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October 28, 2008 at 4:48 PM #294834October 28, 2008 at 10:06 PM #294542
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Participant[quote=davelj][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]
LOL so you are going to vote for Castro Jr even though you are libertarian?? Socialism is the opposite of libertarianism. Something doesn’t add up with your post.
John
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Sorry dude his views are not unique.
Also, its a bit hyperbolic to call him Castro Jr.
If you have a better pick of the 2, who would it be?
Cuz most people think McCain sucks.
[/quote]Pick between Castro and Obama? Probably Castro since at least he is honest about his views.
John[/quote]
I was saying between McCain and Obama but your assertion that Castro would be better than Obama really gives a clue as to how seriously you take yourself.[/quote]
No it shows what Obama really is and your’re too blind to see it.
John
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I have lived under a liberal president and visited communist countries (Cuba, in fact). The assertion that being liberal is to the left of Communist is ignorant and not supportable.John you just say stuff that is so crazy that you can’t be taken seriously.[/quote]
I’m a small-l libertarian and I’m voting for Obama as well. I’ve never voted for a democrat and I rarely vote republican. I generally vote for the libertarian or I write in a candidate. Normally, Obama’s economic positions wouldn’t appeal to me. But unfortunately we’ve gotten ourselves into a position where I think we need a person that “the masses” feel comfortable with and have some confidence in. Yeah, he’ll probably raise taxes and do plenty of other things that I won’t like too much, but… frankly, Bush and his band of republican morons have fucked things up so badly that the democrats actually deserve a shot to run things for a while. Even if it doesn’t work out. The people want to give Obama a shot. Let him have it. I doubt it will be the disaster the republicans think it will be – although it certainly won’t be the panacea that democrats are hoping for either. But, McCain? Please. I almost threw my shoe at the TV last night when he said, “We need to stop these house prices from falling and I think my economic program will do that.” Sorry, I just can’t vote for anyone that’s that clueless. At least Paul Volcker – the last real Fed Chairman that we’ve had – has Obama’s ear. That trumps anything that I’ve seen out of McCain.
[/quote]Sorry, no real point here. I just wanted to see how many quotes inside a quote in a row we could get. I say we go for the piggington record.
October 28, 2008 at 10:06 PM #294876Participant[quote=davelj][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]
LOL so you are going to vote for Castro Jr even though you are libertarian?? Socialism is the opposite of libertarianism. Something doesn’t add up with your post.
John
[/quote]
Sorry dude his views are not unique.
Also, its a bit hyperbolic to call him Castro Jr.
If you have a better pick of the 2, who would it be?
Cuz most people think McCain sucks.
[/quote]Pick between Castro and Obama? Probably Castro since at least he is honest about his views.
John[/quote]
I was saying between McCain and Obama but your assertion that Castro would be better than Obama really gives a clue as to how seriously you take yourself.[/quote]
No it shows what Obama really is and your’re too blind to see it.
John
[/quote]
I have lived under a liberal president and visited communist countries (Cuba, in fact). The assertion that being liberal is to the left of Communist is ignorant and not supportable.John you just say stuff that is so crazy that you can’t be taken seriously.[/quote]
I’m a small-l libertarian and I’m voting for Obama as well. I’ve never voted for a democrat and I rarely vote republican. I generally vote for the libertarian or I write in a candidate. Normally, Obama’s economic positions wouldn’t appeal to me. But unfortunately we’ve gotten ourselves into a position where I think we need a person that “the masses” feel comfortable with and have some confidence in. Yeah, he’ll probably raise taxes and do plenty of other things that I won’t like too much, but… frankly, Bush and his band of republican morons have fucked things up so badly that the democrats actually deserve a shot to run things for a while. Even if it doesn’t work out. The people want to give Obama a shot. Let him have it. I doubt it will be the disaster the republicans think it will be – although it certainly won’t be the panacea that democrats are hoping for either. But, McCain? Please. I almost threw my shoe at the TV last night when he said, “We need to stop these house prices from falling and I think my economic program will do that.” Sorry, I just can’t vote for anyone that’s that clueless. At least Paul Volcker – the last real Fed Chairman that we’ve had – has Obama’s ear. That trumps anything that I’ve seen out of McCain.
[/quote]Sorry, no real point here. I just wanted to see how many quotes inside a quote in a row we could get. I say we go for the piggington record.
October 28, 2008 at 10:06 PM #294899Participant[quote=davelj][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]
LOL so you are going to vote for Castro Jr even though you are libertarian?? Socialism is the opposite of libertarianism. Something doesn’t add up with your post.
