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January 10, 2011 at 9:57 PM #652064January 10, 2011 at 9:59 PM #650940
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Participant[quote=surveyor][quote=Rustico]Great post Surveyor,
So you basically demonstrate that the left and the right will do anything to get votes, Terrorism, endorsing and giving venue to religious nuts through their charlatan leaders…whatever it takes… and so what if it makes the U.S. the first Yosemite Sam meets Jerry Springer sovereign.[/quote]So when the OP and others in this post are so quick to accuse Palin, the right wingers, Republicans, and others that they are responsible for this tragedy, you should be able to discern the invalidity of their assertions, right?
And it’s interesting to note the lack of outrage from those same people when the democrats use the same language, right?
It’s just interesting how many times the MSM accuse Palin and the tea party of violence and racism and have come up short of proof again.
By the way, surveyors also call theodolites “guns.” Will that qualify me as a right winger as a murderer before the facts? Maybe if I was perceived as a liberal that wouldn’t happen.[/quote]
Obviously, I don’t think the assertions made against your team are invalid.
You noted very well that the democrats are equally offensive and irresponsible. It looks like both teams here and elsewhere are more concerned about the image of their respective sides then the victims or society in general.I really can’t speak to the racism off the top of my head. The violence is ubiquitous, we are indoctrinated into it from the cradle onward so that we can recruit soldiers. However,it is used as a Pavlovian lever to get votes. Obviously that lever has side effects in some of the indoctrinated.I think a few people on this thread spelled all this out pretty well already, but there it is just in case you didn’t read those posts.
Surveyor, Of course the word “gun” and “shoot” are used in many non- violent applications. I don’t even see how this question is in context. Sounds a bit self conscious. If you were posing as a legitimate politician and made a map with your theodolite caving in someone’s head in political districts where you wished to see them out of office, I might consider you a menace to society.
In this case I see you as irresponsible for putting your parties image over creating a better climate.
January 10, 2011 at 9:59 PM #651009Participant[quote=surveyor][quote=Rustico]Great post Surveyor,
So you basically demonstrate that the left and the right will do anything to get votes, Terrorism, endorsing and giving venue to religious nuts through their charlatan leaders…whatever it takes… and so what if it makes the U.S. the first Yosemite Sam meets Jerry Springer sovereign.[/quote]So when the OP and others in this post are so quick to accuse Palin, the right wingers, Republicans, and others that they are responsible for this tragedy, you should be able to discern the invalidity of their assertions, right?
And it’s interesting to note the lack of outrage from those same people when the democrats use the same language, right?
It’s just interesting how many times the MSM accuse Palin and the tea party of violence and racism and have come up short of proof again.
By the way, surveyors also call theodolites “guns.” Will that qualify me as a right winger as a murderer before the facts? Maybe if I was perceived as a liberal that wouldn’t happen.[/quote]
Obviously, I don’t think the assertions made against your team are invalid.
You noted very well that the democrats are equally offensive and irresponsible. It looks like both teams here and elsewhere are more concerned about the image of their respective sides then the victims or society in general.I really can’t speak to the racism off the top of my head. The violence is ubiquitous, we are indoctrinated into it from the cradle onward so that we can recruit soldiers. However,it is used as a Pavlovian lever to get votes. Obviously that lever has side effects in some of the indoctrinated.I think a few people on this thread spelled all this out pretty well already, but there it is just in case you didn’t read those posts.
Surveyor, Of course the word “gun” and “shoot” are used in many non- violent applications. I don’t even see how this question is in context. Sounds a bit self conscious. If you were posing as a legitimate politician and made a map with your theodolite caving in someone’s head in political districts where you wished to see them out of office, I might consider you a menace to society.
In this case I see you as irresponsible for putting your parties image over creating a better climate.
January 10, 2011 at 9:59 PM #651592Participant[quote=surveyor][quote=Rustico]Great post Surveyor,
So you basically demonstrate that the left and the right will do anything to get votes, Terrorism, endorsing and giving venue to religious nuts through their charlatan leaders…whatever it takes… and so what if it makes the U.S. the first Yosemite Sam meets Jerry Springer sovereign.[/quote]So when the OP and others in this post are so quick to accuse Palin, the right wingers, Republicans, and others that they are responsible for this tragedy, you should be able to discern the invalidity of their assertions, right?
And it’s interesting to note the lack of outrage from those same people when the democrats use the same language, right?
It’s just interesting how many times the MSM accuse Palin and the tea party of violence and racism and have come up short of proof again.
By the way, surveyors also call theodolites “guns.” Will that qualify me as a right winger as a murderer before the facts? Maybe if I was perceived as a liberal that wouldn’t happen.[/quote]
Obviously, I don’t think the assertions made against your team are invalid.
You noted very well that the democrats are equally offensive and irresponsible. It looks like both teams here and elsewhere are more concerned about the image of their respective sides then the victims or society in general.I really can’t speak to the racism off the top of my head. The violence is ubiquitous, we are indoctrinated into it from the cradle onward so that we can recruit soldiers. However,it is used as a Pavlovian lever to get votes. Obviously that lever has side effects in some of the indoctrinated.I think a few people on this thread spelled all this out pretty well already, but there it is just in case you didn’t read those posts.
