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March 10, 2011 at 11:53 AM #676819March 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM #675678
briansd1
Guest[quote=jstoesz]Brian,
You are a stich…seriously moral high ground…are you kidding me?
This is politics not paddy cake.
Buck up, and revel in the childish nature of it all. I dare you to read a little history. Our politics today are so boring compared to the intrigue of yesteryear. [/quote]
When I was a child I used to watch Little House on the Prairie on TV. That’s my idea of family values.
It seems that in reality the Medicis and the Borgias are more reflective of family values.
March 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM #675735Guest[quote=jstoesz]Brian,
You are a stich…seriously moral high ground…are you kidding me?
This is politics not paddy cake.
Buck up, and revel in the childish nature of it all. I dare you to read a little history. Our politics today are so boring compared to the intrigue of yesteryear. [/quote]
When I was a child I used to watch Little House on the Prairie on TV. That’s my idea of family values.
It seems that in reality the Medicis and the Borgias are more reflective of family values.
March 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM #676347Guest[quote=jstoesz]Brian,
You are a stich…seriously moral high ground…are you kidding me?
This is politics not paddy cake.
Buck up, and revel in the childish nature of it all. I dare you to read a little history. Our politics today are so boring compared to the intrigue of yesteryear. [/quote]
When I was a child I used to watch Little House on the Prairie on TV. That’s my idea of family values.
It seems that in reality the Medicis and the Borgias are more reflective of family values.
March 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM #676483Guest[quote=jstoesz]Brian,
You are a stich…seriously moral high ground…are you kidding me?
This is politics not paddy cake.
Buck up, and revel in the childish nature of it all. I dare you to read a little history. Our politics today are so boring compared to the intrigue of yesteryear. [/quote]
When I was a child I used to watch Little House on the Prairie on TV. That’s my idea of family values.
It seems that in reality the Medicis and the Borgias are more reflective of family values.
March 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM #676829Guest[quote=jstoesz]Brian,
You are a stich…seriously moral high ground…are you kidding me?
This is politics not paddy cake.
Buck up, and revel in the childish nature of it all. I dare you to read a little history. Our politics today are so boring compared to the intrigue of yesteryear. [/quote]
When I was a child I used to watch Little House on the Prairie on TV. That’s my idea of family values.
It seems that in reality the Medicis and the Borgias are more reflective of family values.
March 10, 2011 at 2:17 PM #675743Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=briansd1]
But so what? Conservatives have always been sanctimonious and critical whereas liberals are permissive.My conservatives grand-parents were sanctimonious and condescending about everything. The “good people” at Church, while kind and willing to help, always viewed the “bad people” askance.
I think that we are all conservative on this blog since we tend to be sanctimonious about people who don’t manage their finances well.[/quote]
Brian: Or manage their weight well, or engage in “redneck culture”, or believe in other than “progressive” values.
Sorry, Brian, but people are tribal and use less common sense than you think. An example would be your generalization above in which all conservatives (and you actually mean “right-wingers”) are pompous and sanctimonious and all progressives (“left-wingers”) are permissive and understanding. Call me crazy, but that equation of yours doesn’t work so well in the real world, and is easily debunked by facts and reality.
When confronted with these facts and this reality, you’ll invariably either evade answering or come up with some excuse, which proves the point that people believe what they want to believe and will construct the necessary “reality” to support that point of view, facts be damned.
Leftists (as opposed to Liberals or Progressives) are not critical thinkers, any more than Glenn Beck (reactionary right-wing) is a critical thinker. If you want evidence of this, witness the recent nonsense in Wisconsin, whereby angry Leftists argued for maintenance of an unaffordable, unsupportable status quo ante and Michael Moore gabbled on about having a “right” to rich people’s money. No logic, no critical thinking, and no fairness. Plenty of sanctimony to go around, though.
March 10, 2011 at 2:17 PM #675799Participant[quote=briansd1]
But so what? Conservatives have always been sanctimonious and critical whereas liberals are permissive.My conservatives grand-parents were sanctimonious and condescending about everything. The “good people” at Church, while kind and willing to help, always viewed the “bad people” askance.
I think that we are all conservative on this blog since we tend to be sanctimonious about people who don’t manage their finances well.[/quote]
Brian: Or manage their weight well, or engage in “redneck culture”, or believe in other than “progressive” values.
Sorry, Brian, but people are tribal and use less common sense than you think. An example would be your generalization above in which all conservatives (and you actually mean “right-wingers”) are pompous and sanctimonious and all progressives (“left-wingers”) are permissive and understanding. Call me crazy, but that equation of yours doesn’t work so well in the real world, and is easily debunked by facts and reality.
