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July 9, 2015 at 1:32 PM #787844July 9, 2015 at 1:37 PM #787845
FlyerInHi
GuestThat would be worse. It would be a never ending nightmare. Lol
July 9, 2015 at 1:48 PM #787846bearishgurl
ParticipantWell, I’ve posted it here many times before … and also to brian directly … having neighbors who adhere to the doctrine of “quiet enjoyment” for all is very important to me. Hence, I would NEVER live in an apt or condo unless it was just a short-term (day/week/month) rental while I was in the process of moving long distance. I HATED living in an apt when I was 17-22 years old and back then, I/we always rented a very spacious 2/1 or 2/2 apt or condo! Even back then, I COULDN’T STAND sharing walls (or floors/ceilings) and noises from neighboring units completely stressed me out! I can’t even stand SFRs built too close together with little/no land buffer between them (built on zero-lot lines).
Any block which had a home I was considering purchasing for a residence was personally vetted by me several days PRIOR to making an offer … at all hours of the day and night and doing staged rush-hour runs to work. I absolutely could not and would not be able to tolerate a block full of teenagers with boom boxes in their trunks, a block full of toys, wagons, tricycles, water cups, trash, etc (and chalk) left on sidewalks for days at a time. And I spent many, many years raising kids myself and I still wouldn’t choose a block full of kids/teens … even back then! Nor would I choose to purchase a home on a block on a busy street, under a flight path or next to a freeway (a block suffering from “economic obsolescence). I won’t even live on a block where I can hear constant elementary school bells or daily noises from recess, etc. I enjoy living amongst mature landscaping and get to hear birds from sunup to sundown.
I need a dog door installed on the back door and a big backyard for my dog to run in and my next home will be a minimum of 35 feet from any adjoining neighbor’s homes (would prefer 50-100 feet). I’d take a block full of “geriatrics” any day over living amongst the multiple-stroller messy, over-flowing garage, noisy family blocks because it offers me the continual “quiet enjoyment” of my home that I require. And never, ever would I live in a condo (buy or rent). I HATE the condo lifestyle and the fact that an “owner” owns a “fractional interest” and not any real land they can call their own (except PUDs).
brian, I concur with flu, here. However, I feel you should just cut your losses and move as the “fight” you are describing would be more aggravation than it’s worth in my book. Life is short! You stated you fully remodeled your place so I feel you can just rent it out or better yet, sell it and buy a SFR in LV. As you know, SFRs really don’t cost that much more than condos in LV …. and most of them have rocks or desert landscaping so your water bill isn’t going to go through the roof (like it would in SD). Give this some thought. In LV, condos are so cheap that they’re always going to attract the low-income “lowlife” families, etc as tenants or buyers. There’s isn’t anything you can do to change this phenomenon.
[quote=spdrun]FlyerInHI – disagree that living in an apartment is pathetic. It makes things easier, especially if you’re a single parent. Taking care of a house takes time, and we only have a certain number of hours in a day.[/quote]
spd, a condo (esp one which has another unit above or below it) is vastly inferior to a SFR for raising children. If the childrens’ single parents are BOTH raising them (as is usually the case in CA), then each parent has a percentage of time where the children live with the other parent (usually 50%). Single parents actually have more time than a married parent to mow, trim, paint, and otherwise maintain their homes than does a married parent as their responsibility is only to themselves when the children are living with their other parent.
I realize that households with children don’t really have a choice in the matter in Manhattan, NYC, where you reside.
July 9, 2015 at 1:59 PM #787847spdrun
ParticipantWhy the purple dancing fork would you want to waste time mowing and painting when there are better things to do with your life? A house is nothing but a noose around the owner’s neck unless it’s bringing income. I understand having a veggie and flower garden, perhaps on a patio, but mowing a lawn is just dull.
BTW – it’s only inferior in an area where kids can’t walk to school, to the park, etc by themselves. Where I grew up, kids do it all the time and no one gives them a second glance.
As far as annoying the neighbors, you ultimately have to be willing to tell the neighbors to shut up and piss off.
July 9, 2015 at 2:05 PM #787848Participantbrian, here’s a large newer-construction PUD or zero-lot-line home (with no shared walls), asking $229K and with only $60 per month HOA dues!
I haven’t studied the location or vetted the HOA, but I think this listing is likely to your taste.
As long as the (crowded) sidewalk wasn’t full of chalk, tricycles and broken wagons and there weren’t non-running vehicles sitting in driveways, I would give something like this some thought, brian. You can still live relatively cheaply in LV and also have much more privacy than a “pure” condo (until such time as you will move back to CA).
July 9, 2015 at 2:10 PM #787849GuestA vegetable garden in the patio or balcony is not acceptable. HOA is very clear that pots must have saucers to catch drainage water. Homeowners who cause damage to the common areas have to pay for repairs. Moisture is very bad for buildings.
July 9, 2015 at 2:12 PM #787850CoronitaParticipantNothing like BG to always say “I told you so”…..
