OT: Sad day for America

[briansd1]

American neo-nazis and white supremacists are right wingers. It’s false to claim otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke

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[quote=briansd1]American neo-nazis and white supremacists are right wingers. It’s false to claim otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke%5B/quote%5D
You need to do a better job of reading through sources:

Duke first ran for the Louisiana State Senate as a Democrat from a Baton Rouge district in 1975. In 1979, he ran as a Democrat for the 10th District Senate seat and finished second in a three-candidate race with 9,897 votes (26 percent).

In 1988, Duke ran initially in the Democratic presidential primaries.

He then changes party affiliation (but was first a Democrat)

In December 1988, Duke changed his political affiliation from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.

The Republican party/US President(at that time) Bush denounces Duke as Racist.

I suspect you looked at the first sentence of the Wiki on Duke and ran with that ignoring the Nazi party history and foundations as well as those precepts.

Duke is trying to ride the ‘push back’ from conservatives on many of the social programs and the feeling from some conservatives that these social programs have gone too far. He is definitely a chameleon..

In 1990 syndicated columnist Jack Anderson argued Duke has done “everything to make himself look better to the voters, including plastic surgery”.

to which Duke had countered:

Duke explained in My Awakening that he had had reconstructive surgery on his nose, which had been broken many times.

Remember the earlier statements on Fascism?

Though normally described as being on the far right, there is a scholarly consensus that fascism was also influenced by the left, but with a focus on solutions from the right. – from Wiki.

[ucodegen]

[quote=briansd1]American neo-nazis and white supremacists are right wingers. It’s false to claim otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke%5B/quote%5D
You need to do a better job of reading through sources:

Duke first ran for the Louisiana State Senate as a Democrat from a Baton Rouge district in 1975. In 1979, he ran as a Democrat for the 10th District Senate seat and finished second in a three-candidate race with 9,897 votes (26 percent).

In 1988, Duke ran initially in the Democratic presidential primaries.

He then changes party affiliation (but was first a Democrat)

In December 1988, Duke changed his political affiliation from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.

The Republican party/US President(at that time) Bush denounces Duke as Racist.

I suspect you looked at the first sentence of the Wiki on Duke and ran with that ignoring the Nazi party history and foundations as well as those precepts.

Duke is trying to ride the ‘push back’ from conservatives on many of the social programs and the feeling from some conservatives that these social programs have gone too far. He is definitely a chameleon..

In 1990 syndicated columnist Jack Anderson argued Duke has done “everything to make himself look better to the voters, including plastic surgery”.

to which Duke had countered:

Duke explained in My Awakening that he had had reconstructive surgery on his nose, which had been broken many times.

Remember the earlier statements on Fascism?

Though normally described as being on the far right, there is a scholarly consensus that fascism was also influenced by the left, but with a focus on solutions from the right. – from Wiki.

[ucodegen]

[quote=briansd1]American neo-nazis and white supremacists are right wingers. It’s false to claim otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke%5B/quote%5D
You need to do a better job of reading through sources:

Duke first ran for the Louisiana State Senate as a Democrat from a Baton Rouge district in 1975. In 1979, he ran as a Democrat for the 10th District Senate seat and finished second in a three-candidate race with 9,897 votes (26 percent).

In 1988, Duke ran initially in the Democratic presidential primaries.

He then changes party affiliation (but was first a Democrat)

In December 1988, Duke changed his political affiliation from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.

The Republican party/US President(at that time) Bush denounces Duke as Racist.

I suspect you looked at the first sentence of the Wiki on Duke and ran with that ignoring the Nazi party history and foundations as well as those precepts.

Duke is trying to ride the ‘push back’ from conservatives on many of the social programs and the feeling from some conservatives that these social programs have gone too far. He is definitely a chameleon..

In 1990 syndicated columnist Jack Anderson argued Duke has done “everything to make himself look better to the voters, including plastic surgery”.

to which Duke had countered:

Duke explained in My Awakening that he had had reconstructive surgery on his nose, which had been broken many times.

Remember the earlier statements on Fascism?

Though normally described as being on the far right, there is a scholarly consensus that fascism was also influenced by the left, but with a focus on solutions from the right. – from Wiki.

[ucodegen]

[quote=briansd1]American neo-nazis and white supremacists are right wingers. It’s false to claim otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke%5B/quote%5D
You need to do a better job of reading through sources:

Duke first ran for the Louisiana State Senate as a Democrat from a Baton Rouge district in 1975. In 1979, he ran as a Democrat for the 10th District Senate seat and finished second in a three-candidate race with 9,897 votes (26 percent).

In 1988, Duke ran initially in the Democratic presidential primaries.

He then changes party affiliation (but was first a Democrat)

In December 1988, Duke changed his political affiliation from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.

The Republican party/US President(at that time) Bush denounces Duke as Racist.

I suspect you looked at the first sentence of the Wiki on Duke and ran with that ignoring the Nazi party history and foundations as well as those precepts.

Duke is trying to ride the ‘push back’ from conservatives on many of the social programs and the feeling from some conservatives that these social programs have gone too far. He is definitely a chameleon..

