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January 10, 2011 at 1:52 PM #651779January 10, 2011 at 1:53 PM #650679stockstradrParticipant
Black students: “The test is racially biased”.
Asian students: “I need to study harder”.
I very much agree with this point.
January 10, 2011 at 1:53 PM #650747stockstradrParticipantBlack students: “The test is racially biased”.
Asian students: “I need to study harder”.
I very much agree with this point.
January 10, 2011 at 1:53 PM #651331stockstradrParticipantBlack students: “The test is racially biased”.
Asian students: “I need to study harder”.
I very much agree with this point.
January 10, 2011 at 1:53 PM #651466stockstradrParticipantBlack students: “The test is racially biased”.
Asian students: “I need to study harder”.
I very much agree with this point.
January 10, 2011 at 1:53 PM #651789stockstradrParticipantBlack students: “The test is racially biased”.
Asian students: “I need to study harder”.
I very much agree with this point.
January 10, 2011 at 2:10 PM #650694CoronitaParticipantI think the key is to strike a fine balance. My sibling worked hard and played hard. She’s very successful in life. I just worked hard, and had no life and not nearly as successful.
If the goal in life is in a so-so “average” profession, I believe that social skills are far more important than capabilities.
IF the goal in life is to be in a field requiring specialization/etc, then perhaps you can sort of punt on the social skills.
You kinda can’t be a all talk and no action (up to a point) and you kinda can’t be an all doer and no talk, otherwise you won’t get noticed.
I personally don’t really like some of the aspects of asian influence that parents have brought over to the states. For example, putting kids into enrichment programs starting at age 4-5… It’s getting way too extreme imho. And guess what? Asian parents aren’t the only ones doing it….My neighbors (non asian) have been sending their 4 year old to “kumon” for a few hours. And although I didn’t say anything, I was thinking, you’ve got to be kidding me…
Me, I took the lazy approach, and took TG’s advice and bought some cool math games on an ipad. Kid doesn’t want to put it down…. π
January 10, 2011 at 2:10 PM #650762CoronitaParticipantI think the key is to strike a fine balance. My sibling worked hard and played hard. She’s very successful in life. I just worked hard, and had no life and not nearly as successful.
If the goal in life is in a so-so “average” profession, I believe that social skills are far more important than capabilities.
IF the goal in life is to be in a field requiring specialization/etc, then perhaps you can sort of punt on the social skills.
You kinda can’t be a all talk and no action (up to a point) and you kinda can’t be an all doer and no talk, otherwise you won’t get noticed.
I personally don’t really like some of the aspects of asian influence that parents have brought over to the states. For example, putting kids into enrichment programs starting at age 4-5… It’s getting way too extreme imho. And guess what? Asian parents aren’t the only ones doing it….My neighbors (non asian) have been sending their 4 year old to “kumon” for a few hours. And although I didn’t say anything, I was thinking, you’ve got to be kidding me…
Me, I took the lazy approach, and took TG’s advice and bought some cool math games on an ipad. Kid doesn’t want to put it down…. π
January 10, 2011 at 2:10 PM #651346CoronitaParticipantI think the key is to strike a fine balance. My sibling worked hard and played hard. She’s very successful in life. I just worked hard, and had no life and not nearly as successful.
If the goal in life is in a so-so “average” profession, I believe that social skills are far more important than capabilities.
IF the goal in life is to be in a field requiring specialization/etc, then perhaps you can sort of punt on the social skills.
You kinda can’t be a all talk and no action (up to a point) and you kinda can’t be an all doer and no talk, otherwise you won’t get noticed.
I personally don’t really like some of the aspects of asian influence that parents have brought over to the states. For example, putting kids into enrichment programs starting at age 4-5… It’s getting way too extreme imho. And guess what? Asian parents aren’t the only ones doing it….My neighbors (non asian) have been sending their 4 year old to “kumon” for a few hours. And although I didn’t say anything, I was thinking, you’ve got to be kidding me…
Me, I took the lazy approach, and took TG’s advice and bought some cool math games on an ipad. Kid doesn’t want to put it down…. π
January 10, 2011 at 2:10 PM #651481CoronitaParticipantI think the key is to strike a fine balance. My sibling worked hard and played hard. She’s very successful in life. I just worked hard, and had no life and not nearly as successful.
If the goal in life is in a so-so “average” profession, I believe that social skills are far more important than capabilities.
IF the goal in life is to be in a field requiring specialization/etc, then perhaps you can sort of punt on the social skills.
You kinda can’t be a all talk and no action (up to a point) and you kinda can’t be an all doer and no talk, otherwise you won’t get noticed.
I personally don’t really like some of the aspects of asian influence that parents have brought over to the states. For example, putting kids into enrichment programs starting at age 4-5… It’s getting way too extreme imho. And guess what? Asian parents aren’t the only ones doing it….My neighbors (non asian) have been sending their 4 year old to “kumon” for a few hours. And although I didn’t say anything, I was thinking, you’ve got to be kidding me…
Me, I took the lazy approach, and took TG’s advice and bought some cool math games on an ipad. Kid doesn’t want to put it down…. π
January 10, 2011 at 2:10 PM #651805CoronitaParticipantI think the key is to strike a fine balance. My sibling worked hard and played hard. She’s very successful in life. I just worked hard, and had no life and not nearly as successful.