When confronted with these facts and this reality, you’ll invariably either evade answering or come up with some excuse, which proves the point that people believe what they want to believe and will construct the necessary “reality” to support that point of view, facts be damned.
Leftists (as opposed to Liberals or Progressives) are not critical thinkers, any more than Glenn Beck (reactionary right-wing) is a critical thinker. If you want evidence of this, witness the recent nonsense in Wisconsin, whereby angry Leftists argued for maintenance of an unaffordable, unsupportable status quo ante and Michael Moore gabbled on about having a “right” to rich people’s money. No logic, no critical thinking, and no fairness. Plenty of sanctimony to go around, though.
March 10, 2011 at 2:17 PM #676411Participant[quote=briansd1]
But so what? Conservatives have always been sanctimonious and critical whereas liberals are permissive.My conservatives grand-parents were sanctimonious and condescending about everything. The “good people” at Church, while kind and willing to help, always viewed the “bad people” askance.
I think that we are all conservative on this blog since we tend to be sanctimonious about people who don’t manage their finances well.[/quote]
Brian: Or manage their weight well, or engage in “redneck culture”, or believe in other than “progressive” values.
Sorry, Brian, but people are tribal and use less common sense than you think. An example would be your generalization above in which all conservatives (and you actually mean “right-wingers”) are pompous and sanctimonious and all progressives (“left-wingers”) are permissive and understanding. Call me crazy, but that equation of yours doesn’t work so well in the real world, and is easily debunked by facts and reality.
When confronted with these facts and this reality, you’ll invariably either evade answering or come up with some excuse, which proves the point that people believe what they want to believe and will construct the necessary “reality” to support that point of view, facts be damned.
Leftists (as opposed to Liberals or Progressives) are not critical thinkers, any more than Glenn Beck (reactionary right-wing) is a critical thinker. If you want evidence of this, witness the recent nonsense in Wisconsin, whereby angry Leftists argued for maintenance of an unaffordable, unsupportable status quo ante and Michael Moore gabbled on about having a “right” to rich people’s money. No logic, no critical thinking, and no fairness. Plenty of sanctimony to go around, though.
March 10, 2011 at 2:17 PM #676548Participant[quote=briansd1]
But so what? Conservatives have always been sanctimonious and critical whereas liberals are permissive.My conservatives grand-parents were sanctimonious and condescending about everything. The “good people” at Church, while kind and willing to help, always viewed the “bad people” askance.
I think that we are all conservative on this blog since we tend to be sanctimonious about people who don’t manage their finances well.[/quote]
Brian: Or manage their weight well, or engage in “redneck culture”, or believe in other than “progressive” values.
Sorry, Brian, but people are tribal and use less common sense than you think. An example would be your generalization above in which all conservatives (and you actually mean “right-wingers”) are pompous and sanctimonious and all progressives (“left-wingers”) are permissive and understanding. Call me crazy, but that equation of yours doesn’t work so well in the real world, and is easily debunked by facts and reality.
When confronted with these facts and this reality, you’ll invariably either evade answering or come up with some excuse, which proves the point that people believe what they want to believe and will construct the necessary “reality” to support that point of view, facts be damned.
Leftists (as opposed to Liberals or Progressives) are not critical thinkers, any more than Glenn Beck (reactionary right-wing) is a critical thinker. If you want evidence of this, witness the recent nonsense in Wisconsin, whereby angry Leftists argued for maintenance of an unaffordable, unsupportable status quo ante and Michael Moore gabbled on about having a “right” to rich people’s money. No logic, no critical thinking, and no fairness. Plenty of sanctimony to go around, though.
March 10, 2011 at 2:17 PM #676894Participant[quote=briansd1]
But so what? Conservatives have always been sanctimonious and critical whereas liberals are permissive.My conservatives grand-parents were sanctimonious and condescending about everything. The “good people” at Church, while kind and willing to help, always viewed the “bad people” askance.
I think that we are all conservative on this blog since we tend to be sanctimonious about people who don’t manage their finances well.[/quote]
Brian: Or manage their weight well, or engage in “redneck culture”, or believe in other than “progressive” values.
Sorry, Brian, but people are tribal and use less common sense than you think. An example would be your generalization above in which all conservatives (and you actually mean “right-wingers”) are pompous and sanctimonious and all progressives (“left-wingers”) are permissive and understanding. Call me crazy, but that equation of yours doesn’t work so well in the real world, and is easily debunked by facts and reality.
When confronted with these facts and this reality, you’ll invariably either evade answering or come up with some excuse, which proves the point that people believe what they want to believe and will construct the necessary “reality” to support that point of view, facts be damned.
