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January 11, 2011 at 2:49 PM #652760January 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM #651949Allan from FallbrookParticipant
[quote=pri_dk]History shows no clear relationship between left/right politics and oppressive governments. Despots just use any system of government to gain power, and then there is no system other than dictatorship.
Attempting to associate oppression with any particular “ism” is the wrong approach.
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Pri: I find myself agreeing with you more times than not, but this is one of those times where I have to disagree.
History can show at least one clear instance of Leftism leading to oppression and that is under Communism. You’re looking at some of the worst repression and oppression in modern history and tied to Communist regimes. This is a system of government that has killed nearly 100MM people.
Using Soviet Russia and Communist China only, you can find someone of the most egregious human rights violations ever, and, in the case of China, they continue to this day.
Sorry, but that particular “ism” remains one of the most virulent strains and it unfortunately continues to this day.
January 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM #652015Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pri_dk]History shows no clear relationship between left/right politics and oppressive governments. Despots just use any system of government to gain power, and then there is no system other than dictatorship.
Attempting to associate oppression with any particular “ism” is the wrong approach.
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Pri: I find myself agreeing with you more times than not, but this is one of those times where I have to disagree.
History can show at least one clear instance of Leftism leading to oppression and that is under Communism. You’re looking at some of the worst repression and oppression in modern history and tied to Communist regimes. This is a system of government that has killed nearly 100MM people.
Using Soviet Russia and Communist China only, you can find someone of the most egregious human rights violations ever, and, in the case of China, they continue to this day.
Sorry, but that particular “ism” remains one of the most virulent strains and it unfortunately continues to this day.
January 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM #652605Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pri_dk]History shows no clear relationship between left/right politics and oppressive governments. Despots just use any system of government to gain power, and then there is no system other than dictatorship.
Attempting to associate oppression with any particular “ism” is the wrong approach.
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Pri: I find myself agreeing with you more times than not, but this is one of those times where I have to disagree.
History can show at least one clear instance of Leftism leading to oppression and that is under Communism. You’re looking at some of the worst repression and oppression in modern history and tied to Communist regimes. This is a system of government that has killed nearly 100MM people.
Using Soviet Russia and Communist China only, you can find someone of the most egregious human rights violations ever, and, in the case of China, they continue to this day.
Sorry, but that particular “ism” remains one of the most virulent strains and it unfortunately continues to this day.
January 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM #652741Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pri_dk]History shows no clear relationship between left/right politics and oppressive governments. Despots just use any system of government to gain power, and then there is no system other than dictatorship.
Attempting to associate oppression with any particular “ism” is the wrong approach.
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Pri: I find myself agreeing with you more times than not, but this is one of those times where I have to disagree.
History can show at least one clear instance of Leftism leading to oppression and that is under Communism. You’re looking at some of the worst repression and oppression in modern history and tied to Communist regimes. This is a system of government that has killed nearly 100MM people.
Using Soviet Russia and Communist China only, you can find someone of the most egregious human rights violations ever, and, in the case of China, they continue to this day.
Sorry, but that particular “ism” remains one of the most virulent strains and it unfortunately continues to this day.
January 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM #653070Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pri_dk]History shows no clear relationship between left/right politics and oppressive governments. Despots just use any system of government to gain power, and then there is no system other than dictatorship.
Attempting to associate oppression with any particular “ism” is the wrong approach.
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Pri: I find myself agreeing with you more times than not, but this is one of those times where I have to disagree.
History can show at least one clear instance of Leftism leading to oppression and that is under Communism. You’re looking at some of the worst repression and oppression in modern history and tied to Communist regimes. This is a system of government that has killed nearly 100MM people.
Using Soviet Russia and Communist China only, you can find someone of the most egregious human rights violations ever, and, in the case of China, they continue to this day.
Sorry, but that particular “ism” remains one of the most virulent strains and it unfortunately continues to this day.
