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April 1, 2015 at 4:38 AM #784349April 1, 2015 at 4:43 AM #784350
scaredyclassic
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I know that vintage ice cream parlor, in a corner store?
Tell your sons to get into UPenn. It’s on the other side of the other river, but it’s kinda cool over there also; and cheaper.I think that’s the kind of environment where millenials want to live. With farmers markets on weekends. Alcohol can only be bought at bars or state stores. Costco doesn’t even sell booze.[/quote]
If you send your kids away they might not come back. Like farmers market stay local for best produce.
April 1, 2015 at 8:29 PM #784367spdrun
ParticipantIf they prefer it there vs California, why restrict them?
April 1, 2015 at 11:08 PM #784370CA renter
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=FlyerInHi][quote=livinincali]Philly for me was a visit once kind of place. It was ok it just feels run down in most parts of the city.[/quote]
Don’t knock philly too much. The old city area and Washington square are one of the best stories of urban renewal in the last few decades. You could have bought for next to nothing in the 80s and be rich today. Better than downtown San Diego.[/quote]
oldcity totally hipster cool. Oldest kid willing to live here.
we are staying in a really cool condo near Christmas church. So many bars! Vintage ice cream parlor open till midnight. Fun. But u can’t buy liquor in supermarkets[/quote]
We’re in New Jersey/New York and were tripping out on the alcohol thing, too. Just wanted a bottle of wine, but no. They won’t even sell them after 10:00 p.m. in the liquor stores.
The architecture and history on the east coast is amazing. Something we sorely lack in California. We are loving the public transportation, too. Haven’t touched a car except once to get the big stuff from Target because we’ve scheduled an extended trip and are staying in a condo where we have to bring in all of our own cleaning supplies, toilet paper, etc. (they did leave a “starter kit” for us here)
We will always choose a condo over a hotel. It’s a no-brainer if you’re traveling with a family. It’s insane to pay for 2-3 meals out every day, as you’d have to do in a hotel. That’s a quick and easy way to go broke. And condos are usually roomier (and cheaper!) than what one can find in a hotel.
Funny thing happened to us tonight: Nick Lachey (or someone who looks *exactly* like him and lives in an expensive building) gave us directions around a big construction zone tonight! He had just hopped out of a cab and saw us trying to figure out how to get around the blocked streets and offered to help us out. Very cool.
Lots of nice people here. Even nicer than Californians in some ways. Maybe it’s because people are forced together here, whereas they are able to live very remote, isolated lives on the west coast with all the car driving and more spread-out living arrangements. As a west-coaster, I’d always been a bit biased against east coasters because they’ve always seemed so much harsher than Californians, but we’ve been very pleasantly surprised by how helpful and friendly everyone is out here.
April 1, 2015 at 11:26 PM #784373ParticipantI think package stores (wine + liquor) have to close by midnight in NYC. Technically, the 10 pm rule in NJ is only for hard liquor. There are stores that sell beer and wine later, subject to local ordinance. Essentially, everything is local in NJ. Municipalities have a lot more power than in CA.
April 1, 2015 at 11:28 PM #784374bearishgurl
ParticipantI’m glad you’re enjoying your visit to the east coast, CAR. YES, it IS quite different than the west coast (culture-shock be damned). I’ve made the Baltimore/DC trek a few times in my life but have never actually traveled to NYC/NJ. Someday I will, with a more “knowledgeable” Gen Y kid in tow …
April 1, 2015 at 11:31 PM #784375Participant[quote=spdrun]I think package stores (wine + liquor) have to close by midnight in NYC. Technically, the 10 pm rule in NJ is only for hard liquor. There are stores that sell beer and wine later, subject to local ordinance. Essentially, everything is local in NJ. Municipalities have a lot more power than in CA.[/quote]
Thank you for your post, spdrun. It clarifies things … exponentially.
