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August 18, 2011 at 4:50 PM #722275August 19, 2011 at 2:08 PM #721408
CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1]what do you guys think of the latest HP announcement.
I think that spinning off the hardware business is a good move.
1) I think Mark Hurd had the last laugh
2) I think it’s a bonehead move by HP, considering they are number 1.
3) I think the CEO is kidding himself and the board thinking that he will be successful in transforming HP into a software services business. But what do you expect from a CEO that is from SAP who doesn’t understand the hardware business.
4) I think they should have never tried the web o/s /Palm thing…I knew that would be a disaster, just like the blackberry playbook.
5) I think shouldn’t bother trying to build a tablet/phone. No way they can keep up. What they should be focusing on is enabling the PC and computer to seemlessly integrate with tablets/and phones.
For example, some just stupid simple shit they should be able to get done in a few months include ….open the entire printing/printer/scanning business/service into the mobile/tablet space… Yes, yes I’m fully aware you can print via Bluetooth BPP/BIP (I wrote shit that does this), but there’s so much more that can be done. Some stupid simple low hanging fruit would be to leverage NFC for printing/printer service discovery and job dispatch. For example, touch your smartphone onto your printer to send a doc/file/image via NFC…
There’s other things they could do to make the tablet more integrated with the PC. Bottom line is the tablet still cannot be carried around alone, because it’s so underpowered. You really need a remote PC/vnc like solution between a tablet and PC. You need smart peripheral devices that work with your tablet, and you need to be able to seemlessly exchange date between tablet and a home computer.
HP’s problem is that they are no longer run by smart enginerds that can think out of the box anymore. They’re just run by MBA’s who focus on cutting cost, or trying to squeeze every dime out of a non-innovative product line…
It started with Fiorina, and to some extent extended to Hurd, and now with the current CEO….And it’s now where it is because it lacks any ingenuity…A company devoid of creativity and talent, even in their own businesses…And it’s ridiculous that they want to sell it, without a plan of what to do next.6)That said, until the current CEO is out, I’d say HP’s troubles are just the beginning.
The CEO and CTO really need to go… Obviously neither have the innovative mind/creativity that once Hewlett himself had…August 19, 2011 at 2:08 PM #721501CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1]what do you guys think of the latest HP announcement.
I think that spinning off the hardware business is a good move.
1) I think Mark Hurd had the last laugh
2) I think it’s a bonehead move by HP, considering they are number 1.
3) I think the CEO is kidding himself and the board thinking that he will be successful in transforming HP into a software services business. But what do you expect from a CEO that is from SAP who doesn’t understand the hardware business.
4) I think they should have never tried the web o/s /Palm thing…I knew that would be a disaster, just like the blackberry playbook.
5) I think shouldn’t bother trying to build a tablet/phone. No way they can keep up. What they should be focusing on is enabling the PC and computer to seemlessly integrate with tablets/and phones.
For example, some just stupid simple shit they should be able to get done in a few months include ….open the entire printing/printer/scanning business/service into the mobile/tablet space… Yes, yes I’m fully aware you can print via Bluetooth BPP/BIP (I wrote shit that does this), but there’s so much more that can be done. Some stupid simple low hanging fruit would be to leverage NFC for printing/printer service discovery and job dispatch. For example, touch your smartphone onto your printer to send a doc/file/image via NFC…
There’s other things they could do to make the tablet more integrated with the PC. Bottom line is the tablet still cannot be carried around alone, because it’s so underpowered. You really need a remote PC/vnc like solution between a tablet and PC. You need smart peripheral devices that work with your tablet, and you need to be able to seemlessly exchange date between tablet and a home computer.
HP’s problem is that they are no longer run by smart enginerds that can think out of the box anymore. They’re just run by MBA’s who focus on cutting cost, or trying to squeeze every dime out of a non-innovative product line…
It started with Fiorina, and to some extent extended to Hurd, and now with the current CEO….And it’s now where it is because it lacks any ingenuity…A company devoid of creativity and talent, even in their own businesses…And it’s ridiculous that they want to sell it, without a plan of what to do next.6)That said, until the current CEO is out, I’d say HP’s troubles are just the beginning.
The CEO and CTO really need to go… Obviously neither have the innovative mind/creativity that once Hewlett himself had…August 19, 2011 at 2:08 PM #722102CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1]what do you guys think of the latest HP announcement.
I think that spinning off the hardware business is a good move.
1) I think Mark Hurd had the last laugh
2) I think it’s a bonehead move by HP, considering they are number 1.
3) I think the CEO is kidding himself and the board thinking that he will be successful in transforming HP into a software services business. But what do you expect from a CEO that is from SAP who doesn’t understand the hardware business.
