OT:Law Firm Associates Getting SLAUGHTERED…

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Great post!

Very interesting to read.

Thanks!

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[quote=Borat]Yeah, I just did the Google search you referred to – and I have to say, Borat: the fact that machine shops exist in San Diego does not mean that they are hiring. Is that how you usually perform a job search? 😉 I asked you to find postings in the local newspapers as proof that jobs at these shops are actually available. Anyone can do a Google search and come up with names of businesses.

Who the hell looks for a job in the NEWSPAPER? What year are you living in man? The internet is where it’s at baby.

So getting him re-trained to work at that machine shop in San Diego at $12/hour isn’t going to make a dent in his monthly nut.

Again, what year are you living in? Check out some average machine shop salaries. It’s more like $20/25 an hour. Yep that ain’t $100 hour for slinging paper around but it’s honest work.

My bottom line is that those with the ability to get some real skills and a good attitude are going to survive this. Those that expect life to just hand them things and who haven’t come up with a Plan B are gonna have a hard time.

I still haven’t heard your suggestions on how to fix any of this. I’m just saying that we’ve got to start making things in this country again. Start small and work our way up.

As for myself, you can bet that I’ve got a Plan B and a Plan C and maybe even a Plan D. And none of them involve holing up in the wilderness with a bunch of dried food and kruggerands either. Or running around peeing my pants screaming about economic armageddon.[/quote]

Oh, excuse me for using the word “newspaper”. I saw two lying on my coffee table this morning, not realizing that they were remnants of the Jurassic Age.

So get your fingers on the magical keyboard, Borat, and tell me where are these bountiful machine shop jobs on the internet? You keep telling me that the jobs are out there, but you haven’t identified one. 600,000 people are losing their jobs every month, and only a fraction of that number of new jobs are being created, but you’re so certain that everyone who falsl off the horse can climb back on another one. LOL. Seriously, what world have you been hanging out in for he past 6 months?

And I never said that people with “real skills” aren’t going to be able to survive this. But not enough people have “real skills”. I feel like we’re having two completely different conversations here. You tell me that jobs are available for $25/hr, and I’m telling you that lawyers who have been enmeshed in this system for years can’t pay their bills — including their mortgages — on that kind of salary. Connect the dots, Borat. The inability to pay your mortgage means foreclosure, which means the housing market spiral accelerates. Do you seriously not get that? It’s not a difficult concept to grasp. Whether these people ever get jobs again is not the question; they will need jobs with substantially similar salaries to avert a further deterioration in the housing market. That was MY point. But you are so fixated on your distaste for lawyers that you consistently miss the point I have been trying to make.

I’m not arguing that our country doesn’t need to reinvigorate its manufacturing sector. Of course that needs to happen. I posted this article to illustrate the fallout that is occurring and that will continue to occur because there simply aren’t enough jobs of ANY level to absorb the population. And unemployed people cause problems for society on many levels. Again, do you really not understand that there are not enough $12 or $20/hour jobs to go around, even if everyone in the country was willing to take them?

And where in my post did I propose to offer any suggestions for how to “fix this”? Where does that comment even come from? Are Piggs now only allowed to post articles if they have policy proposals to address the problems set forth in the articles we post? LOL.

[Incidentally, I have given my “policy proposals” on the broader economy in multiple posts. So if you know enough about me to know that I am fond of krugerrands and healthy food stocks, then you should also be aware of what my proposals are. Check out the “Obama inspires” thread].

Out of curiosity what are your Plans B, C and D you are so proud of? If they don’t involve a way to grow or store your own food, then you’re going to be roadkill. In which case, I suspect there will be a nice, long stream of urine running down your legs 😉 I have a hunch your Plans involve cash, CDs, bonds, dollars, hope, prayer and a lot of job fairs. We’ll see where those take you.

Good luck with Armageddon!

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[quote=Borat]Yeah, I just did the Google search you referred to – and I have to say, Borat: the fact that machine shops exist in San Diego does not mean that they are hiring. Is that how you usually perform a job search? 😉 I asked you to find postings in the local newspapers as proof that jobs at these shops are actually available. Anyone can do a Google search and come up with names of businesses.

