OT: Rally to restore sanity and/or fear

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[quote=briansd1] I don’t read political sites. My news is from NPR, PBS, the Washington Post, the New York Times and various European news outlets.

The great unwashed conservative masses on the Internet you are describing would probably call those extreme liberal news organizations….[/quote]

Hah! You’re right, Brian. But I chuckle because when they’re trying to confer believeability on a particular issue, event, statement, whatever, relating to their side, they always say, “The New York Times said…” or “The New York Times had an article….” or “It was in the New York Times….”. I’m, like, you just told me that the New York Times is part of the “lamestream media”, and now you’re trying to draw me over to your way of thinking by telling the NYT is at one with your views? Hmmmmm.

I don’t read political sites that agree with my views that are completely one-sided. 3* reasons: 1) i don’t have a lot of extra time, and I don’t need reinforcement of my views; 2) if I want confirmation of something I’ve heard, I won’t go to any political site for it; 3) any site that is completely one-sided (even if it reinforces most of what I believe) is automatically suspect in my book.

However, I do force myself to visit political sites with views unaligned with my own. For one thing, I don’t want it said (by my conscience or anyone else) that I never listen to the other side of an argument, and, for another, I can’t make an informed decision without being informed. Plus it makes me see a side of things that I really don’t like so that I don’t lull myself into a false sense of security about things. I like being prepared: it’s the latent Girl Scout in me.

* 4 reasons actually. #4) any time spent on other superfluous websites is time I don’t get to spend on Piggs.

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Both Obama and now Stewart have now harmed the left considerably by playing the “False Equivalency” card. Meanwhile, tomorrow will see probably a takeover of the House by the radical right-wing in this country along with a potential stalemate in the Senate. Which means nothing will happen for the next two years – which is what exactly the right-wing has wanted in this country.

I have to admit I have been dismayed by this “rally”. I certainly agree with discussing things in a civil manner, and arguing with facts and reason, not insults and slander. And there certainly needed to be a point made about the severe lack of civility and intelligent debate in the national discourse, however, that problem is a symptom, not a cause.

The right, which is now moved to the very far right, has basically hijacked the national discourse, courtesy of the corporate owned media which is controlled by an elite handful of people, and eradicated any actual left wing dialogue, or even any reasoned dialogue at all, shouting over it with lies, smears, slander, meaningless distractions and misinformation of all sorts packaged into framed talking points and neat soundbites.

You can’t fight that by being extra polite, or by, offering to sit down and have tea and crumpets.

There is a profound class war going on for the ownership of the country by the wealthy elites, make no mistake. And this calls for far much more than politesse.

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Both Obama and now Stewart have now harmed the left considerably by playing the “False Equivalency” card. Meanwhile, tomorrow will see probably a takeover of the House by the radical right-wing in this country along with a potential stalemate in the Senate. Which means nothing will happen for the next two years – which is what exactly the right-wing has wanted in this country.

I have to admit I have been dismayed by this “rally”. I certainly agree with discussing things in a civil manner, and arguing with facts and reason, not insults and slander. And there certainly needed to be a point made about the severe lack of civility and intelligent debate in the national discourse, however, that problem is a symptom, not a cause.

The right, which is now moved to the very far right, has basically hijacked the national discourse, courtesy of the corporate owned media which is controlled by an elite handful of people, and eradicated any actual left wing dialogue, or even any reasoned dialogue at all, shouting over it with lies, smears, slander, meaningless distractions and misinformation of all sorts packaged into framed talking points and neat soundbites.

You can’t fight that by being extra polite, or by, offering to sit down and have tea and crumpets.

There is a profound class war going on for the ownership of the country by the wealthy elites, make no mistake. And this calls for far much more than politesse.

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Both Obama and now Stewart have now harmed the left considerably by playing the “False Equivalency” card. Meanwhile, tomorrow will see probably a takeover of the House by the radical right-wing in this country along with a potential stalemate in the Senate. Which means nothing will happen for the next two years – which is what exactly the right-wing has wanted in this country.

I have to admit I have been dismayed by this “rally”. I certainly agree with discussing things in a civil manner, and arguing with facts and reason, not insults and slander. And there certainly needed to be a point made about the severe lack of civility and intelligent debate in the national discourse, however, that problem is a symptom, not a cause.

The right, which is now moved to the very far right, has basically hijacked the national discourse, courtesy of the corporate owned media which is controlled by an elite handful of people, and eradicated any actual left wing dialogue, or even any reasoned dialogue at all, shouting over it with lies, smears, slander, meaningless distractions and misinformation of all sorts packaged into framed talking points and neat soundbites.

You can’t fight that by being extra polite, or by, offering to sit down and have tea and crumpets.

There is a profound class war going on for the ownership of the country by the wealthy elites, make no mistake. And this calls for far much more than politesse.

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Both Obama and now Stewart have now harmed the left considerably by playing the “False Equivalency” card. Meanwhile, tomorrow will see probably a takeover of the House by the radical right-wing in this country along with a potential stalemate in the Senate. Which means nothing will happen for the next two years – which is what exactly the right-wing has wanted in this country.

I have to admit I have been dismayed by this “rally”. I certainly agree with discussing things in a civil manner, and arguing with facts and reason, not insults and slander. And there certainly needed to be a point made about the severe lack of civility and intelligent debate in the national discourse, however, that problem is a symptom, not a cause.

