OT:Dear jficquette

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[quote=jficquette]Sdgrrl,

Its too late to turn back for probably a generation if we turn the congress and white house over to the Socialists now.

Listen to Party Pup, she is right, our system is much more fragile then we think. The Founding Fathers stressed the word viligent in many writings for a reason.

Thank you for the replies to my posts.

John

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John are you on crack. Quit pre-blaming Obama for the damage already done. The US was just clubbed like a baby seal and before that it was weakened for decades by criminal economic policy. We have built an economy on debt, consumption and bubbles and sent most of our means of production overseas. We have zero engine for job growth and a federal government for all intents and purposes is bankrupt and the whole world is screaming to get rid of the dollar as reserve currency which is the last bubble to pop.

The next president’s job is clean up crew and to keep the peasants from rioting.

[yojimbo]

Isn’t greed similar in its effect to envy? So, shouldn’t re-distribution occur in all aspects instead of just money? If someone needs a kidney and TC has an extra one then shouldn’t he give it up? It’s somewhat greedy to hoard two kidneys when you really only need one to get by. And, I mean, two eyes is a little extravagant as well I would think. A person can get by with one. Oh, and what if someone can’t have kids but you have 3 or 4? That’s definitely unfair and excessive. You probably wouldn’t miss a couple of them anyway.

I think one word might describe TC accurately: covetousness.

Quit coveting what others have TC and you will feel much better about yourself and the world around you.

[yojimbo]

Isn’t greed similar in its effect to envy? So, shouldn’t re-distribution occur in all aspects instead of just money? If someone needs a kidney and TC has an extra one then shouldn’t he give it up? It’s somewhat greedy to hoard two kidneys when you really only need one to get by. And, I mean, two eyes is a little extravagant as well I would think. A person can get by with one. Oh, and what if someone can’t have kids but you have 3 or 4? That’s definitely unfair and excessive. You probably wouldn’t miss a couple of them anyway.

I think one word might describe TC accurately: covetousness.

Quit coveting what others have TC and you will feel much better about yourself and the world around you.

[yojimbo]

Isn’t greed similar in its effect to envy? So, shouldn’t re-distribution occur in all aspects instead of just money? If someone needs a kidney and TC has an extra one then shouldn’t he give it up? It’s somewhat greedy to hoard two kidneys when you really only need one to get by. And, I mean, two eyes is a little extravagant as well I would think. A person can get by with one. Oh, and what if someone can’t have kids but you have 3 or 4? That’s definitely unfair and excessive. You probably wouldn’t miss a couple of them anyway.

I think one word might describe TC accurately: covetousness.

Quit coveting what others have TC and you will feel much better about yourself and the world around you.

[yojimbo]

Isn’t greed similar in its effect to envy? So, shouldn’t re-distribution occur in all aspects instead of just money? If someone needs a kidney and TC has an extra one then shouldn’t he give it up? It’s somewhat greedy to hoard two kidneys when you really only need one to get by. And, I mean, two eyes is a little extravagant as well I would think. A person can get by with one. Oh, and what if someone can’t have kids but you have 3 or 4? That’s definitely unfair and excessive. You probably wouldn’t miss a couple of them anyway.

I think one word might describe TC accurately: covetousness.

Quit coveting what others have TC and you will feel much better about yourself and the world around you.

[yojimbo]

Isn’t greed similar in its effect to envy? So, shouldn’t re-distribution occur in all aspects instead of just money? If someone needs a kidney and TC has an extra one then shouldn’t he give it up? It’s somewhat greedy to hoard two kidneys when you really only need one to get by. And, I mean, two eyes is a little extravagant as well I would think. A person can get by with one. Oh, and what if someone can’t have kids but you have 3 or 4? That’s definitely unfair and excessive. You probably wouldn’t miss a couple of them anyway.

I think one word might describe TC accurately: covetousness.

Quit coveting what others have TC and you will feel much better about yourself and the world around you.