John
[/quote]
Sorry dude his views are not unique.
Also, its a bit hyperbolic to call him Castro Jr.
If you have a better pick of the 2, who would it be?
Cuz most people think McCain sucks.
[/quote]Pick between Castro and Obama? Probably Castro since at least he is honest about his views.
John[/quote]
I was saying between McCain and Obama but your assertion that Castro would be better than Obama really gives a clue as to how seriously you take yourself.[/quote]
No it shows what Obama really is and your’re too blind to see it.
John
[/quote]
I have lived under a liberal president and visited communist countries (Cuba, in fact). The assertion that being liberal is to the left of Communist is ignorant and not supportable.John you just say stuff that is so crazy that you can’t be taken seriously.[/quote]
I’m a small-l libertarian and I’m voting for Obama as well. I’ve never voted for a democrat and I rarely vote republican. I generally vote for the libertarian or I write in a candidate. Normally, Obama’s economic positions wouldn’t appeal to me. But unfortunately we’ve gotten ourselves into a position where I think we need a person that “the masses” feel comfortable with and have some confidence in. Yeah, he’ll probably raise taxes and do plenty of other things that I won’t like too much, but… frankly, Bush and his band of republican morons have fucked things up so badly that the democrats actually deserve a shot to run things for a while. Even if it doesn’t work out. The people want to give Obama a shot. Let him have it. I doubt it will be the disaster the republicans think it will be – although it certainly won’t be the panacea that democrats are hoping for either. But, McCain? Please. I almost threw my shoe at the TV last night when he said, “We need to stop these house prices from falling and I think my economic program will do that.” Sorry, I just can’t vote for anyone that’s that clueless. At least Paul Volcker – the last real Fed Chairman that we’ve had – has Obama’s ear. That trumps anything that I’ve seen out of McCain.
[/quote]Sorry, no real point here. I just wanted to see how many quotes inside a quote in a row we could get. I say we go for the piggington record.
October 28, 2008 at 10:06 PM #294912Participant[quote=davelj][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]
LOL so you are going to vote for Castro Jr even though you are libertarian?? Socialism is the opposite of libertarianism. Something doesn’t add up with your post.
John
[/quote]
Sorry dude his views are not unique.
Also, its a bit hyperbolic to call him Castro Jr.
If you have a better pick of the 2, who would it be?
Cuz most people think McCain sucks.
[/quote]Pick between Castro and Obama? Probably Castro since at least he is honest about his views.
John[/quote]
I was saying between McCain and Obama but your assertion that Castro would be better than Obama really gives a clue as to how seriously you take yourself.[/quote]
No it shows what Obama really is and your’re too blind to see it.
John
[/quote]
I have lived under a liberal president and visited communist countries (Cuba, in fact). The assertion that being liberal is to the left of Communist is ignorant and not supportable.John you just say stuff that is so crazy that you can’t be taken seriously.[/quote]
I’m a small-l libertarian and I’m voting for Obama as well. I’ve never voted for a democrat and I rarely vote republican. I generally vote for the libertarian or I write in a candidate. Normally, Obama’s economic positions wouldn’t appeal to me. But unfortunately we’ve gotten ourselves into a position where I think we need a person that “the masses” feel comfortable with and have some confidence in. Yeah, he’ll probably raise taxes and do plenty of other things that I won’t like too much, but… frankly, Bush and his band of republican morons have fucked things up so badly that the democrats actually deserve a shot to run things for a while. Even if it doesn’t work out. The people want to give Obama a shot. Let him have it. I doubt it will be the disaster the republicans think it will be – although it certainly won’t be the panacea that democrats are hoping for either. But, McCain? Please. I almost threw my shoe at the TV last night when he said, “We need to stop these house prices from falling and I think my economic program will do that.” Sorry, I just can’t vote for anyone that’s that clueless. At least Paul Volcker – the last real Fed Chairman that we’ve had – has Obama’s ear. That trumps anything that I’ve seen out of McCain.
[/quote]Sorry, no real point here. I just wanted to see how many quotes inside a quote in a row we could get. I say we go for the piggington record.
October 28, 2008 at 10:06 PM #294949Participant[quote=davelj][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]
LOL so you are going to vote for Castro Jr even though you are libertarian?? Socialism is the opposite of libertarianism. Something doesn’t add up with your post.
John
[/quote]
Sorry dude his views are not unique.
Also, its a bit hyperbolic to call him Castro Jr.
