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January 11, 2011 at 10:24 AM #652422January 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM #651484
Arraya
ParticipantSure Allan I get it. I was referring more to the standard political spectrum graph you will get in any first year political science class. As well as the subsequent conflation of Hitler with left wing politics meme floating around because of the title National Socialist Party. In a sense, ‘pundits’ do with past dictators what is being done with this recent shooter, which is claim them to the other ‘team’.
January 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM #651551Arraya
ParticipantSure Allan I get it. I was referring more to the standard political spectrum graph you will get in any first year political science class. As well as the subsequent conflation of Hitler with left wing politics meme floating around because of the title National Socialist Party. In a sense, ‘pundits’ do with past dictators what is being done with this recent shooter, which is claim them to the other ‘team’.
January 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM #652138Arraya
ParticipantSure Allan I get it. I was referring more to the standard political spectrum graph you will get in any first year political science class. As well as the subsequent conflation of Hitler with left wing politics meme floating around because of the title National Socialist Party. In a sense, ‘pundits’ do with past dictators what is being done with this recent shooter, which is claim them to the other ‘team’.
January 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM #652273Arraya
ParticipantSure Allan I get it. I was referring more to the standard political spectrum graph you will get in any first year political science class. As well as the subsequent conflation of Hitler with left wing politics meme floating around because of the title National Socialist Party. In a sense, ‘pundits’ do with past dictators what is being done with this recent shooter, which is claim them to the other ‘team’.
January 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM #652603Arraya
ParticipantSure Allan I get it. I was referring more to the standard political spectrum graph you will get in any first year political science class. As well as the subsequent conflation of Hitler with left wing politics meme floating around because of the title National Socialist Party. In a sense, ‘pundits’ do with past dictators what is being done with this recent shooter, which is claim them to the other ‘team’.
January 11, 2011 at 12:28 PM #651514bubba99
ParticipantArraya,
You state the unfortunate truth. As a society we could hide the insanity with an economy that gave even the marginally sane a path to future success. That path is quickly evaporating.
When the marginally sane, lose any hope for economic success, are armed, and close to homeless – look out. Add drug use, and a real disparity between the haves and have- nots, this will not be the last insane act by an individual toward a politician. This was predictable. I can only hope that this does not trigger a rash of copy cats.
My only surprise is that it was not a banker that fell to the first shots. I see a world of the “haves” surrounded by private security trying to prevent the Inevitable
January 11, 2011 at 12:28 PM #651581bubba99
ParticipantArraya,
You state the unfortunate truth. As a society we could hide the insanity with an economy that gave even the marginally sane a path to future success. That path is quickly evaporating.
When the marginally sane, lose any hope for economic success, are armed, and close to homeless – look out. Add drug use, and a real disparity between the haves and have- nots, this will not be the last insane act by an individual toward a politician. This was predictable. I can only hope that this does not trigger a rash of copy cats.
My only surprise is that it was not a banker that fell to the first shots. I see a world of the “haves” surrounded by private security trying to prevent the Inevitable
January 11, 2011 at 12:28 PM #652168bubba99
ParticipantArraya,
You state the unfortunate truth. As a society we could hide the insanity with an economy that gave even the marginally sane a path to future success. That path is quickly evaporating.
When the marginally sane, lose any hope for economic success, are armed, and close to homeless – look out. Add drug use, and a real disparity between the haves and have- nots, this will not be the last insane act by an individual toward a politician. This was predictable. I can only hope that this does not trigger a rash of copy cats.
My only surprise is that it was not a banker that fell to the first shots. I see a world of the “haves” surrounded by private security trying to prevent the Inevitable
January 11, 2011 at 12:28 PM #652303bubba99
ParticipantArraya,
You state the unfortunate truth. As a society we could hide the insanity with an economy that gave even the marginally sane a path to future success. That path is quickly evaporating.
When the marginally sane, lose any hope for economic success, are armed, and close to homeless – look out. Add drug use, and a real disparity between the haves and have- nots, this will not be the last insane act by an individual toward a politician. This was predictable. I can only hope that this does not trigger a rash of copy cats.
My only surprise is that it was not a banker that fell to the first shots. I see a world of the “haves” surrounded by private security trying to prevent the Inevitable
January 11, 2011 at 12:28 PM #652633bubba99
ParticipantArraya,
You state the unfortunate truth. As a society we could hide the insanity with an economy that gave even the marginally sane a path to future success. That path is quickly evaporating.