4) I think they should have never tried the web o/s /Palm thing…I knew that would be a disaster, just like the blackberry playbook.
5) I think shouldn’t bother trying to build a tablet/phone. No way they can keep up. What they should be focusing on is enabling the PC and computer to seemlessly integrate with tablets/and phones.
For example, some just stupid simple shit they should be able to get done in a few months include ….open the entire printing/printer/scanning business/service into the mobile/tablet space… Yes, yes I’m fully aware you can print via Bluetooth BPP/BIP (I wrote shit that does this), but there’s so much more that can be done. Some stupid simple low hanging fruit would be to leverage NFC for printing/printer service discovery and job dispatch. For example, touch your smartphone onto your printer to send a doc/file/image via NFC…
There’s other things they could do to make the tablet more integrated with the PC. Bottom line is the tablet still cannot be carried around alone, because it’s so underpowered. You really need a remote PC/vnc like solution between a tablet and PC. You need smart peripheral devices that work with your tablet, and you need to be able to seemlessly exchange date between tablet and a home computer.
HP’s problem is that they are no longer run by smart enginerds that can think out of the box anymore. They’re just run by MBA’s who focus on cutting cost, or trying to squeeze every dime out of a non-innovative product line…
It started with Fiorina, and to some extent extended to Hurd, and now with the current CEO….And it’s now where it is because it lacks any ingenuity…A company devoid of creativity and talent, even in their own businesses…And it’s ridiculous that they want to sell it, without a plan of what to do next.6)That said, until the current CEO is out, I’d say HP’s troubles are just the beginning.
The CEO and CTO really need to go… Obviously neither have the innovative mind/creativity that once Hewlett himself had…August 19, 2011 at 2:08 PM #722259CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1]what do you guys think of the latest HP announcement.
I think that spinning off the hardware business is a good move.
1) I think Mark Hurd had the last laugh
2) I think it’s a bonehead move by HP, considering they are number 1.
3) I think the CEO is kidding himself and the board thinking that he will be successful in transforming HP into a software services business. But what do you expect from a CEO that is from SAP who doesn’t understand the hardware business.
4) I think they should have never tried the web o/s /Palm thing…I knew that would be a disaster, just like the blackberry playbook.
5) I think shouldn’t bother trying to build a tablet/phone. No way they can keep up. What they should be focusing on is enabling the PC and computer to seemlessly integrate with tablets/and phones.
For example, some just stupid simple shit they should be able to get done in a few months include ….open the entire printing/printer/scanning business/service into the mobile/tablet space… Yes, yes I’m fully aware you can print via Bluetooth BPP/BIP (I wrote shit that does this), but there’s so much more that can be done. Some stupid simple low hanging fruit would be to leverage NFC for printing/printer service discovery and job dispatch. For example, touch your smartphone onto your printer to send a doc/file/image via NFC…
There’s other things they could do to make the tablet more integrated with the PC. Bottom line is the tablet still cannot be carried around alone, because it’s so underpowered. You really need a remote PC/vnc like solution between a tablet and PC. You need smart peripheral devices that work with your tablet, and you need to be able to seemlessly exchange date between tablet and a home computer.
HP’s problem is that they are no longer run by smart enginerds that can think out of the box anymore. They’re just run by MBA’s who focus on cutting cost, or trying to squeeze every dime out of a non-innovative product line…
It started with Fiorina, and to some extent extended to Hurd, and now with the current CEO….And it’s now where it is because it lacks any ingenuity…A company devoid of creativity and talent, even in their own businesses…And it’s ridiculous that they want to sell it, without a plan of what to do next.6)That said, until the current CEO is out, I’d say HP’s troubles are just the beginning.
The CEO and CTO really need to go… Obviously neither have the innovative mind/creativity that once Hewlett himself had…August 19, 2011 at 2:08 PM #722622CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1]what do you guys think of the latest HP announcement.
I think that spinning off the hardware business is a good move.
1) I think Mark Hurd had the last laugh
2) I think it’s a bonehead move by HP, considering they are number 1.
3) I think the CEO is kidding himself and the board thinking that he will be successful in transforming HP into a software services business. But what do you expect from a CEO that is from SAP who doesn’t understand the hardware business.
4) I think they should have never tried the web o/s /Palm thing…I knew that would be a disaster, just like the blackberry playbook.
5) I think shouldn’t bother trying to build a tablet/phone. No way they can keep up. What they should be focusing on is enabling the PC and computer to seemlessly integrate with tablets/and phones.