If you have a better pick of the 2, who would it be?
Cuz most people think McCain sucks.
[/quote]Pick between Castro and Obama? Probably Castro since at least he is honest about his views.
John[/quote]
I was saying between McCain and Obama but your assertion that Castro would be better than Obama really gives a clue as to how seriously you take yourself.[/quote]
No it shows what Obama really is and your’re too blind to see it.
John
[/quote]
I have lived under a liberal president and visited communist countries (Cuba, in fact). The assertion that being liberal is to the left of Communist is ignorant and not supportable.John you just say stuff that is so crazy that you can’t be taken seriously.[/quote]
I’m a small-l libertarian and I’m voting for Obama as well. I’ve never voted for a democrat and I rarely vote republican. I generally vote for the libertarian or I write in a candidate. Normally, Obama’s economic positions wouldn’t appeal to me. But unfortunately we’ve gotten ourselves into a position where I think we need a person that “the masses” feel comfortable with and have some confidence in. Yeah, he’ll probably raise taxes and do plenty of other things that I won’t like too much, but… frankly, Bush and his band of republican morons have fucked things up so badly that the democrats actually deserve a shot to run things for a while. Even if it doesn’t work out. The people want to give Obama a shot. Let him have it. I doubt it will be the disaster the republicans think it will be – although it certainly won’t be the panacea that democrats are hoping for either. But, McCain? Please. I almost threw my shoe at the TV last night when he said, “We need to stop these house prices from falling and I think my economic program will do that.” Sorry, I just can’t vote for anyone that’s that clueless. At least Paul Volcker – the last real Fed Chairman that we’ve had – has Obama’s ear. That trumps anything that I’ve seen out of McCain.
[/quote]Sorry, no real point here. I just wanted to see how many quotes inside a quote in a row we could get. I say we go for the piggington record.
October 28, 2008 at 10:47 PM #294572GoUSC
Participant[quote=sd_bear][quote=GoUSC]
My GF and I make combined around $250,000. We will be hit by Obama hard. Are we “rich” living here in San Diego? Certainly not.
[/quote]Yes, you are. If you make a combined 250,000 a year you are rich. I don’t care how long it took to get there or how hard you worked. You may not have a private jet, but you are still rich. If you honestly don’t think so then you live in a very tiny bubble.[/quote]
Ahh yes…like the small business owner who for 5+ years threw every dollar his business made, back into his business. Now he finally is able to take money out of the business to pay himself, after years of making nothing and good old Obama punishes him.
As it relates to me, imagine if both my GF and I had school loans for both our undergrad and graduate degrees. That would easily total $300,000 to $400,000. The payment on those school loans alone would tap a significant portion of take home. Add in housing costs, insurance costs for the family, schooling etc. etc. etc. Sorry but in San Diego $250k is not a definition of rich. Yes we are successful, yes we don’t have to worry how to pay our bills. But dammit I worked my ass off for it. I took a chance. I struggled making $1500/month when I got out of school. And I have a real fundamental problem with the government taking my money and giving it to someone else just because they are “less fortunate”. If I want to help someone less forutnate I will (and do) donate money to one of the many charitable associations out there.
October 28, 2008 at 10:47 PM #294905Participant[quote=sd_bear][quote=GoUSC]
My GF and I make combined around $250,000. We will be hit by Obama hard. Are we “rich” living here in San Diego? Certainly not.
[/quote]Yes, you are. If you make a combined 250,000 a year you are rich. I don’t care how long it took to get there or how hard you worked. You may not have a private jet, but you are still rich. If you honestly don’t think so then you live in a very tiny bubble.[/quote]
Ahh yes…like the small business owner who for 5+ years threw every dollar his business made, back into his business. Now he finally is able to take money out of the business to pay himself, after years of making nothing and good old Obama punishes him.
As it relates to me, imagine if both my GF and I had school loans for both our undergrad and graduate degrees. That would easily total $300,000 to $400,000. The payment on those school loans alone would tap a significant portion of take home. Add in housing costs, insurance costs for the family, schooling etc. etc. etc. Sorry but in San Diego $250k is not a definition of rich. Yes we are successful, yes we don’t have to worry how to pay our bills. But dammit I worked my ass off for it. I took a chance. I struggled making $1500/month when I got out of school. And I have a real fundamental problem with the government taking my money and giving it to someone else just because they are “less fortunate”. If I want to help someone less forutnate I will (and do) donate money to one of the many charitable associations out there.
