OT: Sad day for America

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[quote=surveyor]
Obama: ‘If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun’ http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/06/14/obama-if-they-bring-a-knife-to-the-fight-we-bring-a-gun/%5B/quote%5D
Touché. And now the predictable push for more gun control, ignoring the fact that it doesn’t work. Washington DC had strict gun control, yet had very high murder rates. Mexico has extremely strict gun control and yet many border towns on the Mexican side are completely lawless. Its delusional to believe that someone who is thinking of taking a life would be dissuaded by making the possession of a firearm illegal. In considering murder, they have already exceeded the barrier posed by making the possession of a firearm illegal.

What I am bothered by, is the general sense in this country of not wanting to get involved.. either to warn, stop or help. “It is not my problem.”, “It might be dangerous. They may get mad and come after you.”, “Let the police take care if it. They will find out about him and deal with it.”. The people who tried to take back the fourth plane on 9/11 showed what can be done. The people who stopped Richard Reid showed what can be done. Giffords’s intern also showed what can be done. Don’t wait for the ‘other guy’.. they may be waiting for you!

[Djshakes]

I love the right wing blame coming out before the facts.

Fort Hood shooting: Man screams “alah Akbar” and all you hear from the left is “don’t jump to conclusions, don’t jump to conclusions” from CNN all the way up to Obama.

AZ shooting: No facts out and Palin gets the blame. Turns out the guy is a left wing pot head.

Doesn’t matter though, because the seed (it was the right) has been planted and libtards propagate it, regardless of fact or not….but then again, when has the left ever cared about facts.

[Djshakes]

I love the right wing blame coming out before the facts.

Fort Hood shooting: Man screams “alah Akbar” and all you hear from the left is “don’t jump to conclusions, don’t jump to conclusions” from CNN all the way up to Obama.

AZ shooting: No facts out and Palin gets the blame. Turns out the guy is a left wing pot head.

Doesn’t matter though, because the seed (it was the right) has been planted and libtards propagate it, regardless of fact or not….but then again, when has the left ever cared about facts.

[Djshakes]

I love the right wing blame coming out before the facts.

Fort Hood shooting: Man screams “alah Akbar” and all you hear from the left is “don’t jump to conclusions, don’t jump to conclusions” from CNN all the way up to Obama.

AZ shooting: No facts out and Palin gets the blame. Turns out the guy is a left wing pot head.

Doesn’t matter though, because the seed (it was the right) has been planted and libtards propagate it, regardless of fact or not….but then again, when has the left ever cared about facts.

[Djshakes]

I love the right wing blame coming out before the facts.

Fort Hood shooting: Man screams “alah Akbar” and all you hear from the left is “don’t jump to conclusions, don’t jump to conclusions” from CNN all the way up to Obama.

AZ shooting: No facts out and Palin gets the blame. Turns out the guy is a left wing pot head.

Doesn’t matter though, because the seed (it was the right) has been planted and libtards propagate it, regardless of fact or not….but then again, when has the left ever cared about facts.

[Djshakes]

I love the right wing blame coming out before the facts.

Fort Hood shooting: Man screams “alah Akbar” and all you hear from the left is “don’t jump to conclusions, don’t jump to conclusions” from CNN all the way up to Obama.

AZ shooting: No facts out and Palin gets the blame. Turns out the guy is a left wing pot head.

Doesn’t matter though, because the seed (it was the right) has been planted and libtards propagate it, regardless of fact or not….but then again, when has the left ever cared about facts.

[jstoesz]

[quote=Arraya]Don’t get me wrong there are millions of mentally ill people that no harm to society and a toxic environment can trigger such things. Actually, the more it is looked at – a toxic environment can actually trigger the chemical imbalances.

I said back in the Joe Stack thread last year that I expect more incidents like this. It’s just the increasing toxicity of our culture driven by an untrustworthy power structure and systemic economic decay and complete desentization of violence.

The truth is that we live in a society which sanctions semi-electrocution of its own children on the grounds that it is not fatal, and therefore not true electrocution. It springs from the same streak of cultural cruelty that deems semi-drowning by water boarding not to be torture because it is seldom fatal.

In other news a predator drone killed 12 at a wedding party[/quote]

Arraya, you speak with impressive ignorance and simplicity. Maybe we should hang up the predator and go back to carpet bombing…the humane way to conduct war. Man if only we could go back to the days of General Curtis LeMay. Move over Albert Schweitzer, hello Lemay the finest humanitarian of the 20th century!

Oh, and EST here is some research for you…Not quite like “one flew over the cuckoos nest” anymore…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy

[jstoesz]

[quote=Arraya]Don’t get me wrong there are millions of mentally ill people that no harm to society and a toxic environment can trigger such things. Actually, the more it is looked at – a toxic environment can actually trigger the chemical imbalances.

I said back in the Joe Stack thread last year that I expect more incidents like this. It’s just the increasing toxicity of our culture driven by an untrustworthy power structure and systemic economic decay and complete desentization of violence.

The truth is that we live in a society which sanctions semi-electrocution of its own children on the grounds that it is not fatal, and therefore not true electrocution. It springs from the same streak of cultural cruelty that deems semi-drowning by water boarding not to be torture because it is seldom fatal.

In other news a predator drone killed 12 at a wedding party[/quote]

Arraya, you speak with impressive ignorance and simplicity. Maybe we should hang up the predator and go back to carpet bombing…the humane way to conduct war. Man if only we could go back to the days of General Curtis LeMay. Move over Albert Schweitzer, hello Lemay the finest humanitarian of the 20th century!

