at 11:25 AM #358922AecetiaParticipantI do not have a ham radio, but I have some friends in the emergency services business that do. I think I will talk to them about that. If the fairness doctrine quashes talk radio and most do not migrate to satellite radio, then we will need a network for freedom of speech. I agree about getting strong both mentally and physically. However, I wonder if a medium layer of fat might be a good idea to survive. After all, that is how humans survived during the ice age. Getting medical taken care of now is a good idea, because under Obama there will be long lines. Maybe old fashioned docs will go back to bartering for service. I do not see your thinking as classical Freudian defense mechanisms, but I do see a lot of these ostriches evidencing a lot of denial and projection. I think genetically, people with some degree of anxiety live longer because they do not sleep so soundly they do not hear the sabre tooth cat coming for them. I liked the movie “Red Dawn”. Maybe that scenario is still not out of the question, but substitute Cubans with Chicoms. Now who is paranoid?
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