When the marginally sane, lose any hope for economic success, are armed, and close to homeless – look out. Add drug use, and a real disparity between the haves and have- nots, this will not be the last insane act by an individual toward a politician. This was predictable. I can only hope that this does not trigger a rash of copy cats.
My only surprise is that it was not a banker that fell to the first shots. I see a world of the “haves” surrounded by private security trying to prevent the Inevitable
January 11, 2011 at 1:15 PM #651559Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Arraya]Sure Allan I get it. I was referring more to the standard political spectrum graph you will get in any first year political science class. As well as the subsequent conflation of Hitler with left wing politics meme floating around because of the title National Socialist Party. In a sense, ‘pundits’ do with past dictators what is being done with this recent shooter, which is claim them to the other ‘team’.[/quote]
Arraya: And now you make the larger point, which is that the chattering classes really have no sense of history, save what they’re told, and no sense of ideology, save what they’ve learned in PoliSci 101. Which leads to a cessation of honest dialogue and the “us versus them” finger pointing that Russ mentioned above.
The wheels are getting ever closer to coming completely off the wagon and Bubba99’s post below really hits the nail on the head. We’re getting frighteningly close to becoming the best defended Third World nation on the planet. There’s a great book out there by Norman Spinrad, called “Russian Spring” that lays out this dystopian future nearly exactly.
January 11, 2011 at 1:15 PM #651625Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Arraya]Sure Allan I get it. I was referring more to the standard political spectrum graph you will get in any first year political science class. As well as the subsequent conflation of Hitler with left wing politics meme floating around because of the title National Socialist Party. In a sense, ‘pundits’ do with past dictators what is being done with this recent shooter, which is claim them to the other ‘team’.[/quote]
Arraya: And now you make the larger point, which is that the chattering classes really have no sense of history, save what they’re told, and no sense of ideology, save what they’ve learned in PoliSci 101. Which leads to a cessation of honest dialogue and the “us versus them” finger pointing that Russ mentioned above.
The wheels are getting ever closer to coming completely off the wagon and Bubba99’s post below really hits the nail on the head. We’re getting frighteningly close to becoming the best defended Third World nation on the planet. There’s a great book out there by Norman Spinrad, called “Russian Spring” that lays out this dystopian future nearly exactly.
January 11, 2011 at 1:15 PM #652213Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Arraya]Sure Allan I get it. I was referring more to the standard political spectrum graph you will get in any first year political science class. As well as the subsequent conflation of Hitler with left wing politics meme floating around because of the title National Socialist Party. In a sense, ‘pundits’ do with past dictators what is being done with this recent shooter, which is claim them to the other ‘team’.[/quote]
Arraya: And now you make the larger point, which is that the chattering classes really have no sense of history, save what they’re told, and no sense of ideology, save what they’ve learned in PoliSci 101. Which leads to a cessation of honest dialogue and the “us versus them” finger pointing that Russ mentioned above.
The wheels are getting ever closer to coming completely off the wagon and Bubba99’s post below really hits the nail on the head. We’re getting frighteningly close to becoming the best defended Third World nation on the planet. There’s a great book out there by Norman Spinrad, called “Russian Spring” that lays out this dystopian future nearly exactly.
January 11, 2011 at 1:15 PM #652348Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Arraya]Sure Allan I get it. I was referring more to the standard political spectrum graph you will get in any first year political science class. As well as the subsequent conflation of Hitler with left wing politics meme floating around because of the title National Socialist Party. In a sense, ‘pundits’ do with past dictators what is being done with this recent shooter, which is claim them to the other ‘team’.[/quote]
Arraya: And now you make the larger point, which is that the chattering classes really have no sense of history, save what they’re told, and no sense of ideology, save what they’ve learned in PoliSci 101. Which leads to a cessation of honest dialogue and the “us versus them” finger pointing that Russ mentioned above.
The wheels are getting ever closer to coming completely off the wagon and Bubba99’s post below really hits the nail on the head. We’re getting frighteningly close to becoming the best defended Third World nation on the planet. There’s a great book out there by Norman Spinrad, called “Russian Spring” that lays out this dystopian future nearly exactly.
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