[svelte]

[quote=sdgrrl]It is only because conservatism has lost its true way, that I have turned away. Once conservatism changed from meaning small government to mean conservative morals…that’s when I realized the party I used to support had changed.
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[quote=jficquette]
The Repubican Party started in a noble fashion and continued as a noble party until it got taken over by the religous nuts about 10 years ago.

Goldwater warned against the religous right and said that if they ever take over the Republican Party then you can kiss politics goodbye.
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Wow, I agree with both sdgrrl *and* john…am I in a parallel universe?

If the Republicans would just return to sound financial policies (aka balanced budget), strong military policies and drop all their social issue stances (abortion, religion, gay rights) then I could potentially be a Republican instead of the Dem-leaning Independent that I currently am.

But that will never happen, as the Republicans fear losing their fanatical Christian base would mean they wouldn’t be able to muster enough votes to win anything.

Republican party, listen up: there are many more like me out there (I know, I run into them all the time) that could potentially replace the Christians you lose from your base. Please give it some serious consideration.

One more point: The percentage of the US that is Christian has been dropping for some time now (see the Pew studies)…it is probably a good time to re-evaluate the Republican’s current strategy.

[svelte]

[quote=sdgrrl]It is only because conservatism has lost its true way, that I have turned away. Once conservatism changed from meaning small government to mean conservative morals…that’s when I realized the party I used to support had changed.
[/quote]

[quote=jficquette]
The Repubican Party started in a noble fashion and continued as a noble party until it got taken over by the religous nuts about 10 years ago.

Goldwater warned against the religous right and said that if they ever take over the Republican Party then you can kiss politics goodbye.
[/quote]

Wow, I agree with both sdgrrl *and* john…am I in a parallel universe?

If the Republicans would just return to sound financial policies (aka balanced budget), strong military policies and drop all their social issue stances (abortion, religion, gay rights) then I could potentially be a Republican instead of the Dem-leaning Independent that I currently am.

But that will never happen, as the Republicans fear losing their fanatical Christian base would mean they wouldn’t be able to muster enough votes to win anything.

Republican party, listen up: there are many more like me out there (I know, I run into them all the time) that could potentially replace the Christians you lose from your base. Please give it some serious consideration.

One more point: The percentage of the US that is Christian has been dropping for some time now (see the Pew studies)…it is probably a good time to re-evaluate the Republican’s current strategy.

[svelte]

[quote=sdgrrl]It is only because conservatism has lost its true way, that I have turned away. Once conservatism changed from meaning small government to mean conservative morals…that’s when I realized the party I used to support had changed.
[/quote]

[quote=jficquette]
The Repubican Party started in a noble fashion and continued as a noble party until it got taken over by the religous nuts about 10 years ago.

Goldwater warned against the religous right and said that if they ever take over the Republican Party then you can kiss politics goodbye.
[/quote]

Wow, I agree with both sdgrrl *and* john…am I in a parallel universe?

If the Republicans would just return to sound financial policies (aka balanced budget), strong military policies and drop all their social issue stances (abortion, religion, gay rights) then I could potentially be a Republican instead of the Dem-leaning Independent that I currently am.

But that will never happen, as the Republicans fear losing their fanatical Christian base would mean they wouldn’t be able to muster enough votes to win anything.

Republican party, listen up: there are many more like me out there (I know, I run into them all the time) that could potentially replace the Christians you lose from your base. Please give it some serious consideration.

One more point: The percentage of the US that is Christian has been dropping for some time now (see the Pew studies)…it is probably a good time to re-evaluate the Republican’s current strategy.

[svelte]

[quote=sdgrrl]It is only because conservatism has lost its true way, that I have turned away. Once conservatism changed from meaning small government to mean conservative morals…that’s when I realized the party I used to support had changed.
[/quote]

[quote=jficquette]
The Repubican Party started in a noble fashion and continued as a noble party until it got taken over by the religous nuts about 10 years ago.