In 1990 syndicated columnist Jack Anderson argued Duke has done “everything to make himself look better to the voters, including plastic surgery”.

to which Duke had countered:

Duke explained in My Awakening that he had had reconstructive surgery on his nose, which had been broken many times.

Remember the earlier statements on Fascism?

Though normally described as being on the far right, there is a scholarly consensus that fascism was also influenced by the left, but with a focus on solutions from the right. – from Wiki.

[ucodegen]

[quote=briansd1]American neo-nazis and white supremacists are right wingers. It’s false to claim otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke%5B/quote%5D
You need to do a better job of reading through sources:

Duke first ran for the Louisiana State Senate as a Democrat from a Baton Rouge district in 1975. In 1979, he ran as a Democrat for the 10th District Senate seat and finished second in a three-candidate race with 9,897 votes (26 percent).

In 1988, Duke ran initially in the Democratic presidential primaries.

He then changes party affiliation (but was first a Democrat)

In December 1988, Duke changed his political affiliation from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.

The Republican party/US President(at that time) Bush denounces Duke as Racist.

I suspect you looked at the first sentence of the Wiki on Duke and ran with that ignoring the Nazi party history and foundations as well as those precepts.

Duke is trying to ride the ‘push back’ from conservatives on many of the social programs and the feeling from some conservatives that these social programs have gone too far. He is definitely a chameleon..

In 1990 syndicated columnist Jack Anderson argued Duke has done “everything to make himself look better to the voters, including plastic surgery”.

to which Duke had countered:

Duke explained in My Awakening that he had had reconstructive surgery on his nose, which had been broken many times.

Remember the earlier statements on Fascism?

Though normally described as being on the far right, there is a scholarly consensus that fascism was also influenced by the left, but with a focus on solutions from the right. – from Wiki.

[Arraya]

Nazi Germany was actually a combination of aristocracy and capitalism.

Technically, private businessmen owned and controlled the means of production. The Nazi “Charter of Labor” gave employers complete power over their workers. It established the employer as the “leader of the enterprise,” and read: “The leader of the enterprise makes the decisions for the employees and laborers in all matters concerning the enterprise.” The employer, however, was subject to the frequent orders of the ruling Nazi elite. After the Nazis took power in 1933, they quickly established a highly controlled war economy under the direction of Dr. Hjalmar Schacht.

Prior to the Nazi seizure of power in 1933, worker protests had spread all across Germany in response to the Great Depression. During his drive to power, Hitler exploited this social unrest by promising workers to strengthen their labor unions and increase their standard of living. But these were empty promises; privately, he was reassuring wealthy German businessmen that he would crack down on labor once he achieved power.

The Nazis abolished trade unions, collective bargaining and the right to strike. An organization called the “Labor Front” replaced the old trade unions, but it was an instrument of the Nazi party and did not represent workers.

According to the law that created it, “Its task is to see that every individual should be able… to perform the maximum of work.” Workers would indeed greatly boost their productivity under Nazi rule but they also became exploited. Between 1932 and 1936, workers wages fell, from 20.4 to 19.5 cents an hour for skilled labor, and from 16.1 to 13 cents an hour for unskilled labor.

[Arraya]

Nazi Germany was actually a combination of aristocracy and capitalism.

Technically, private businessmen owned and controlled the means of production. The Nazi “Charter of Labor” gave employers complete power over their workers. It established the employer as the “leader of the enterprise,” and read: “The leader of the enterprise makes the decisions for the employees and laborers in all matters concerning the enterprise.” The employer, however, was subject to the frequent orders of the ruling Nazi elite. After the Nazis took power in 1933, they quickly established a highly controlled war economy under the direction of Dr. Hjalmar Schacht.

Prior to the Nazi seizure of power in 1933, worker protests had spread all across Germany in response to the Great Depression. During his drive to power, Hitler exploited this social unrest by promising workers to strengthen their labor unions and increase their standard of living. But these were empty promises; privately, he was reassuring wealthy German businessmen that he would crack down on labor once he achieved power.

The Nazis abolished trade unions, collective bargaining and the right to strike. An organization called the “Labor Front” replaced the old trade unions, but it was an instrument of the Nazi party and did not represent workers.

According to the law that created it, “Its task is to see that every individual should be able… to perform the maximum of work.” Workers would indeed greatly boost their productivity under Nazi rule but they also became exploited. Between 1932 and 1936, workers wages fell, from 20.4 to 19.5 cents an hour for skilled labor, and from 16.1 to 13 cents an hour for unskilled labor.

[Arraya]

Nazi Germany was actually a combination of aristocracy and capitalism.

Technically, private businessmen owned and controlled the means of production. The Nazi “Charter of Labor” gave employers complete power over their workers. It established the employer as the “leader of the enterprise,” and read: “The leader of the enterprise makes the decisions for the employees and laborers in all matters concerning the enterprise.” The employer, however, was subject to the frequent orders of the ruling Nazi elite. After the Nazis took power in 1933, they quickly established a highly controlled war economy under the direction of Dr. Hjalmar Schacht.