Surveyor, Of course the word “gun” and “shoot” are used in many non- violent applications. I don’t even see how this question is in context. Sounds a bit self conscious. If you were posing as a legitimate politician and made a map with your theodolite caving in someone’s head in political districts where you wished to see them out of office, I might consider you a menace to society.
In this case I see you as irresponsible for putting your parties image over creating a better climate.
January 10, 2011 at 9:59 PM #651727Participant[quote=surveyor][quote=Rustico]Great post Surveyor,
So you basically demonstrate that the left and the right will do anything to get votes, Terrorism, endorsing and giving venue to religious nuts through their charlatan leaders…whatever it takes… and so what if it makes the U.S. the first Yosemite Sam meets Jerry Springer sovereign.[/quote]So when the OP and others in this post are so quick to accuse Palin, the right wingers, Republicans, and others that they are responsible for this tragedy, you should be able to discern the invalidity of their assertions, right?
And it’s interesting to note the lack of outrage from those same people when the democrats use the same language, right?
It’s just interesting how many times the MSM accuse Palin and the tea party of violence and racism and have come up short of proof again.
By the way, surveyors also call theodolites “guns.” Will that qualify me as a right winger as a murderer before the facts? Maybe if I was perceived as a liberal that wouldn’t happen.[/quote]
Obviously, I don’t think the assertions made against your team are invalid.
You noted very well that the democrats are equally offensive and irresponsible. It looks like both teams here and elsewhere are more concerned about the image of their respective sides then the victims or society in general.I really can’t speak to the racism off the top of my head. The violence is ubiquitous, we are indoctrinated into it from the cradle onward so that we can recruit soldiers. However,it is used as a Pavlovian lever to get votes. Obviously that lever has side effects in some of the indoctrinated.I think a few people on this thread spelled all this out pretty well already, but there it is just in case you didn’t read those posts.
Surveyor, Of course the word “gun” and “shoot” are used in many non- violent applications. I don’t even see how this question is in context. Sounds a bit self conscious. If you were posing as a legitimate politician and made a map with your theodolite caving in someone’s head in political districts where you wished to see them out of office, I might consider you a menace to society.
In this case I see you as irresponsible for putting your parties image over creating a better climate.
January 10, 2011 at 9:59 PM #652054Participant[quote=surveyor][quote=Rustico]Great post Surveyor,
So you basically demonstrate that the left and the right will do anything to get votes, Terrorism, endorsing and giving venue to religious nuts through their charlatan leaders…whatever it takes… and so what if it makes the U.S. the first Yosemite Sam meets Jerry Springer sovereign.[/quote]So when the OP and others in this post are so quick to accuse Palin, the right wingers, Republicans, and others that they are responsible for this tragedy, you should be able to discern the invalidity of their assertions, right?
And it’s interesting to note the lack of outrage from those same people when the democrats use the same language, right?
It’s just interesting how many times the MSM accuse Palin and the tea party of violence and racism and have come up short of proof again.
By the way, surveyors also call theodolites “guns.” Will that qualify me as a right winger as a murderer before the facts? Maybe if I was perceived as a liberal that wouldn’t happen.[/quote]
Obviously, I don’t think the assertions made against your team are invalid.
You noted very well that the democrats are equally offensive and irresponsible. It looks like both teams here and elsewhere are more concerned about the image of their respective sides then the victims or society in general.I really can’t speak to the racism off the top of my head. The violence is ubiquitous, we are indoctrinated into it from the cradle onward so that we can recruit soldiers. However,it is used as a Pavlovian lever to get votes. Obviously that lever has side effects in some of the indoctrinated.I think a few people on this thread spelled all this out pretty well already, but there it is just in case you didn’t read those posts.
Surveyor, Of course the word “gun” and “shoot” are used in many non- violent applications. I don’t even see how this question is in context. Sounds a bit self conscious. If you were posing as a legitimate politician and made a map with your theodolite caving in someone’s head in political districts where you wished to see them out of office, I might consider you a menace to society.
In this case I see you as irresponsible for putting your parties image over creating a better climate.
January 10, 2011 at 10:16 PM #650960surveyor
Participant[quote]In this case I see you as irresponsible for putting your parties image over creating a better climate.[/quote]
Actually the assertions made in this topic HAVE been proven invalid. From the information we already know, there was absolutely no connection to Palin and the Tea party. Many posters here and the MSM have made this rush to judgment without any evidence right away.
If you and others want to keep pushing this narrative without any proof in order to create a better climate, then continue to call me irresponsible. However, labels (conservative, liberal, tea party, republican, democrat, or irresponsible) will not change the facts that there was no connection.
January 10, 2011 at 10:16 PM #651029Participant[quote]In this case I see you as irresponsible for putting your parties image over creating a better climate.[/quote]
Actually the assertions made in this topic HAVE been proven invalid. From the information we already know, there was absolutely no connection to Palin and the Tea party. Many posters here and the MSM have made this rush to judgment without any evidence right away.