Who the hell looks for a job in the NEWSPAPER? What year are you living in man? The internet is where it’s at baby.

So getting him re-trained to work at that machine shop in San Diego at $12/hour isn’t going to make a dent in his monthly nut.

Again, what year are you living in? Check out some average machine shop salaries. It’s more like $20/25 an hour. Yep that ain’t $100 hour for slinging paper around but it’s honest work.

My bottom line is that those with the ability to get some real skills and a good attitude are going to survive this. Those that expect life to just hand them things and who haven’t come up with a Plan B are gonna have a hard time.

I still haven’t heard your suggestions on how to fix any of this. I’m just saying that we’ve got to start making things in this country again. Start small and work our way up.

As for myself, you can bet that I’ve got a Plan B and a Plan C and maybe even a Plan D. And none of them involve holing up in the wilderness with a bunch of dried food and kruggerands either. Or running around peeing my pants screaming about economic armageddon.[/quote]

Oh, excuse me for using the word “newspaper”. I saw two lying on my coffee table this morning, not realizing that they were remnants of the Jurassic Age.

So get your fingers on the magical keyboard, Borat, and tell me where are these bountiful machine shop jobs on the internet? You keep telling me that the jobs are out there, but you haven’t identified one. 600,000 people are losing their jobs every month, and only a fraction of that number of new jobs are being created, but you’re so certain that everyone who falsl off the horse can climb back on another one. LOL. Seriously, what world have you been hanging out in for he past 6 months?

And I never said that people with “real skills” aren’t going to be able to survive this. But not enough people have “real skills”. I feel like we’re having two completely different conversations here. You tell me that jobs are available for $25/hr, and I’m telling you that lawyers who have been enmeshed in this system for years can’t pay their bills — including their mortgages — on that kind of salary. Connect the dots, Borat. The inability to pay your mortgage means foreclosure, which means the housing market spiral accelerates. Do you seriously not get that? It’s not a difficult concept to grasp. Whether these people ever get jobs again is not the question; they will need jobs with substantially similar salaries to avert a further deterioration in the housing market. That was MY point. But you are so fixated on your distaste for lawyers that you consistently miss the point I have been trying to make.

I’m not arguing that our country doesn’t need to reinvigorate its manufacturing sector. Of course that needs to happen. I posted this article to illustrate the fallout that is occurring and that will continue to occur because there simply aren’t enough jobs of ANY level to absorb the population. And unemployed people cause problems for society on many levels. Again, do you really not understand that there are not enough $12 or $20/hour jobs to go around, even if everyone in the country was willing to take them?

And where in my post did I propose to offer any suggestions for how to “fix this”? Where does that comment even come from? Are Piggs now only allowed to post articles if they have policy proposals to address the problems set forth in the articles we post? LOL.

[Incidentally, I have given my “policy proposals” on the broader economy in multiple posts. So if you know enough about me to know that I am fond of krugerrands and healthy food stocks, then you should also be aware of what my proposals are. Check out the “Obama inspires” thread].

Out of curiosity what are your Plans B, C and D you are so proud of? If they don’t involve a way to grow or store your own food, then you’re going to be roadkill. In which case, I suspect there will be a nice, long stream of urine running down your legs 😉 I have a hunch your Plans involve cash, CDs, bonds, dollars, hope, prayer and a lot of job fairs. We’ll see where those take you.

Good luck with Armageddon!

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[quote=Borat]Yeah, I just did the Google search you referred to – and I have to say, Borat: the fact that machine shops exist in San Diego does not mean that they are hiring. Is that how you usually perform a job search? 😉 I asked you to find postings in the local newspapers as proof that jobs at these shops are actually available. Anyone can do a Google search and come up with names of businesses.

Who the hell looks for a job in the NEWSPAPER? What year are you living in man? The internet is where it’s at baby.

So getting him re-trained to work at that machine shop in San Diego at $12/hour isn’t going to make a dent in his monthly nut.

Again, what year are you living in? Check out some average machine shop salaries. It’s more like $20/25 an hour. Yep that ain’t $100 hour for slinging paper around but it’s honest work.

My bottom line is that those with the ability to get some real skills and a good attitude are going to survive this. Those that expect life to just hand them things and who haven’t come up with a Plan B are gonna have a hard time.