Prior to the Nazi seizure of power in 1933, worker protests had spread all across Germany in response to the Great Depression. During his drive to power, Hitler exploited this social unrest by promising workers to strengthen their labor unions and increase their standard of living. But these were empty promises; privately, he was reassuring wealthy German businessmen that he would crack down on labor once he achieved power.

The Nazis abolished trade unions, collective bargaining and the right to strike. An organization called the “Labor Front” replaced the old trade unions, but it was an instrument of the Nazi party and did not represent workers.

According to the law that created it, “Its task is to see that every individual should be able… to perform the maximum of work.” Workers would indeed greatly boost their productivity under Nazi rule but they also became exploited. Between 1932 and 1936, workers wages fell, from 20.4 to 19.5 cents an hour for skilled labor, and from 16.1 to 13 cents an hour for unskilled labor.

[Arraya]

Nazi Germany was actually a combination of aristocracy and capitalism.

Technically, private businessmen owned and controlled the means of production. The Nazi “Charter of Labor” gave employers complete power over their workers. It established the employer as the “leader of the enterprise,” and read: “The leader of the enterprise makes the decisions for the employees and laborers in all matters concerning the enterprise.” The employer, however, was subject to the frequent orders of the ruling Nazi elite. After the Nazis took power in 1933, they quickly established a highly controlled war economy under the direction of Dr. Hjalmar Schacht.

Prior to the Nazi seizure of power in 1933, worker protests had spread all across Germany in response to the Great Depression. During his drive to power, Hitler exploited this social unrest by promising workers to strengthen their labor unions and increase their standard of living. But these were empty promises; privately, he was reassuring wealthy German businessmen that he would crack down on labor once he achieved power.

The Nazis abolished trade unions, collective bargaining and the right to strike. An organization called the “Labor Front” replaced the old trade unions, but it was an instrument of the Nazi party and did not represent workers.

According to the law that created it, “Its task is to see that every individual should be able… to perform the maximum of work.” Workers would indeed greatly boost their productivity under Nazi rule but they also became exploited. Between 1932 and 1936, workers wages fell, from 20.4 to 19.5 cents an hour for skilled labor, and from 16.1 to 13 cents an hour for unskilled labor.

[Arraya]

Nazi Germany was actually a combination of aristocracy and capitalism.

Technically, private businessmen owned and controlled the means of production. The Nazi “Charter of Labor” gave employers complete power over their workers. It established the employer as the “leader of the enterprise,” and read: “The leader of the enterprise makes the decisions for the employees and laborers in all matters concerning the enterprise.” The employer, however, was subject to the frequent orders of the ruling Nazi elite. After the Nazis took power in 1933, they quickly established a highly controlled war economy under the direction of Dr. Hjalmar Schacht.

Prior to the Nazi seizure of power in 1933, worker protests had spread all across Germany in response to the Great Depression. During his drive to power, Hitler exploited this social unrest by promising workers to strengthen their labor unions and increase their standard of living. But these were empty promises; privately, he was reassuring wealthy German businessmen that he would crack down on labor once he achieved power.

The Nazis abolished trade unions, collective bargaining and the right to strike. An organization called the “Labor Front” replaced the old trade unions, but it was an instrument of the Nazi party and did not represent workers.

According to the law that created it, “Its task is to see that every individual should be able… to perform the maximum of work.” Workers would indeed greatly boost their productivity under Nazi rule but they also became exploited. Between 1932 and 1936, workers wages fell, from 20.4 to 19.5 cents an hour for skilled labor, and from 16.1 to 13 cents an hour for unskilled labor.

[briansd1]

Of course, Arraya is correct about Nazi Germany.

But what’s the point discussing Nazi Germany of decades ago? Let’s focus on the threats of violence today.

The American right wing claims that Obama is Hitler. But yet it’s undeniable that American White supremacist groups are right wing.

Rightwing extremism is the danger we are now facing.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/14/federal-agency-warns-of-radicals-on-right/

Here is the DHS report:
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

[briansd1]

Of course, Arraya is correct about Nazi Germany.

But what’s the point discussing Nazi Germany of decades ago? Let’s focus on the threats of violence today.

The American right wing claims that Obama is Hitler. But yet it’s undeniable that American White supremacist groups are right wing.

Rightwing extremism is the danger we are now facing.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/14/federal-agency-warns-of-radicals-on-right/

Here is the DHS report:
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

[briansd1]

Of course, Arraya is correct about Nazi Germany.

But what’s the point discussing Nazi Germany of decades ago? Let’s focus on the threats of violence today.

The American right wing claims that Obama is Hitler. But yet it’s undeniable that American White supremacist groups are right wing.

Rightwing extremism is the danger we are now facing.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/14/federal-agency-warns-of-radicals-on-right/

Here is the DHS report:
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

[briansd1]

Of course, Arraya is correct about Nazi Germany.

But what’s the point discussing Nazi Germany of decades ago? Let’s focus on the threats of violence today.

The American right wing claims that Obama is Hitler. But yet it’s undeniable that American White supremacist groups are right wing.

Rightwing extremism is the danger we are now facing.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/14/federal-agency-warns-of-radicals-on-right/

Here is the DHS report:
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

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