January 11, 2011 at 9:04 PM #651964KIBUParticipantSome have suggested that the shooter had some hatred problem with the congresswoman for a long time that led to his shooting.
A friend of mine raised the issue, if it’s was only the congresswoman that was the target, then why did he shoot the whole crowd and even attempted to reload to shoot again more people??? Did the guy wanted to kill as many people as he could at that location and not simply the congresswoman?
It’s quite a contrast to assassination the like of JFK, when only one target was aimed. It suggests that to this shooter, there was no difference between the congresswoman and all the supporters attending the meeting.
When that’s the case, whenever my congressman want to see me, I will just run the other way. He may have security but I don’t.
January 11, 2011 at 9:04 PM #652030KIBUParticipantSome have suggested that the shooter had some hatred problem with the congresswoman for a long time that led to his shooting.
A friend of mine raised the issue, if it’s was only the congresswoman that was the target, then why did he shoot the whole crowd and even attempted to reload to shoot again more people??? Did the guy wanted to kill as many people as he could at that location and not simply the congresswoman?
It’s quite a contrast to assassination the like of JFK, when only one target was aimed. It suggests that to this shooter, there was no difference between the congresswoman and all the supporters attending the meeting.
When that’s the case, whenever my congressman want to see me, I will just run the other way. He may have security but I don’t.
January 11, 2011 at 9:04 PM #652620KIBUParticipantSome have suggested that the shooter had some hatred problem with the congresswoman for a long time that led to his shooting.
A friend of mine raised the issue, if it’s was only the congresswoman that was the target, then why did he shoot the whole crowd and even attempted to reload to shoot again more people??? Did the guy wanted to kill as many people as he could at that location and not simply the congresswoman?
It’s quite a contrast to assassination the like of JFK, when only one target was aimed. It suggests that to this shooter, there was no difference between the congresswoman and all the supporters attending the meeting.
When that’s the case, whenever my congressman want to see me, I will just run the other way. He may have security but I don’t.
January 11, 2011 at 9:04 PM #652756KIBUParticipantSome have suggested that the shooter had some hatred problem with the congresswoman for a long time that led to his shooting.
A friend of mine raised the issue, if it’s was only the congresswoman that was the target, then why did he shoot the whole crowd and even attempted to reload to shoot again more people??? Did the guy wanted to kill as many people as he could at that location and not simply the congresswoman?
It’s quite a contrast to assassination the like of JFK, when only one target was aimed. It suggests that to this shooter, there was no difference between the congresswoman and all the supporters attending the meeting.
When that’s the case, whenever my congressman want to see me, I will just run the other way. He may have security but I don’t.
January 11, 2011 at 9:04 PM #653085KIBUParticipantSome have suggested that the shooter had some hatred problem with the congresswoman for a long time that led to his shooting.
A friend of mine raised the issue, if it’s was only the congresswoman that was the target, then why did he shoot the whole crowd and even attempted to reload to shoot again more people??? Did the guy wanted to kill as many people as he could at that location and not simply the congresswoman?
It’s quite a contrast to assassination the like of JFK, when only one target was aimed. It suggests that to this shooter, there was no difference between the congresswoman and all the supporters attending the meeting.
When that’s the case, whenever my congressman want to see me, I will just run the other way. He may have security but I don’t.
January 11, 2011 at 9:38 PM #651974paramountParticipantOf course Sinclair Lewis said it best:
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.”
And never more relevant.
Ron Paul was also right about fascism in America.
January 11, 2011 at 9:38 PM #652040paramountParticipantOf course Sinclair Lewis said it best:
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.”
And never more relevant.
Ron Paul was also right about fascism in America.
January 11, 2011 at 9:38 PM #652630paramountParticipantOf course Sinclair Lewis said it best:
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.”
And never more relevant.
Ron Paul was also right about fascism in America.
January 11, 2011 at 9:38 PM #652766paramountParticipantOf course Sinclair Lewis said it best:
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.”
And never more relevant.
Ron Paul was also right about fascism in America.
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