The right, which is now moved to the very far right, has basically hijacked the national discourse, courtesy of the corporate owned media which is controlled by an elite handful of people, and eradicated any actual left wing dialogue, or even any reasoned dialogue at all, shouting over it with lies, smears, slander, meaningless distractions and misinformation of all sorts packaged into framed talking points and neat soundbites.

You can’t fight that by being extra polite, or by, offering to sit down and have tea and crumpets.

There is a profound class war going on for the ownership of the country by the wealthy elites, make no mistake. And this calls for far much more than politesse.

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Both Obama and now Stewart have now harmed the left considerably by playing the “False Equivalency” card. Meanwhile, tomorrow will see probably a takeover of the House by the radical right-wing in this country along with a potential stalemate in the Senate. Which means nothing will happen for the next two years – which is what exactly the right-wing has wanted in this country.

I have to admit I have been dismayed by this “rally”. I certainly agree with discussing things in a civil manner, and arguing with facts and reason, not insults and slander. And there certainly needed to be a point made about the severe lack of civility and intelligent debate in the national discourse, however, that problem is a symptom, not a cause.

The right, which is now moved to the very far right, has basically hijacked the national discourse, courtesy of the corporate owned media which is controlled by an elite handful of people, and eradicated any actual left wing dialogue, or even any reasoned dialogue at all, shouting over it with lies, smears, slander, meaningless distractions and misinformation of all sorts packaged into framed talking points and neat soundbites.

You can’t fight that by being extra polite, or by, offering to sit down and have tea and crumpets.

There is a profound class war going on for the ownership of the country by the wealthy elites, make no mistake. And this calls for far much more than politesse.

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The 55 Funniest Signs From the Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear

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The 55 Funniest Signs From the Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear

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The 55 Funniest Signs From the Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear

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The 55 Funniest Signs From the Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear

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The 55 Funniest Signs From the Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear

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[quote=CONCHO][quote=pri_dk]What’s your point CONCHO?

Are we supposed to be shocked that Jon Stewart’s brother is a corporate exec?

Not a surprise: Jon has mentioned it on his show a few times.

If you wanna aspire to be like Glen Beck – using innuendo and guilt by association to expose the enemy – you gotta do better than that.[/quote]

I’m not aspiring to be like anyone, I’m just pointing out that to believe that any of these people on TV would give a crap about regular people is silly. Like George Carlin used to say, “It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.”[/quote]

The Mascot: uses comedy to divert attention away from the increasingly dysfunctional family system

Stewart is pacifying meaningful resistance by aligning them with people that relay a totally devoid of reality and totally implanted comic book version of the world. Meanwhile the empire chugs along to it’s demise.

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. —-Krishnamurti

“There is no salvation in becoming adapted to a world which is crazy.”
-Henry Miller

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[quote=CONCHO][quote=pri_dk]What’s your point CONCHO?

Are we supposed to be shocked that Jon Stewart’s brother is a corporate exec?

Not a surprise: Jon has mentioned it on his show a few times.

If you wanna aspire to be like Glen Beck – using innuendo and guilt by association to expose the enemy – you gotta do better than that.[/quote]

I’m not aspiring to be like anyone, I’m just pointing out that to believe that any of these people on TV would give a crap about regular people is silly. Like George Carlin used to say, “It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.”[/quote]

The Mascot: uses comedy to divert attention away from the increasingly dysfunctional family system

Stewart is pacifying meaningful resistance by aligning them with people that relay a totally devoid of reality and totally implanted comic book version of the world. Meanwhile the empire chugs along to it’s demise.

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. —-Krishnamurti

“There is no salvation in becoming adapted to a world which is crazy.”
-Henry Miller

[Arraya]

[quote=CONCHO][quote=pri_dk]What’s your point CONCHO?

Are we supposed to be shocked that Jon Stewart’s brother is a corporate exec?

Not a surprise: Jon has mentioned it on his show a few times.

If you wanna aspire to be like Glen Beck – using innuendo and guilt by association to expose the enemy – you gotta do better than that.[/quote]

I’m not aspiring to be like anyone, I’m just pointing out that to believe that any of these people on TV would give a crap about regular people is silly. Like George Carlin used to say, “It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.”[/quote]

The Mascot: uses comedy to divert attention away from the increasingly dysfunctional family system

Stewart is pacifying meaningful resistance by aligning them with people that relay a totally devoid of reality and totally implanted comic book version of the world. Meanwhile the empire chugs along to it’s demise.

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. —-Krishnamurti

“There is no salvation in becoming adapted to a world which is crazy.”
-Henry Miller

[Arraya]

[quote=CONCHO][quote=pri_dk]What’s your point CONCHO?

Are we supposed to be shocked that Jon Stewart’s brother is a corporate exec?

Not a surprise: Jon has mentioned it on his show a few times.

If you wanna aspire to be like Glen Beck – using innuendo and guilt by association to expose the enemy – you gotta do better than that.[/quote]

I’m not aspiring to be like anyone, I’m just pointing out that to believe that any of these people on TV would give a crap about regular people is silly. Like George Carlin used to say, “It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.”[/quote]

The Mascot: uses comedy to divert attention away from the increasingly dysfunctional family system

Stewart is pacifying meaningful resistance by aligning them with people that relay a totally devoid of reality and totally implanted comic book version of the world. Meanwhile the empire chugs along to it’s demise.

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. —-Krishnamurti

“There is no salvation in becoming adapted to a world which is crazy.”
-Henry Miller

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