OT: Sad day for America

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[quote=jstoesz]
As a society we need to look past what “caused” someone to do something. Bad people do bad things, because they are bad people. They could become good people, but they choose to be bad. We should not care if some serial rapist was molested as a child. Or why some wife beaters actions are not so bad because, after all, his dad beat him too. Move past the vitriol rhetoric and place the blame solely and absolutely on the bad person…Stop looking for other people to ensnare who have nothing to do with it.
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Do you think that Muslim terrorists are not motivated by their imams?

Are the imams who preach jihad at fault at all?

[jstoesz]

Let me get this straight…your are making a link between cult leaders (extremist imams) and conservative talk chuckle heads? Seriously?

[jstoesz]

Let me get this straight…your are making a link between cult leaders (extremist imams) and conservative talk chuckle heads? Seriously?

[jstoesz]

Let me get this straight…your are making a link between cult leaders (extremist imams) and conservative talk chuckle heads? Seriously?

[jstoesz]

Let me get this straight…your are making a link between cult leaders (extremist imams) and conservative talk chuckle heads? Seriously?

[jstoesz]

Let me get this straight…your are making a link between cult leaders (extremist imams) and conservative talk chuckle heads? Seriously?

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
lol… you have to admit how Ironic it is that the tea party has adopted that sort of speak. I went to the Glenn Beck rally and, in an Orwellian fashion, he conflated the civil rights movement with the plight of the middle class white people today under the oppressive Obama regime. Ironically, he picked MLK day to do it. I don’t think that was a mistake .[/quote]

The Tea Party adherents marching in rallies are crazies who conflate so many thing illogically.

I still can’t get over that they believe that the estate tax kills wholesome family farms. Those Tea Partiers will never pay a penny in estate taxes because they will never accumulate large enough estates.

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
lol… you have to admit how Ironic it is that the tea party has adopted that sort of speak. I went to the Glenn Beck rally and, in an Orwellian fashion, he conflated the civil rights movement with the plight of the middle class white people today under the oppressive Obama regime. Ironically, he picked MLK day to do it. I don’t think that was a mistake .[/quote]

The Tea Party adherents marching in rallies are crazies who conflate so many thing illogically.

I still can’t get over that they believe that the estate tax kills wholesome family farms. Those Tea Partiers will never pay a penny in estate taxes because they will never accumulate large enough estates.

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
lol… you have to admit how Ironic it is that the tea party has adopted that sort of speak. I went to the Glenn Beck rally and, in an Orwellian fashion, he conflated the civil rights movement with the plight of the middle class white people today under the oppressive Obama regime. Ironically, he picked MLK day to do it. I don’t think that was a mistake .[/quote]

The Tea Party adherents marching in rallies are crazies who conflate so many thing illogically.

I still can’t get over that they believe that the estate tax kills wholesome family farms. Those Tea Partiers will never pay a penny in estate taxes because they will never accumulate large enough estates.

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
lol… you have to admit how Ironic it is that the tea party has adopted that sort of speak. I went to the Glenn Beck rally and, in an Orwellian fashion, he conflated the civil rights movement with the plight of the middle class white people today under the oppressive Obama regime. Ironically, he picked MLK day to do it. I don’t think that was a mistake .[/quote]

The Tea Party adherents marching in rallies are crazies who conflate so many thing illogically.

I still can’t get over that they believe that the estate tax kills wholesome family farms. Those Tea Partiers will never pay a penny in estate taxes because they will never accumulate large enough estates.

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
lol… you have to admit how Ironic it is that the tea party has adopted that sort of speak. I went to the Glenn Beck rally and, in an Orwellian fashion, he conflated the civil rights movement with the plight of the middle class white people today under the oppressive Obama regime. Ironically, he picked MLK day to do it. I don’t think that was a mistake .[/quote]

The Tea Party adherents marching in rallies are crazies who conflate so many thing illogically.

I still can’t get over that they believe that the estate tax kills wholesome family farms. Those Tea Partiers will never pay a penny in estate taxes because they will never accumulate large enough estates.

[jstoesz]

I think you miss the point with the estate tax. The Tea Party’s ethic is anti-class warfare. It is getting back to a government that administers justice blindly, getting away from the crony capitalist model of both parties protecting their favored class/business. The estate tax to tea partiers feels like an unjust confiscatory policy, and their disagreement has nothing to do with who benefits from it. I think most people (tea partiers included) would say rich people are too rich…tea partiers and liberals diverge on what to do (or not do) about that…

[jstoesz]

I think you miss the point with the estate tax. The Tea Party’s ethic is anti-class warfare. It is getting back to a government that administers justice blindly, getting away from the crony capitalist model of both parties protecting their favored class/business. The estate tax to tea partiers feels like an unjust confiscatory policy, and their disagreement has nothing to do with who benefits from it. I think most people (tea partiers included) would say rich people are too rich…tea partiers and liberals diverge on what to do (or not do) about that…

[jstoesz]

I think you miss the point with the estate tax. The Tea Party’s ethic is anti-class warfare. It is getting back to a government that administers justice blindly, getting away from the crony capitalist model of both parties protecting their favored class/business. The estate tax to tea partiers feels like an unjust confiscatory policy, and their disagreement has nothing to do with who benefits from it. I think most people (tea partiers included) would say rich people are too rich…tea partiers and liberals diverge on what to do (or not do) about that…

[jstoesz]

I think you miss the point with the estate tax. The Tea Party’s ethic is anti-class warfare. It is getting back to a government that administers justice blindly, getting away from the crony capitalist model of both parties protecting their favored class/business. The estate tax to tea partiers feels like an unjust confiscatory policy, and their disagreement has nothing to do with who benefits from it. I think most people (tea partiers included) would say rich people are too rich…tea partiers and liberals diverge on what to do (or not do) about that…

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