Goldwater warned against the religous right and said that if they ever take over the Republican Party then you can kiss politics goodbye.
[/quote]

Wow, I agree with both sdgrrl *and* john…am I in a parallel universe?

If the Republicans would just return to sound financial policies (aka balanced budget), strong military policies and drop all their social issue stances (abortion, religion, gay rights) then I could potentially be a Republican instead of the Dem-leaning Independent that I currently am.

But that will never happen, as the Republicans fear losing their fanatical Christian base would mean they wouldn’t be able to muster enough votes to win anything.

Republican party, listen up: there are many more like me out there (I know, I run into them all the time) that could potentially replace the Christians you lose from your base. Please give it some serious consideration.

One more point: The percentage of the US that is Christian has been dropping for some time now (see the Pew studies)…it is probably a good time to re-evaluate the Republican’s current strategy.

[svelte]

[quote=sdgrrl]It is only because conservatism has lost its true way, that I have turned away. Once conservatism changed from meaning small government to mean conservative morals…that’s when I realized the party I used to support had changed.
[/quote]

[quote=jficquette]
The Repubican Party started in a noble fashion and continued as a noble party until it got taken over by the religous nuts about 10 years ago.

Goldwater warned against the religous right and said that if they ever take over the Republican Party then you can kiss politics goodbye.
[/quote]

Wow, I agree with both sdgrrl *and* john…am I in a parallel universe?

If the Republicans would just return to sound financial policies (aka balanced budget), strong military policies and drop all their social issue stances (abortion, religion, gay rights) then I could potentially be a Republican instead of the Dem-leaning Independent that I currently am.

But that will never happen, as the Republicans fear losing their fanatical Christian base would mean they wouldn’t be able to muster enough votes to win anything.

Republican party, listen up: there are many more like me out there (I know, I run into them all the time) that could potentially replace the Christians you lose from your base. Please give it some serious consideration.

One more point: The percentage of the US that is Christian has been dropping for some time now (see the Pew studies)…it is probably a good time to re-evaluate the Republican’s current strategy.

[sdgrrl]

Here here svelte, I couldn’t agree more. I am also a registered Independent who has leaned Democratic since religion, personal and private information have become campaign topics. I remember when Tipper Gore tried pulling some of the stuff that religious nuts do and I didn’t like it then either.

I do get tired of hearing the current talking points about what Socialist Dems are when the bailout was bipartisan and McCain is talking about the government buying up all the bad mortgages; that made me sick to my stomach when I heard it during the debate.

[sdgrrl]

Here here svelte, I couldn’t agree more. I am also a registered Independent who has leaned Democratic since religion, personal and private information have become campaign topics. I remember when Tipper Gore tried pulling some of the stuff that religious nuts do and I didn’t like it then either.

I do get tired of hearing the current talking points about what Socialist Dems are when the bailout was bipartisan and McCain is talking about the government buying up all the bad mortgages; that made me sick to my stomach when I heard it during the debate.

[sdgrrl]

Here here svelte, I couldn’t agree more. I am also a registered Independent who has leaned Democratic since religion, personal and private information have become campaign topics. I remember when Tipper Gore tried pulling some of the stuff that religious nuts do and I didn’t like it then either.

I do get tired of hearing the current talking points about what Socialist Dems are when the bailout was bipartisan and McCain is talking about the government buying up all the bad mortgages; that made me sick to my stomach when I heard it during the debate.

[sdgrrl]

Here here svelte, I couldn’t agree more. I am also a registered Independent who has leaned Democratic since religion, personal and private information have become campaign topics. I remember when Tipper Gore tried pulling some of the stuff that religious nuts do and I didn’t like it then either.

I do get tired of hearing the current talking points about what Socialist Dems are when the bailout was bipartisan and McCain is talking about the government buying up all the bad mortgages; that made me sick to my stomach when I heard it during the debate.

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