April 1, 2015 at 11:45 PM #784377Participant[quote=bearishgurl]I’m glad you’re enjoying your visit to the east coast, CAR. YES, it IS quite different than the west coast (culture-shock be damned). I’ve made the Baltimore/DC trek a few times in my life but have never actually traveled to NYC/NJ. Someday I will, with a more “knowledgeable” Gen Y kid in tow …[/quote]
Yes, definitely try to make it here with your kid(s) if you can. Everything feels “richer” here…and I’m not just talking about money. Over 800 languages are spoken in New York! Lots of energy and stuff going on. We went to the same church where George Washington used to worship, and it’s still a functioning church and community meeting place. It’s like they want people to use it. In California, it would be all roped off like a museum with small tours going through it at certain hours.
And the architecture!!! No ugly, ticky-tacky stucco boxes like we have in CA (at least, not in the areas we’ve travelled). Reminds me of Europe in many ways. I am in love!
April 2, 2015 at 11:34 AM #784383FlyerInHi
GuestI don’t love NJ as a whole.
Without NYC, NJ is nothing. It’s not an attractive state (despite being the garden state). Plus there’re lots of low class people there.
So Cal is ticky tacky, but it’s clean in comparison.
PA is the same a NJ, but there is Philadelphia and Pittsburg (example of industrial belt revival). NJ doesn’t have any large city of its own.
April 2, 2015 at 1:51 PM #784390Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I don’t love NJ as a whole.
Without NYC, NJ is nothing. It’s not an attractive state (despite being the garden state). Plus there’re lots of low class people there…. [/quote]
Lol …. this is coming from a native San Diegan? who currently resides in Las Vegas, NV …. by choice.
Oka-a-a-ay.
April 2, 2015 at 2:08 PM #784393GuestBG, compare Atlantic City to Vegas.
Compare California Beaches to the Jersey Shore.
Compare the lower tier cites in CA (like San Bernardino) to the same in Jersey.The riff-raffs are all over in Jersey. Vegetation is overgrown, trash everywhere. Potholes… Maybe the sucky weather contributes to “the Jersey look”. But Jersey is not attractive.
I reside in Vegas for tax reasons and for investment reasons. Cap rates are better than CA. Thankfully, I can come and go anytime I want. I’m not bound to Vegas like all the miserable ex-Californians (lots of them in Vegas).
April 2, 2015 at 3:01 PM #784397Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]BG, compare Atlantic City to Vegas.
Compare California Beaches to the Jersey Shore.
Compare the lower tier cites in CA (like San Bernardo) to the same in Jersey.The riff-raffs are all over in Jersey. Vegetation is overgrown, trash everywhere. Potholes… Maybe the sucky weather contributes to “the Jersey look”. But Jersey is not attractive.
I reside in Vegas for tax reasons and for investment reasons. Cap rates are better than CA. Thankfully, I can come and go anytime I want. I’m not bound to Vegas like all the miserable ex-Californians (lots of them in Vegas).[/quote]
Based upon your posts, I know you’re relatively mobile, brian. I’ve never been to NJ and I don’t watch TV … at all. I stopped watching it prior to when all these reality shows hit the airwaves (my kids watched them, though). So I haven’t seen any of that “Jersey Shore” stuff.
The cigarette smoke everywhere in Vegas alone would kill me off, quick. If I get out of my car at all there, it is to pull up into a gas bay of a service stn (where smoking is not allowed), put my credit card in, pump gas and promptly leave. My past experience inside truck stops and casinos in LV and also walking on the strip and dtn is the memory of cigarette and cigar smoke everywhere and people sitting on stools for hours upon hours smoking, drinking and playing slots at all hours of the day and night. This looks to be a pretty dejected existence for the downtrodden. The billboards in LV almost everywhere (banned in almost all CA coastal cities except for a very few fwy exits) are garish and disgusting looking as are the ticky-tacky flickering marquees on everything from the corner mom-and-pop store to the biggest “grandest” casinos in the country.