Oh, and EST here is some research for you…Not quite like “one flew over the cuckoos nest” anymore…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy

[jstoesz]

[quote=Arraya]Don’t get me wrong there are millions of mentally ill people that no harm to society and a toxic environment can trigger such things. Actually, the more it is looked at – a toxic environment can actually trigger the chemical imbalances.

I said back in the Joe Stack thread last year that I expect more incidents like this. It’s just the increasing toxicity of our culture driven by an untrustworthy power structure and systemic economic decay and complete desentization of violence.

The truth is that we live in a society which sanctions semi-electrocution of its own children on the grounds that it is not fatal, and therefore not true electrocution. It springs from the same streak of cultural cruelty that deems semi-drowning by water boarding not to be torture because it is seldom fatal.

In other news a predator drone killed 12 at a wedding party[/quote]

Arraya, you speak with impressive ignorance and simplicity. Maybe we should hang up the predator and go back to carpet bombing…the humane way to conduct war. Man if only we could go back to the days of General Curtis LeMay. Move over Albert Schweitzer, hello Lemay the finest humanitarian of the 20th century!

Oh, and EST here is some research for you…Not quite like “one flew over the cuckoos nest” anymore…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy

[jstoesz]

[quote=Arraya]Don’t get me wrong there are millions of mentally ill people that no harm to society and a toxic environment can trigger such things. Actually, the more it is looked at – a toxic environment can actually trigger the chemical imbalances.

I said back in the Joe Stack thread last year that I expect more incidents like this. It’s just the increasing toxicity of our culture driven by an untrustworthy power structure and systemic economic decay and complete desentization of violence.

The truth is that we live in a society which sanctions semi-electrocution of its own children on the grounds that it is not fatal, and therefore not true electrocution. It springs from the same streak of cultural cruelty that deems semi-drowning by water boarding not to be torture because it is seldom fatal.

In other news a predator drone killed 12 at a wedding party[/quote]

Arraya, you speak with impressive ignorance and simplicity. Maybe we should hang up the predator and go back to carpet bombing…the humane way to conduct war. Man if only we could go back to the days of General Curtis LeMay. Move over Albert Schweitzer, hello Lemay the finest humanitarian of the 20th century!

Oh, and EST here is some research for you…Not quite like “one flew over the cuckoos nest” anymore…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy

[jstoesz]

[quote=Arraya]Don’t get me wrong there are millions of mentally ill people that no harm to society and a toxic environment can trigger such things. Actually, the more it is looked at – a toxic environment can actually trigger the chemical imbalances.

I said back in the Joe Stack thread last year that I expect more incidents like this. It’s just the increasing toxicity of our culture driven by an untrustworthy power structure and systemic economic decay and complete desentization of violence.

The truth is that we live in a society which sanctions semi-electrocution of its own children on the grounds that it is not fatal, and therefore not true electrocution. It springs from the same streak of cultural cruelty that deems semi-drowning by water boarding not to be torture because it is seldom fatal.

In other news a predator drone killed 12 at a wedding party[/quote]

Arraya, you speak with impressive ignorance and simplicity. Maybe we should hang up the predator and go back to carpet bombing…the humane way to conduct war. Man if only we could go back to the days of General Curtis LeMay. Move over Albert Schweitzer, hello Lemay the finest humanitarian of the 20th century!

Oh, and EST here is some research for you…Not quite like “one flew over the cuckoos nest” anymore…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy

[NotCranky]

[quote=afx114]I can not help but bathe in the irony of surveyor’s post, seeing that the Palin camp has come out and stated that no, those weren’t crosshairs on their map, they were surveyor’s symbols! Is surveyor Sarah Palin?

And the Democratic map was clearly a map of Target locations. They have groceries now, you know.[/quote]
The democratic map appears to use archery targets. The archer’s tools are much more dangerous than the surveyor’s theodolite, even so, neither is generally used in massacres. Move along, nothing to see here.

[NotCranky]

[quote=afx114]I can not help but bathe in the irony of surveyor’s post, seeing that the Palin camp has come out and stated that no, those weren’t crosshairs on their map, they were surveyor’s symbols! Is surveyor Sarah Palin?

And the Democratic map was clearly a map of Target locations. They have groceries now, you know.[/quote]
The democratic map appears to use archery targets. The archer’s tools are much more dangerous than the surveyor’s theodolite, even so, neither is generally used in massacres. Move along, nothing to see here.

[NotCranky]

[quote=afx114]I can not help but bathe in the irony of surveyor’s post, seeing that the Palin camp has come out and stated that no, those weren’t crosshairs on their map, they were surveyor’s symbols! Is surveyor Sarah Palin?

And the Democratic map was clearly a map of Target locations. They have groceries now, you know.[/quote]
The democratic map appears to use archery targets. The archer’s tools are much more dangerous than the surveyor’s theodolite, even so, neither is generally used in massacres. Move along, nothing to see here.

[NotCranky]

[quote=afx114]I can not help but bathe in the irony of surveyor’s post, seeing that the Palin camp has come out and stated that no, those weren’t crosshairs on their map, they were surveyor’s symbols! Is surveyor Sarah Palin?

And the Democratic map was clearly a map of Target locations. They have groceries now, you know.[/quote]
The democratic map appears to use archery targets. The archer’s tools are much more dangerous than the surveyor’s theodolite, even so, neither is generally used in massacres. Move along, nothing to see here.

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