BTW you still owe me $25…
July 9, 2015 at 2:21 PM #787851Participantbrian, whoever purchased that PUD in 2008 for $125K did NOTHING with it and made little to no payments after the first couple of years of ownership. It needs minor cosmetic work which you can do yourself! Without examining the public record, it appears to me to be some sort of a pending foreclosure (subprime, 2nd TD holder or HELOC holder).
If you could scare up $150K – $200K in cash, this might be a little project where you could make $100K or more by selling after a 2-3 yr period of ownership.
And it’s four blocks off the freeway and just a hop and a skip (5 mins?) from the airport! Just sayin …
I see the listing is 397 days old, which smacks of a property which was an “attempted SS,” but likely did not show well with all the deadbeat “owner’s” stuff in it. Why don’t you try to find out what the situation is?
Good L@rd, LV has grown a LOT since my relatives moved out of there in ’94. Shocking …..
July 9, 2015 at 2:24 PM #787852ParticipantFlyerInHI – I don’t have any such restrictions. It likely depends on the HOA. Pick one that’s as loose as possible, and either become board president, or make sure the president is mildly afraid of you.
July 9, 2015 at 2:43 PM #787853GuestBG, not a bad area. But I like condo living on the strip. The suburbs is not my style. I did the suburbs before.
In Vegas it’s nicer to have underground parking and cool hallways to isolate yourself from the heat.
By the way, a lot of “fake” listings in Vegas. Good deals go very quick, within days.
July 9, 2015 at 4:53 PM #787855Hobie
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But trust be, buy a chinese opera CD and play that every morning around 5:30am….. I’m sure 95% of the population can’t stand it…[/quote]And, start cooking with curry and windows open.
July 9, 2015 at 5:02 PM #787856Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]BG, not a bad area. But I like condo living on the strip. The suburbs is not my style. I did the suburbs before.
In Vegas it’s nicer to have underground parking and cool hallways to isolate yourself from the heat.
By the way, a lot of “fake” listings in Vegas. Good deals go very quick, within days.[/quote]
Whatever you say, brian. I don’t think of this “Enterprise” area as a “suburb,” at least not 4-5 blocks from I-15, as is the subject. It’s just north of the big rock marking the Henderson cutoff at Sloan. There ARE now large casino complexes that far south and the listing is probably closer to the airport (and easier to get to it) than from where you live!
If it were me and I had to live in the hot pesthole that is LV, I would say the PUD I linked is too cozy with the neighbors for my taste, I detest stairs and it doesn’t have a “real” driveway but it has a fairly large private patio for entertaining, a 2-car private garage (a biggie) and a LOT of interior space, compared to the type of unit you are in. If I had to pick one of the two to reside in, I’d pick the PUD (with no shared walls, ceilings or floors) and low HOA dues. But that’s just me. I wouldn’t like walking out of my building onto the strip to immediately be bombarded with cigarette and cigar smoke.
Bearing in mind that I haven’t been off the freeway too much in LV in recent years, to me, LV “suburbs” would be Henderson, North LV, Boulder City, “Summerlin” and possibly Nellis AFB and surrounds.
The other named areas (and even the more distant “Summerlin”) seem as if they are just neighborhoods within the city (as Hillcrest and North Park are to SD).
I am surprised at how cheap it still is there for what you get and the sheer amount of newer construction available in LV. I don’t ever look at online RE listings in NV or AZ (too hot for me).
Thanks for sharing your dilemma, brian!
July 10, 2015 at 10:30 PM #787883La Jolla Renter
ParticipantI rented a townhouse at the beach in La Jolla 10 years back and was at my wits end over some loud 24/7 party animals that rented across the street… I’m talking all night and still going at it when I left for work in the morning.
One of the neighbors got the landlords home phone number and passed it out. I called it in the middle of the night and told the landlord I wanted them to have a shitty nights sleep like the rest of the neighborhood. They stopped picking up after a couple of nights, but the renters were gone in less than 30 days.
Might be a good strategy to get the landlord to put some soundproofing in the floor.
July 11, 2015 at 12:04 AM #787885GuestI love the idea of having the neighbors call in the middle is the night to complain.
I don’t have the landlord’s direct phone number. But I can call his office and get the call transferred. I called at 10:30pm and he was upset about being disturbed.
Unfortunately/fortunately, the running and stomping is only bothering me. However, my next door neighbor can hear the loud music when the people upstairs play it. But they live in Canada and only come sometimes. I will ask them to write a letter to the landlord.
I also know a board member. The HOA assured me that the new security service will carefully log all complains. I just need to document on a log and complain, complain, complain; keep all the documentation. Then sue the landlord if nothing is done.
I’ve had it with people who are low-class. I used to defend renters, especially during the real estate bubble; but renters definitely have a reputation for a reason.
July 11, 2015 at 8:39 AM #787887GuestFlu, I talked to my neighbors who face the pool. Told them to broadcast Chinese opera from their balconies whenever someone bring out a loud music box which is not allowed by the pool. Can you suggest the most annoying one to download in mp3? Lol
It’s amazing how the noise reverberates in the pool area. Never face the pool.
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