For example, some just stupid simple shit they should be able to get done in a few months include ….open the entire printing/printer/scanning business/service into the mobile/tablet space… Yes, yes I’m fully aware you can print via Bluetooth BPP/BIP (I wrote shit that does this), but there’s so much more that can be done. Some stupid simple low hanging fruit would be to leverage NFC for printing/printer service discovery and job dispatch. For example, touch your smartphone onto your printer to send a doc/file/image via NFC…
There’s other things they could do to make the tablet more integrated with the PC. Bottom line is the tablet still cannot be carried around alone, because it’s so underpowered. You really need a remote PC/vnc like solution between a tablet and PC. You need smart peripheral devices that work with your tablet, and you need to be able to seemlessly exchange date between tablet and a home computer.
HP’s problem is that they are no longer run by smart enginerds that can think out of the box anymore. They’re just run by MBA’s who focus on cutting cost, or trying to squeeze every dime out of a non-innovative product line…
It started with Fiorina, and to some extent extended to Hurd, and now with the current CEO….And it’s now where it is because it lacks any ingenuity…A company devoid of creativity and talent, even in their own businesses…And it’s ridiculous that they want to sell it, without a plan of what to do next.6)That said, until the current CEO is out, I’d say HP’s troubles are just the beginning.
The CEO and CTO really need to go… Obviously neither have the innovative mind/creativity that once Hewlett himself had…September 21, 2011 at 10:24 PM #729610briansd1
GuestWhat about Meg Whitman coming to save HP?
They’ve got to be kidding, right?
September 21, 2011 at 10:43 PM #729611CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1]What about Meg Whitman coming to save HP?
They’ve got to be kidding, right?
Told you about shorting HP after Hurd left…. you would have made close to a 50% return in slightly more than a year.
Mind you, HP’s closing price today…$24.
And told you about the spinoff PC business decision was a fluke.
http://news.businessweek.com/article.asp?documentKey=1377-aVsvm2fYPOJg-6LJC51MM4GUINNP8BRL6Q261E8
BTW: if the current CEO gets fired, he gets $35million for a 10month fvck up stint.
Psss. You want a tip on how to make a killing on shorting a company? Find a company that makes a drastic 180 degree business decision ad-hoc without first doing enough due diligence and having no real concrete plan of execution in place before making an official press release. Also, make sure the company, after making an obvious bonehead move with no clear direction, back-pedals in real time and tries o make corrections “as they go along”, giving the investment community that sense of poop-in-pants unconfortableness when investors don’t really know what the company is trying to do.
HP over the past year fit the mold. I can only thing of one company that foobared even greater than HP…. Netflix….. And damn that would have been a pretty short….
September 21, 2011 at 11:22 PM #729612Zeitgeist
Participant“Are you prepared yet?
No?
Well I’m sorry, because it’s too late now.
September 22, 2011 at 11:06 AM #729626carlsbadworker
ParticipantIt is apparent that at HP, the board needs to be fired rather than the CEOs.
September 22, 2011 at 12:12 PM #729632UCGal
Participant[quote=carlsbadworker]It is apparent that at HP, the board needs to be fired rather than the CEOs.[/quote]
I just heard on Bloomberg that it’s going to be officially announced that Meg will be CEO. And it’s permanent, not temporary.What the hell are they thinking?
September 22, 2011 at 12:25 PM #729635GuestI’m betting that under Meg Whitman, HP will be a disaster and will be broken up. Too bad. Another great American company goes down the tube.
I’m making the prediction that HP’s computer division will eventually be sold off to a Chinese or Taiwanese PC maker.
What about Dell? Its future is not so bright.
September 22, 2011 at 2:10 PM #729638CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1]I’m betting that under Meg Whitman, HP will be a disaster and will be broken up. Too bad. Another great American company goes down the tube.
I’m making the prediction that HP’s computer division will eventually be sold off to a Chinese or Taiwanese PC maker.
What about Dell? Its future is not so bright.[/quote]
The problem with these dinosaur tech companies is that the stopped hiring innovative techies to run the company but instead hire a bunch of useless mba’s to try to squeeze a penny out of an already low margin business. HP lacks inovative people
September 22, 2011 at 3:12 PM #729642yooklid
Participant[quote=flu]
The problem with these dinosaur tech companies is that the stopped hiring innovative techies to run the company but instead hire a bunch of useless mba’s to try to squeeze a penny out of an already low margin business. HP lacks inovative people[/quote]Perhaps they should promote Lynch (Autonomy) to the board? He’s impressive at the helm of his company the past 15+ years.
September 22, 2011 at 5:20 PM #729649profhoff
ParticipantHP, where would-be California Republican politicians go to wreak havoc!
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