If you and others want to keep pushing this narrative without any proof in order to create a better climate, then continue to call me irresponsible. However, labels (conservative, liberal, tea party, republican, democrat, or irresponsible) will not change the facts that there was no connection.
January 10, 2011 at 10:16 PM #651611Participant[quote]In this case I see you as irresponsible for putting your parties image over creating a better climate.[/quote]
Actually the assertions made in this topic HAVE been proven invalid. From the information we already know, there was absolutely no connection to Palin and the Tea party. Many posters here and the MSM have made this rush to judgment without any evidence right away.
If you and others want to keep pushing this narrative without any proof in order to create a better climate, then continue to call me irresponsible. However, labels (conservative, liberal, tea party, republican, democrat, or irresponsible) will not change the facts that there was no connection.
January 10, 2011 at 10:16 PM #651747Participant[quote]In this case I see you as irresponsible for putting your parties image over creating a better climate.[/quote]
Actually the assertions made in this topic HAVE been proven invalid. From the information we already know, there was absolutely no connection to Palin and the Tea party. Many posters here and the MSM have made this rush to judgment without any evidence right away.
If you and others want to keep pushing this narrative without any proof in order to create a better climate, then continue to call me irresponsible. However, labels (conservative, liberal, tea party, republican, democrat, or irresponsible) will not change the facts that there was no connection.
January 10, 2011 at 10:16 PM #652074Participant[quote]In this case I see you as irresponsible for putting your parties image over creating a better climate.[/quote]
Actually the assertions made in this topic HAVE been proven invalid. From the information we already know, there was absolutely no connection to Palin and the Tea party. Many posters here and the MSM have made this rush to judgment without any evidence right away.
If you and others want to keep pushing this narrative without any proof in order to create a better climate, then continue to call me irresponsible. However, labels (conservative, liberal, tea party, republican, democrat, or irresponsible) will not change the facts that there was no connection.
January 10, 2011 at 10:37 PM #650968ucodegen
Participant[quote=pri_dk]
But apparently it’s “hard to argue with.”Hard to argue with the suggestion that Hitler was liberal?
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“The one who does not remember history is bound to live through it again” – George SantayanaLink to Google search for your perusal.
Last time I checked, socialism was towards the ‘left’ of the political spectrum. What happens if you keep going left on the political spectrum?
[quote surveyor]By the way, surveyors also call theodolites “guns.”
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A suspect was shot in the leg and two are on the loose after the would-be robbers tried to jack a group of surveyors packing heat.[/quote]
By that token, I have a whole bunch of guns… gun collector even.Some ‘gun porn’ for surveyor.
[img_assist|nid=14458|title=DKM3a|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=75]I bet the left side may now call me a NRA nut-job.
January 10, 2011 at 10:37 PM #651037Participant[quote=pri_dk]
But apparently it’s “hard to argue with.”Hard to argue with the suggestion that Hitler was liberal?
[/quote]
“The one who does not remember history is bound to live through it again” – George SantayanaLink to Google search for your perusal.
Last time I checked, socialism was towards the ‘left’ of the political spectrum. What happens if you keep going left on the political spectrum?
[quote surveyor]By the way, surveyors also call theodolites “guns.”
.
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A suspect was shot in the leg and two are on the loose after the would-be robbers tried to jack a group of surveyors packing heat.[/quote]
By that token, I have a whole bunch of guns… gun collector even.Some ‘gun porn’ for surveyor.
[img_assist|nid=14458|title=DKM3a|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=75]I bet the left side may now call me a NRA nut-job.
January 10, 2011 at 10:37 PM #651618Participant[quote=pri_dk]
But apparently it’s “hard to argue with.”Hard to argue with the suggestion that Hitler was liberal?
[/quote]
“The one who does not remember history is bound to live through it again” – George SantayanaLink to Google search for your perusal.
Last time I checked, socialism was towards the ‘left’ of the political spectrum. What happens if you keep going left on the political spectrum?
[quote surveyor]By the way, surveyors also call theodolites “guns.”
.
.
A suspect was shot in the leg and two are on the loose after the would-be robbers tried to jack a group of surveyors packing heat.[/quote]
By that token, I have a whole bunch of guns… gun collector even.Some ‘gun porn’ for surveyor.
[img_assist|nid=14458|title=DKM3a|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=75]I bet the left side may now call me a NRA nut-job.
January 10, 2011 at 10:37 PM #651755Participant[quote=pri_dk]
But apparently it’s “hard to argue with.”Hard to argue with the suggestion that Hitler was liberal?
[/quote]
“The one who does not remember history is bound to live through it again” – George SantayanaLink to Google search for your perusal.
Last time I checked, socialism was towards the ‘left’ of the political spectrum. What happens if you keep going left on the political spectrum?
[quote surveyor]By the way, surveyors also call theodolites “guns.”
.
.
A suspect was shot in the leg and two are on the loose after the would-be robbers tried to jack a group of surveyors packing heat.[/quote]
By that token, I have a whole bunch of guns… gun collector even.Some ‘gun porn’ for surveyor.
[img_assist|nid=14458|title=DKM3a|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=75]I bet the left side may now call me a NRA nut-job.
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