October 28, 2008 at 10:47 PM #294928Participant[quote=sd_bear][quote=GoUSC]
My GF and I make combined around $250,000. We will be hit by Obama hard. Are we “rich” living here in San Diego? Certainly not.
[/quote]Yes, you are. If you make a combined 250,000 a year you are rich. I don’t care how long it took to get there or how hard you worked. You may not have a private jet, but you are still rich. If you honestly don’t think so then you live in a very tiny bubble.[/quote]
Ahh yes…like the small business owner who for 5+ years threw every dollar his business made, back into his business. Now he finally is able to take money out of the business to pay himself, after years of making nothing and good old Obama punishes him.
As it relates to me, imagine if both my GF and I had school loans for both our undergrad and graduate degrees. That would easily total $300,000 to $400,000. The payment on those school loans alone would tap a significant portion of take home. Add in housing costs, insurance costs for the family, schooling etc. etc. etc. Sorry but in San Diego $250k is not a definition of rich. Yes we are successful, yes we don’t have to worry how to pay our bills. But dammit I worked my ass off for it. I took a chance. I struggled making $1500/month when I got out of school. And I have a real fundamental problem with the government taking my money and giving it to someone else just because they are “less fortunate”. If I want to help someone less forutnate I will (and do) donate money to one of the many charitable associations out there.
October 28, 2008 at 10:47 PM #294941Participant[quote=sd_bear][quote=GoUSC]
My GF and I make combined around $250,000. We will be hit by Obama hard. Are we “rich” living here in San Diego? Certainly not.
[/quote]Yes, you are. If you make a combined 250,000 a year you are rich. I don’t care how long it took to get there or how hard you worked. You may not have a private jet, but you are still rich. If you honestly don’t think so then you live in a very tiny bubble.[/quote]
Ahh yes…like the small business owner who for 5+ years threw every dollar his business made, back into his business. Now he finally is able to take money out of the business to pay himself, after years of making nothing and good old Obama punishes him.
As it relates to me, imagine if both my GF and I had school loans for both our undergrad and graduate degrees. That would easily total $300,000 to $400,000. The payment on those school loans alone would tap a significant portion of take home. Add in housing costs, insurance costs for the family, schooling etc. etc. etc. Sorry but in San Diego $250k is not a definition of rich. Yes we are successful, yes we don’t have to worry how to pay our bills. But dammit I worked my ass off for it. I took a chance. I struggled making $1500/month when I got out of school. And I have a real fundamental problem with the government taking my money and giving it to someone else just because they are “less fortunate”. If I want to help someone less forutnate I will (and do) donate money to one of the many charitable associations out there.
October 28, 2008 at 10:47 PM #294979Participant[quote=sd_bear][quote=GoUSC]
My GF and I make combined around $250,000. We will be hit by Obama hard. Are we “rich” living here in San Diego? Certainly not.
[/quote]Yes, you are. If you make a combined 250,000 a year you are rich. I don’t care how long it took to get there or how hard you worked. You may not have a private jet, but you are still rich. If you honestly don’t think so then you live in a very tiny bubble.[/quote]
Ahh yes…like the small business owner who for 5+ years threw every dollar his business made, back into his business. Now he finally is able to take money out of the business to pay himself, after years of making nothing and good old Obama punishes him.
As it relates to me, imagine if both my GF and I had school loans for both our undergrad and graduate degrees. That would easily total $300,000 to $400,000. The payment on those school loans alone would tap a significant portion of take home. Add in housing costs, insurance costs for the family, schooling etc. etc. etc. Sorry but in San Diego $250k is not a definition of rich. Yes we are successful, yes we don’t have to worry how to pay our bills. But dammit I worked my ass off for it. I took a chance. I struggled making $1500/month when I got out of school. And I have a real fundamental problem with the government taking my money and giving it to someone else just because they are “less fortunate”. If I want to help someone less forutnate I will (and do) donate money to one of the many charitable associations out there.
October 29, 2008 at 1:10 AM #294597gandalf
ParticipantAmazing. We’re fighting a $TRILLION WAR completely OFF BOOKS, our economy is on the verge of a MELTDOWN, America has turned into the biggest DEBTOR NATION in the history of the planet in 30 short years, our infrastructure is CRUMBLING, our political system is having a PARTISAN seizure, kids growing up with a declining standard of living, and you irresponsible GOP FUCKERS are complaining about MARGINAL CHANGES to the tax code? What the fuck is wrong with you.