If the goal in life is in a so-so “average” profession, I believe that social skills are far more important than capabilities.
IF the goal in life is to be in a field requiring specialization/etc, then perhaps you can sort of punt on the social skills.
You kinda can’t be a all talk and no action (up to a point) and you kinda can’t be an all doer and no talk, otherwise you won’t get noticed.
I personally don’t really like some of the aspects of asian influence that parents have brought over to the states. For example, putting kids into enrichment programs starting at age 4-5… It’s getting way too extreme imho. And guess what? Asian parents aren’t the only ones doing it….My neighbors (non asian) have been sending their 4 year old to “kumon” for a few hours. And although I didn’t say anything, I was thinking, you’ve got to be kidding me…
Me, I took the lazy approach, and took TG’s advice and bought some cool math games on an ipad. Kid doesn’t want to put it down…. π
January 10, 2011 at 2:21 PM #650704Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=sunny88]
Political correctness is one of the major reasons why progress is so slow. We should all be able to tell the truth no matter how painful it is.[/quote]Sunny: I agree with your assessment, but I think we both know that, in the America of today, frankly speaking one’s mind or stating the truth, is a recipe for disaster.
We’re not prepared (nor are we allowed) to speak the truth, so as not to offend, or make others feel bad, or honestly admit how far this country has fallen, especially when it comes to education, ability and performance.
I have two kids in grade school and it never ceases to amaze me how much effort goes into the “self-esteem” and “self-worth” of the students, and how little effort goes into actually teaching them. Teachers “teach to the test” (essentially gaming the State of California standardized test system, which drives all metrics, especially budgetary dollars). As parents, we’re constantly lectured about “diversity” and “cultural understanding”, but we hear very little about the three “R’s” (Reading, ‘Riting and ‘Rithmetic).
In the 1960s, the California school system was one of the best in the world. Now look at it. Everyone knows why, but we’re too afraid to say it.
January 10, 2011 at 2:21 PM #650772Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=sunny88]
Political correctness is one of the major reasons why progress is so slow. We should all be able to tell the truth no matter how painful it is.[/quote]Sunny: I agree with your assessment, but I think we both know that, in the America of today, frankly speaking one’s mind or stating the truth, is a recipe for disaster.
We’re not prepared (nor are we allowed) to speak the truth, so as not to offend, or make others feel bad, or honestly admit how far this country has fallen, especially when it comes to education, ability and performance.
I have two kids in grade school and it never ceases to amaze me how much effort goes into the “self-esteem” and “self-worth” of the students, and how little effort goes into actually teaching them. Teachers “teach to the test” (essentially gaming the State of California standardized test system, which drives all metrics, especially budgetary dollars). As parents, we’re constantly lectured about “diversity” and “cultural understanding”, but we hear very little about the three “R’s” (Reading, ‘Riting and ‘Rithmetic).
In the 1960s, the California school system was one of the best in the world. Now look at it. Everyone knows why, but we’re too afraid to say it.
January 10, 2011 at 2:21 PM #651355Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=sunny88]
Political correctness is one of the major reasons why progress is so slow. We should all be able to tell the truth no matter how painful it is.[/quote]Sunny: I agree with your assessment, but I think we both know that, in the America of today, frankly speaking one’s mind or stating the truth, is a recipe for disaster.
We’re not prepared (nor are we allowed) to speak the truth, so as not to offend, or make others feel bad, or honestly admit how far this country has fallen, especially when it comes to education, ability and performance.
I have two kids in grade school and it never ceases to amaze me how much effort goes into the “self-esteem” and “self-worth” of the students, and how little effort goes into actually teaching them. Teachers “teach to the test” (essentially gaming the State of California standardized test system, which drives all metrics, especially budgetary dollars). As parents, we’re constantly lectured about “diversity” and “cultural understanding”, but we hear very little about the three “R’s” (Reading, ‘Riting and ‘Rithmetic).
In the 1960s, the California school system was one of the best in the world. Now look at it. Everyone knows why, but we’re too afraid to say it.
January 10, 2011 at 2:21 PM #651491Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=sunny88]
Political correctness is one of the major reasons why progress is so slow. We should all be able to tell the truth no matter how painful it is.[/quote]Sunny: I agree with your assessment, but I think we both know that, in the America of today, frankly speaking one’s mind or stating the truth, is a recipe for disaster.
We’re not prepared (nor are we allowed) to speak the truth, so as not to offend, or make others feel bad, or honestly admit how far this country has fallen, especially when it comes to education, ability and performance.
I have two kids in grade school and it never ceases to amaze me how much effort goes into the “self-esteem” and “self-worth” of the students, and how little effort goes into actually teaching them. Teachers “teach to the test” (essentially gaming the State of California standardized test system, which drives all metrics, especially budgetary dollars). As parents, we’re constantly lectured about “diversity” and “cultural understanding”, but we hear very little about the three “R’s” (Reading, ‘Riting and ‘Rithmetic).
In the 1960s, the California school system was one of the best in the world. Now look at it. Everyone knows why, but we’re too afraid to say it.
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