I still haven’t heard your suggestions on how to fix any of this. I’m just saying that we’ve got to start making things in this country again. Start small and work our way up.

As for myself, you can bet that I’ve got a Plan B and a Plan C and maybe even a Plan D. And none of them involve holing up in the wilderness with a bunch of dried food and kruggerands either. Or running around peeing my pants screaming about economic armageddon.[/quote]

Oh, excuse me for using the word “newspaper”. I saw two lying on my coffee table this morning, not realizing that they were remnants of the Jurassic Age.

So get your fingers on the magical keyboard, Borat, and tell me where are these bountiful machine shop jobs on the internet? You keep telling me that the jobs are out there, but you haven’t identified one. 600,000 people are losing their jobs every month, and only a fraction of that number of new jobs are being created, but you’re so certain that everyone who falsl off the horse can climb back on another one. LOL. Seriously, what world have you been hanging out in for he past 6 months?

And I never said that people with “real skills” aren’t going to be able to survive this. But not enough people have “real skills”. I feel like we’re having two completely different conversations here. You tell me that jobs are available for $25/hr, and I’m telling you that lawyers who have been enmeshed in this system for years can’t pay their bills — including their mortgages — on that kind of salary. Connect the dots, Borat. The inability to pay your mortgage means foreclosure, which means the housing market spiral accelerates. Do you seriously not get that? It’s not a difficult concept to grasp. Whether these people ever get jobs again is not the question; they will need jobs with substantially similar salaries to avert a further deterioration in the housing market. That was MY point. But you are so fixated on your distaste for lawyers that you consistently miss the point I have been trying to make.

I’m not arguing that our country doesn’t need to reinvigorate its manufacturing sector. Of course that needs to happen. I posted this article to illustrate the fallout that is occurring and that will continue to occur because there simply aren’t enough jobs of ANY level to absorb the population. And unemployed people cause problems for society on many levels. Again, do you really not understand that there are not enough $12 or $20/hour jobs to go around, even if everyone in the country was willing to take them?

And where in my post did I propose to offer any suggestions for how to “fix this”? Where does that comment even come from? Are Piggs now only allowed to post articles if they have policy proposals to address the problems set forth in the articles we post? LOL.

[Incidentally, I have given my “policy proposals” on the broader economy in multiple posts. So if you know enough about me to know that I am fond of krugerrands and healthy food stocks, then you should also be aware of what my proposals are. Check out the “Obama inspires” thread].

Out of curiosity what are your Plans B, C and D you are so proud of? If they don’t involve a way to grow or store your own food, then you’re going to be roadkill. In which case, I suspect there will be a nice, long stream of urine running down your legs 😉 I have a hunch your Plans involve cash, CDs, bonds, dollars, hope, prayer and a lot of job fairs. We’ll see where those take you.

Good luck with Armageddon!

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[quote=Borat]Yeah, I just did the Google search you referred to – and I have to say, Borat: the fact that machine shops exist in San Diego does not mean that they are hiring. Is that how you usually perform a job search? 😉 I asked you to find postings in the local newspapers as proof that jobs at these shops are actually available. Anyone can do a Google search and come up with names of businesses.

Who the hell looks for a job in the NEWSPAPER? What year are you living in man? The internet is where it’s at baby.

So getting him re-trained to work at that machine shop in San Diego at $12/hour isn’t going to make a dent in his monthly nut.

Again, what year are you living in? Check out some average machine shop salaries. It’s more like $20/25 an hour. Yep that ain’t $100 hour for slinging paper around but it’s honest work.

My bottom line is that those with the ability to get some real skills and a good attitude are going to survive this. Those that expect life to just hand them things and who haven’t come up with a Plan B are gonna have a hard time.

I still haven’t heard your suggestions on how to fix any of this. I’m just saying that we’ve got to start making things in this country again. Start small and work our way up.

As for myself, you can bet that I’ve got a Plan B and a Plan C and maybe even a Plan D. And none of them involve holing up in the wilderness with a bunch of dried food and kruggerands either. Or running around peeing my pants screaming about economic armageddon.[/quote]

Oh, excuse me for using the word “newspaper”. I saw two lying on my coffee table this morning, not realizing that they were remnants of the Jurassic Age.