It’s not socialism. WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS and LARGE CORPORATIONS with ACCESS to exclusions, shelters and loopholes PAY LESS TAX than average people. They often pay ZERO tax. The present tax system is highly REGRESSIVE and has contributed to the greatest shift in wealth redistribution UPWARDS in the history of the country.
How is that good for the economy? Our society? Our government? How is that fair? It’s a simple question for all you closet socialists on the right redistributing wealth upwards to BILLIONAIRES. Liars in the GOP really need to STFU with the socialism crap.
Oh yeah, and what’s the difference between socialism and redistributing profits from Alaskan oil revenues to the people of Alaska? Don’t hear anybody complaining about that one. Sure looks to me like Palin is a fucking SOCIALIST. You people are unbelievable. Liars to the core.
October 29, 2008 at 1:10 AM #294930ParticipantAmazing. We’re fighting a $TRILLION WAR completely OFF BOOKS, our economy is on the verge of a MELTDOWN, America has turned into the biggest DEBTOR NATION in the history of the planet in 30 short years, our infrastructure is CRUMBLING, our political system is having a PARTISAN seizure, kids growing up with a declining standard of living, and you irresponsible GOP FUCKERS are complaining about MARGINAL CHANGES to the tax code? What the fuck is wrong with you.
It’s not socialism. WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS and LARGE CORPORATIONS with ACCESS to exclusions, shelters and loopholes PAY LESS TAX than average people. They often pay ZERO tax. The present tax system is highly REGRESSIVE and has contributed to the greatest shift in wealth redistribution UPWARDS in the history of the country.
How is that good for the economy? Our society? Our government? How is that fair? It’s a simple question for all you closet socialists on the right redistributing wealth upwards to BILLIONAIRES. Liars in the GOP really need to STFU with the socialism crap.
Oh yeah, and what’s the difference between socialism and redistributing profits from Alaskan oil revenues to the people of Alaska? Don’t hear anybody complaining about that one. Sure looks to me like Palin is a fucking SOCIALIST. You people are unbelievable. Liars to the core.
October 29, 2008 at 1:10 AM #294953ParticipantAmazing. We’re fighting a $TRILLION WAR completely OFF BOOKS, our economy is on the verge of a MELTDOWN, America has turned into the biggest DEBTOR NATION in the history of the planet in 30 short years, our infrastructure is CRUMBLING, our political system is having a PARTISAN seizure, kids growing up with a declining standard of living, and you irresponsible GOP FUCKERS are complaining about MARGINAL CHANGES to the tax code? What the fuck is wrong with you.
It’s not socialism. WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS and LARGE CORPORATIONS with ACCESS to exclusions, shelters and loopholes PAY LESS TAX than average people. They often pay ZERO tax. The present tax system is highly REGRESSIVE and has contributed to the greatest shift in wealth redistribution UPWARDS in the history of the country.
How is that good for the economy? Our society? Our government? How is that fair? It’s a simple question for all you closet socialists on the right redistributing wealth upwards to BILLIONAIRES. Liars in the GOP really need to STFU with the socialism crap.
Oh yeah, and what’s the difference between socialism and redistributing profits from Alaskan oil revenues to the people of Alaska? Don’t hear anybody complaining about that one. Sure looks to me like Palin is a fucking SOCIALIST. You people are unbelievable. Liars to the core.
October 29, 2008 at 1:10 AM #294966ParticipantAmazing. We’re fighting a $TRILLION WAR completely OFF BOOKS, our economy is on the verge of a MELTDOWN, America has turned into the biggest DEBTOR NATION in the history of the planet in 30 short years, our infrastructure is CRUMBLING, our political system is having a PARTISAN seizure, kids growing up with a declining standard of living, and you irresponsible GOP FUCKERS are complaining about MARGINAL CHANGES to the tax code? What the fuck is wrong with you.
It’s not socialism. WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS and LARGE CORPORATIONS with ACCESS to exclusions, shelters and loopholes PAY LESS TAX than average people. They often pay ZERO tax. The present tax system is highly REGRESSIVE and has contributed to the greatest shift in wealth redistribution UPWARDS in the history of the country.
How is that good for the economy? Our society? Our government? How is that fair? It’s a simple question for all you closet socialists on the right redistributing wealth upwards to BILLIONAIRES. Liars in the GOP really need to STFU with the socialism crap.
Oh yeah, and what’s the difference between socialism and redistributing profits from Alaskan oil revenues to the people of Alaska? Don’t hear anybody complaining about that one. Sure looks to me like Palin is a fucking SOCIALIST. You people are unbelievable. Liars to the core.
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