You also stated here that SoCal is “clean” in comparison to NJ and PA. Uhh, in my opinion, dtn SD is embarassing to me since it is touted as “America’s Finest City.” Nearly all zip codes in the City of SD (incl dtn 92101) are not only full of potholes but many of its residential streets are actually crumbling. Even in $1M++ neighborhoods! Some streets have sunk so low in dtn SD that a pedestrian walking off a curb could have to step down up to 18″ in some corners to cross the street. The storm drains have sunk perilously and I have sprained my ankle TWICE walking on sidewalks in dtn SD which were lifted due to tree roots (one patched with crumbling asphalt). Some sidewalk tree grates are full of holes and it is easy to get the heel of your dress shoe stuck in them, trip and fall and at the very least, break your shoe. If that’s all that happens, you’re lucky. The 90+ yo sidewalks in front of some of the biggest tourist draws and landmarks in dtn SD have so much gum stuck on them, you can hardly see the concrete. Many CA cities (and SD, in particular) have so much deferred maintenance to their infrastructure that in SD, the City Street Division just seems to move from one highest-priority issue to another (sinkholes/burst pipes resulting in street closure and sites which are currently the subject of City claims/injury lawsuits). That is about all they can do.
In addition, the freeways running through parts of LA, Orange, RIV and SB counties are severely “overtrucked” with bumpy, noisy pavement and road signs so full of soot that a motorist can’t even read them. There’s no way CalTRANS can keep up with it all! A lot of these SoCal areas with sh!tty, severely crowded freeways aren’t cheap to live in and so again, these road conditions are embarrassing for a state which presumably has the biggest budget in the nation! The “general appearance” of SoCal (to a visitor) undoubtedly leaves something to be desired, imo.
The infrastructure in Northern Cali is all fine. SF is ALWAYS a “work in progress” seven days per week … somewhere. The new bay bridge is magnificent! Even Smokestacked and Grain Elevatored Stockton has been significantly cleaned up over the past decade.
Yes, Nevada does have good roads and clean, new sidewalks (in most areas) but the general populace who reside there leave a lot to be desired, imho. Especially the ingrates who chose to “retire” there (for all I know, they could have lived their whole lives there). I couldn’t imagine a daily existence like the one they have. Never ever. Not in a million years. The typical “lifestyle” of LV residents has to be the most unhealthy lifestyle on the planet. And that’s without even taking into account the oppressive heat there 8+ months per year!
No thanks. You can have it, brian.
April 2, 2015 at 4:13 PM #784405ParticipantFlyerInHi:
1. vegetation on the East Coast grows faster, so is harder to keep trimmed.
2. no HOAs in most cities in NJ in SFR areas. This is a good thing. I’d rather trade a bit more dirt for spontaneity and houses painted pretty non-HOA-approved colors.
3. “riff-raff” makes things interesting. I don’t want to be surrounded by exact clones of myself. Boring.April 2, 2015 at 10:56 PM #784421Participant[quote=spdrun]FlyerInHi:
1. vegetation on the East Coast grows faster, so is harder to keep trimmed.
2. no HOAs in most cities in NJ in SFR areas. This is a good thing. I’d rather trade a bit more dirt for spontaneity and houses painted pretty non-HOA-approved colors.
3. “riff-raff” makes things interesting. I don’t want to be surrounded by exact clones of myself. Boring.[/quote]Amen to that! 🙂
April 3, 2015 at 1:36 PM #784436Guest[quote=bearishgurl]
Yes, Nevada does have good roads and clean, new sidewalks (in most areas) but the general populace who reside there leave a lot to be desired, imho. Especially the ingrates who chose to “retire” there (for all I know, they could have lived their whole lives there). I couldn’t imagine a daily existence like the one they have. Never ever. Not in a million years. The typical “lifestyle” of LV residents has to be the most unhealthy lifestyle on the planet. And that’s without even taking into account the oppressive heat there 8+ months per year!
No thanks. You can have it, brian.[/quote]
BG, you have old fashioned views of things. The world is changing fast, you need to adapt.
The lifestyle in Vegas is very nice in many ways. You have access to a lot of world class stuff not available in SD. I can understand why people would retire there and spend the majority of the year. Nothing unhealthy about it.
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