So get your fingers on the magical keyboard, Borat, and tell me where are these bountiful machine shop jobs on the internet? You keep telling me that the jobs are out there, but you haven’t identified one. 600,000 people are losing their jobs every month, and only a fraction of that number of new jobs are being created, but you’re so certain that everyone who falsl off the horse can climb back on another one. LOL. Seriously, what world have you been hanging out in for he past 6 months?

And I never said that people with “real skills” aren’t going to be able to survive this. But not enough people have “real skills”. I feel like we’re having two completely different conversations here. You tell me that jobs are available for $25/hr, and I’m telling you that lawyers who have been enmeshed in this system for years can’t pay their bills — including their mortgages — on that kind of salary. Connect the dots, Borat. The inability to pay your mortgage means foreclosure, which means the housing market spiral accelerates. Do you seriously not get that? It’s not a difficult concept to grasp. Whether these people ever get jobs again is not the question; they will need jobs with substantially similar salaries to avert a further deterioration in the housing market. That was MY point. But you are so fixated on your distaste for lawyers that you consistently miss the point I have been trying to make.

I’m not arguing that our country doesn’t need to reinvigorate its manufacturing sector. Of course that needs to happen. I posted this article to illustrate the fallout that is occurring and that will continue to occur because there simply aren’t enough jobs of ANY level to absorb the population. And unemployed people cause problems for society on many levels. Again, do you really not understand that there are not enough $12 or $20/hour jobs to go around, even if everyone in the country was willing to take them?

And where in my post did I propose to offer any suggestions for how to “fix this”? Where does that comment even come from? Are Piggs now only allowed to post articles if they have policy proposals to address the problems set forth in the articles we post? LOL.

[Incidentally, I have given my “policy proposals” on the broader economy in multiple posts. So if you know enough about me to know that I am fond of krugerrands and healthy food stocks, then you should also be aware of what my proposals are. Check out the “Obama inspires” thread].

Out of curiosity what are your Plans B, C and D you are so proud of? If they don’t involve a way to grow or store your own food, then you’re going to be roadkill. In which case, I suspect there will be a nice, long stream of urine running down your legs 😉 I have a hunch your Plans involve cash, CDs, bonds, dollars, hope, prayer and a lot of job fairs. We’ll see where those take you.

Good luck with Armageddon!

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[quote=Borat]Yeah, I just did the Google search you referred to – and I have to say, Borat: the fact that machine shops exist in San Diego does not mean that they are hiring. Is that how you usually perform a job search? 😉 I asked you to find postings in the local newspapers as proof that jobs at these shops are actually available. Anyone can do a Google search and come up with names of businesses.

Who the hell looks for a job in the NEWSPAPER? What year are you living in man? The internet is where it’s at baby.

So getting him re-trained to work at that machine shop in San Diego at $12/hour isn’t going to make a dent in his monthly nut.

Again, what year are you living in? Check out some average machine shop salaries. It’s more like $20/25 an hour. Yep that ain’t $100 hour for slinging paper around but it’s honest work.

My bottom line is that those with the ability to get some real skills and a good attitude are going to survive this. Those that expect life to just hand them things and who haven’t come up with a Plan B are gonna have a hard time.

I still haven’t heard your suggestions on how to fix any of this. I’m just saying that we’ve got to start making things in this country again. Start small and work our way up.

As for myself, you can bet that I’ve got a Plan B and a Plan C and maybe even a Plan D. And none of them involve holing up in the wilderness with a bunch of dried food and kruggerands either. Or running around peeing my pants screaming about economic armageddon.[/quote]

Oh, excuse me for using the word “newspaper”. I saw two lying on my coffee table this morning, not realizing that they were remnants of the Jurassic Age.

So get your fingers on the magical keyboard, Borat, and tell me where are these bountiful machine shop jobs on the internet? You keep telling me that the jobs are out there, but you haven’t identified one. 600,000 people are losing their jobs every month, and only a fraction of that number of new jobs are being created, but you’re so certain that everyone who falsl off the horse can climb back on another one. LOL. Seriously, what world have you been hanging out in for he past 6 months?