Leftists (as opposed to Liberals or Progressives) are not critical thinkers, any more than Glenn Beck (reactionary right-wing) is a critical thinker. If you want evidence of this, witness the recent nonsense in Wisconsin, whereby angry Leftists argued for maintenance of an unaffordable, unsupportable status quo ante and Michael Moore gabbled on about having a “right” to rich people’s money. No logic, no critical thinking, and no fairness. Plenty of sanctimony to go around, though.
March 10, 2011 at 3:12 PM #675761Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Sorry, Brian, but people are tribal and use less common sense than you think.
[/quote]Francis Fukuyama’s book on social evolution sounds interesting.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Leftists (as opposed to Liberals or Progressives) are not critical thinkers, any more than Glenn Beck (reactionary right-wing) is a critical thinker. If you want evidence of this, witness the recent nonsense in Wisconsin, whereby angry Leftists argued for maintenance of an unaffordable, unsupportable status quo ante and Michael Moore gabbled on about having a “right” to rich people’s money. No logic, no critical thinking, and no fairness. Plenty of sanctimony to go around, though.[/quote]
I’m ambivalent about the situation in Wisconsin.
Yes, something needs to be done for the sake of fiscal discipline. And the state workers in Wisconsin made concessions.
But it is necessary to undo decades of labor gains and drag everybody back to the labor conditions of the past?
I do however agree with the position that the State is there to serve the people, not to perpetuate the privileges of a class of public employees who live in their own good old boys’ club.
March 10, 2011 at 3:12 PM #675817Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Sorry, Brian, but people are tribal and use less common sense than you think.
[/quote]Francis Fukuyama’s book on social evolution sounds interesting.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Leftists (as opposed to Liberals or Progressives) are not critical thinkers, any more than Glenn Beck (reactionary right-wing) is a critical thinker. If you want evidence of this, witness the recent nonsense in Wisconsin, whereby angry Leftists argued for maintenance of an unaffordable, unsupportable status quo ante and Michael Moore gabbled on about having a “right” to rich people’s money. No logic, no critical thinking, and no fairness. Plenty of sanctimony to go around, though.[/quote]
I’m ambivalent about the situation in Wisconsin.
Yes, something needs to be done for the sake of fiscal discipline. And the state workers in Wisconsin made concessions.
But it is necessary to undo decades of labor gains and drag everybody back to the labor conditions of the past?
I do however agree with the position that the State is there to serve the people, not to perpetuate the privileges of a class of public employees who live in their own good old boys’ club.
March 10, 2011 at 3:12 PM #676430Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Sorry, Brian, but people are tribal and use less common sense than you think.
[/quote]Francis Fukuyama’s book on social evolution sounds interesting.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Leftists (as opposed to Liberals or Progressives) are not critical thinkers, any more than Glenn Beck (reactionary right-wing) is a critical thinker. If you want evidence of this, witness the recent nonsense in Wisconsin, whereby angry Leftists argued for maintenance of an unaffordable, unsupportable status quo ante and Michael Moore gabbled on about having a “right” to rich people’s money. No logic, no critical thinking, and no fairness. Plenty of sanctimony to go around, though.[/quote]
I’m ambivalent about the situation in Wisconsin.
Yes, something needs to be done for the sake of fiscal discipline. And the state workers in Wisconsin made concessions.
But it is necessary to undo decades of labor gains and drag everybody back to the labor conditions of the past?
I do however agree with the position that the State is there to serve the people, not to perpetuate the privileges of a class of public employees who live in their own good old boys’ club.
March 10, 2011 at 3:12 PM #676565Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Sorry, Brian, but people are tribal and use less common sense than you think.
[/quote]Francis Fukuyama’s book on social evolution sounds interesting.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Leftists (as opposed to Liberals or Progressives) are not critical thinkers, any more than Glenn Beck (reactionary right-wing) is a critical thinker. If you want evidence of this, witness the recent nonsense in Wisconsin, whereby angry Leftists argued for maintenance of an unaffordable, unsupportable status quo ante and Michael Moore gabbled on about having a “right” to rich people’s money. No logic, no critical thinking, and no fairness. Plenty of sanctimony to go around, though.[/quote]
I’m ambivalent about the situation in Wisconsin.
Yes, something needs to be done for the sake of fiscal discipline. And the state workers in Wisconsin made concessions.
But it is necessary to undo decades of labor gains and drag everybody back to the labor conditions of the past?
I do however agree with the position that the State is there to serve the people, not to perpetuate the privileges of a class of public employees who live in their own good old boys’ club.
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