And I never said that people with “real skills” aren’t going to be able to survive this. But not enough people have “real skills”. I feel like we’re having two completely different conversations here. You tell me that jobs are available for $25/hr, and I’m telling you that lawyers who have been enmeshed in this system for years can’t pay their bills — including their mortgages — on that kind of salary. Connect the dots, Borat. The inability to pay your mortgage means foreclosure, which means the housing market spiral accelerates. Do you seriously not get that? It’s not a difficult concept to grasp. Whether these people ever get jobs again is not the question; they will need jobs with substantially similar salaries to avert a further deterioration in the housing market. That was MY point. But you are so fixated on your distaste for lawyers that you consistently miss the point I have been trying to make.

I’m not arguing that our country doesn’t need to reinvigorate its manufacturing sector. Of course that needs to happen. I posted this article to illustrate the fallout that is occurring and that will continue to occur because there simply aren’t enough jobs of ANY level to absorb the population. And unemployed people cause problems for society on many levels. Again, do you really not understand that there are not enough $12 or $20/hour jobs to go around, even if everyone in the country was willing to take them?

And where in my post did I propose to offer any suggestions for how to “fix this”? Where does that comment even come from? Are Piggs now only allowed to post articles if they have policy proposals to address the problems set forth in the articles we post? LOL.

[Incidentally, I have given my “policy proposals” on the broader economy in multiple posts. So if you know enough about me to know that I am fond of krugerrands and healthy food stocks, then you should also be aware of what my proposals are. Check out the “Obama inspires” thread].

Out of curiosity what are your Plans B, C and D you are so proud of? If they don’t involve a way to grow or store your own food, then you’re going to be roadkill. In which case, I suspect there will be a nice, long stream of urine running down your legs 😉 I have a hunch your Plans involve cash, CDs, bonds, dollars, hope, prayer and a lot of job fairs. We’ll see where those take you.

Good luck with Armageddon!

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[quote=arraya]BTW I have lost my job before and while it’s not fun it ain’t the end of the world either. As long as you have some $ in the bank and you’re willing to relocate and maybe retrain yourself that is. Oh and of course you must be willing to step down a rung on the ladder from time to time and I’ve done that too.

What if there are no jobs to be had and your money only has a fraction of the buying power? What if millions upon million become unemployed at the same time and any savings they might have becomes a fraction of what it was worth.
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Arraya, Borat has not even considered this possibility. The guy is living in an alternate reality. He thinks as long as a person has “real skills” they will be fine when the millions without “real skills” come pounding on his door. Completely laughable. I suppose his Plan B is to teleport to a planet where there is full employment.

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[quote=arraya]BTW I have lost my job before and while it’s not fun it ain’t the end of the world either. As long as you have some $ in the bank and you’re willing to relocate and maybe retrain yourself that is. Oh and of course you must be willing to step down a rung on the ladder from time to time and I’ve done that too.

What if there are no jobs to be had and your money only has a fraction of the buying power? What if millions upon million become unemployed at the same time and any savings they might have becomes a fraction of what it was worth.
[/quote]

Arraya, Borat has not even considered this possibility. The guy is living in an alternate reality. He thinks as long as a person has “real skills” they will be fine when the millions without “real skills” come pounding on his door. Completely laughable. I suppose his Plan B is to teleport to a planet where there is full employment.

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[quote=arraya]BTW I have lost my job before and while it’s not fun it ain’t the end of the world either. As long as you have some $ in the bank and you’re willing to relocate and maybe retrain yourself that is. Oh and of course you must be willing to step down a rung on the ladder from time to time and I’ve done that too.

What if there are no jobs to be had and your money only has a fraction of the buying power? What if millions upon million become unemployed at the same time and any savings they might have becomes a fraction of what it was worth.
[/quote]

Arraya, Borat has not even considered this possibility. The guy is living in an alternate reality. He thinks as long as a person has “real skills” they will be fine when the millions without “real skills” come pounding on his door. Completely laughable. I suppose his Plan B is to teleport to a planet where there is full employment.

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[quote=arraya]BTW I have lost my job before and while it’s not fun it ain’t the end of the world either. As long as you have some $ in the bank and you’re willing to relocate and maybe retrain yourself that is. Oh and of course you must be willing to step down a rung on the ladder from time to time and I’ve done that too.

What if there are no jobs to be had and your money only has a fraction of the buying power? What if millions upon million become unemployed at the same time and any savings they might have becomes a fraction of what it was worth.
[/quote]

Arraya, Borat has not even considered this possibility. The guy is living in an alternate reality. He thinks as long as a person has “real skills” they will be fine when the millions without “real skills” come pounding on his door. Completely laughable. I suppose his Plan B is to teleport to a planet where there is full employment.

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[quote=arraya]BTW I have lost my job before and while it’s not fun it ain’t the end of the world either. As long as you have some $ in the bank and you’re willing to relocate and maybe retrain yourself that is. Oh and of course you must be willing to step down a rung on the ladder from time to time and I’ve done that too.

What if there are no jobs to be had and your money only has a fraction of the buying power? What if millions upon million become unemployed at the same time and any savings they might have becomes a fraction of what it was worth.
[/quote]

Arraya, Borat has not even considered this possibility. The guy is living in an alternate reality. He thinks as long as a person has “real skills” they will be fine when the millions without “real skills” come pounding on his door. Completely laughable. I suppose his Plan B is to teleport to a planet where there is full employment.

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[quote=JohnAlt91941][quote=partypup]
I knew a tipping point had occurred in January when a friend of mine in Santa Maria applied for a part time job as a cashier at a Trader Joe’s in Santa Maria ($8/hour), and 1000 people showed up.
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I’m not saying things are good, but you do realize this was a brand new store? At a well known company that probably advertised the jobs. It’s not like 1000 people were there for one cashier’s job.

In 1979 I went to apply at a new Big Bear in El Cajon and there were hundreds of people waiting in line. A poor economy like now, but not the end of the world.

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Actually, many more showed up for the 3 or so other positions available, including manager.

But it is a fact: there were roughly 1000 applicants for one (1) cashier job, according to the assistant manager who spoke with my friend.

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[quote=JohnAlt91941][quote=partypup]
I knew a tipping point had occurred in January when a friend of mine in Santa Maria applied for a part time job as a cashier at a Trader Joe’s in Santa Maria ($8/hour), and 1000 people showed up.
[/quote]

I’m not saying things are good, but you do realize this was a brand new store? At a well known company that probably advertised the jobs. It’s not like 1000 people were there for one cashier’s job.

In 1979 I went to apply at a new Big Bear in El Cajon and there were hundreds of people waiting in line. A poor economy like now, but not the end of the world.

[/quote]
Actually, many more showed up for the 3 or so other positions available, including manager.

But it is a fact: there were roughly 1000 applicants for one (1) cashier job, according to the assistant manager who spoke with my friend.

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[quote=JohnAlt91941][quote=partypup]
I knew a tipping point had occurred in January when a friend of mine in Santa Maria applied for a part time job as a cashier at a Trader Joe’s in Santa Maria ($8/hour), and 1000 people showed up.
[/quote]

I’m not saying things are good, but you do realize this was a brand new store? At a well known company that probably advertised the jobs. It’s not like 1000 people were there for one cashier’s job.

In 1979 I went to apply at a new Big Bear in El Cajon and there were hundreds of people waiting in line. A poor economy like now, but not the end of the world.

[/quote]
Actually, many more showed up for the 3 or so other positions available, including manager.

But it is a fact: there were roughly 1000 applicants for one (1) cashier job, according to the assistant manager who spoke with my friend.

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[quote=JohnAlt91941][quote=partypup]
I knew a tipping point had occurred in January when a friend of mine in Santa Maria applied for a part time job as a cashier at a Trader Joe’s in Santa Maria ($8/hour), and 1000 people showed up.
[/quote]

I’m not saying things are good, but you do realize this was a brand new store? At a well known company that probably advertised the jobs. It’s not like 1000 people were there for one cashier’s job.

In 1979 I went to apply at a new Big Bear in El Cajon and there were hundreds of people waiting in line. A poor economy like now, but not the end of the world.

[/quote]
Actually, many more showed up for the 3 or so other positions available, including manager.

But it is a fact: there were roughly 1000 applicants for one (1) cashier job, according to the assistant manager who spoke with my friend.

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