OT: “Sing for Change” – the Obama Youth

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Russell]That’s right, the whole appease the Muslims thing is propaganda. Look how nice we are to them and they still won’t tolerate occupations, bombings,installations of puppet governments and looting of resources. [/quote]

Rus: You’re right, and what’s even more amazing is the absolute silence from the MSM on this topic. Obama is continuing the Bush policies, or, in some cases, expanding them (Afghanistan) and there is nary a peep from the chattering classes.

To give that speech in Cairo while Predators and Reapers circle vast swathes of Pakistan and Afghanistan, Gitmo remains open for business, and the US continues to torture (and don’t believe for a second we’ve stopped) is the height of hypocrisy.

I remain amazed by the capacity of people to believe this man, and in spite of the glaring evidence. “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

4plex: “Jekyll Island” is a great read and an educational one, too. A friend of mine in banking gave this book to me after an argument about the Federal Reserve Bank and it’s true function.

I always recommend Zinn’s “People’s History” as well.

Funny you mention Operation Paperclip. My dad was an aerospace engineer and we were talking about the moon landing for a report I was preparing for school. My dad said, “Make sure you tell them we couldn’t have done it without the Nazis” and I was aghast. Turns out, he was right. A good chunk of American capabilities were built around a group of former Nazi rocket scientists like Werner von Braun, some of whom were ardent Nazis, that the US had spirited out of Germany after the end of WWII.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

4plex: “Jekyll Island” is a great read and an educational one, too. A friend of mine in banking gave this book to me after an argument about the Federal Reserve Bank and it’s true function.

I always recommend Zinn’s “People’s History” as well.

Funny you mention Operation Paperclip. My dad was an aerospace engineer and we were talking about the moon landing for a report I was preparing for school. My dad said, “Make sure you tell them we couldn’t have done it without the Nazis” and I was aghast. Turns out, he was right. A good chunk of American capabilities were built around a group of former Nazi rocket scientists like Werner von Braun, some of whom were ardent Nazis, that the US had spirited out of Germany after the end of WWII.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

4plex: “Jekyll Island” is a great read and an educational one, too. A friend of mine in banking gave this book to me after an argument about the Federal Reserve Bank and it’s true function.

I always recommend Zinn’s “People’s History” as well.

Funny you mention Operation Paperclip. My dad was an aerospace engineer and we were talking about the moon landing for a report I was preparing for school. My dad said, “Make sure you tell them we couldn’t have done it without the Nazis” and I was aghast. Turns out, he was right. A good chunk of American capabilities were built around a group of former Nazi rocket scientists like Werner von Braun, some of whom were ardent Nazis, that the US had spirited out of Germany after the end of WWII.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

4plex: “Jekyll Island” is a great read and an educational one, too. A friend of mine in banking gave this book to me after an argument about the Federal Reserve Bank and it’s true function.

I always recommend Zinn’s “People’s History” as well.

Funny you mention Operation Paperclip. My dad was an aerospace engineer and we were talking about the moon landing for a report I was preparing for school. My dad said, “Make sure you tell them we couldn’t have done it without the Nazis” and I was aghast. Turns out, he was right. A good chunk of American capabilities were built around a group of former Nazi rocket scientists like Werner von Braun, some of whom were ardent Nazis, that the US had spirited out of Germany after the end of WWII.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

4plex: “Jekyll Island” is a great read and an educational one, too. A friend of mine in banking gave this book to me after an argument about the Federal Reserve Bank and it’s true function.

I always recommend Zinn’s “People’s History” as well.

Funny you mention Operation Paperclip. My dad was an aerospace engineer and we were talking about the moon landing for a report I was preparing for school. My dad said, “Make sure you tell them we couldn’t have done it without the Nazis” and I was aghast. Turns out, he was right. A good chunk of American capabilities were built around a group of former Nazi rocket scientists like Werner von Braun, some of whom were ardent Nazis, that the US had spirited out of Germany after the end of WWII.

[4plexowner]

“some of whom were ardent Nazis”

some of the history I have read about Werner von Braun and his crew is that they were openly Nazis even after coming to America – had the Swastika on display, etc

[4plexowner]

“some of whom were ardent Nazis”

some of the history I have read about Werner von Braun and his crew is that they were openly Nazis even after coming to America – had the Swastika on display, etc

[4plexowner]

“some of whom were ardent Nazis”

some of the history I have read about Werner von Braun and his crew is that they were openly Nazis even after coming to America – had the Swastika on display, etc

[4plexowner]

“some of whom were ardent Nazis”

some of the history I have read about Werner von Braun and his crew is that they were openly Nazis even after coming to America – had the Swastika on display, etc

[4plexowner]

“some of whom were ardent Nazis”

some of the history I have read about Werner von Braun and his crew is that they were openly Nazis even after coming to America – had the Swastika on display, etc

[UCGal]

[quote=partypup]Just when you thought life in 2009 couldn’t get any creepier. Why would people allow their children to participate in something like this?

These are very scary times…

[/quote]

I watched the video – it was posted back in 2008 before the election. (you say 2009 above).

I don’t see a comparison to Hitler youth or Nazis. The words to the song are only offensive if you think Obama is the anti-Christ. The words are about hope. (Be afraid!)

How is this different than children’s choirs in church or glee clubs? Because the song had a political basis? Would you have felt the same way if they’d been singing “This Land is Your Land”? That was extremely politcal at the time.

I guess I don’t get the reaction of creepiness and fear.

[UCGal]

[quote=partypup]Just when you thought life in 2009 couldn’t get any creepier. Why would people allow their children to participate in something like this?

These are very scary times…

[/quote]

I watched the video – it was posted back in 2008 before the election. (you say 2009 above).

I don’t see a comparison to Hitler youth or Nazis. The words to the song are only offensive if you think Obama is the anti-Christ. The words are about hope. (Be afraid!)

How is this different than children’s choirs in church or glee clubs? Because the song had a political basis? Would you have felt the same way if they’d been singing “This Land is Your Land”? That was extremely politcal at the time.

I guess I don’t get the reaction of creepiness and fear.

[UCGal]

[quote=partypup]Just when you thought life in 2009 couldn’t get any creepier. Why would people allow their children to participate in something like this?

These are very scary times…

[/quote]

I watched the video – it was posted back in 2008 before the election. (you say 2009 above).

I don’t see a comparison to Hitler youth or Nazis. The words to the song are only offensive if you think Obama is the anti-Christ. The words are about hope. (Be afraid!)

How is this different than children’s choirs in church or glee clubs? Because the song had a political basis? Would you have felt the same way if they’d been singing “This Land is Your Land”? That was extremely politcal at the time.

I guess I don’t get the reaction of creepiness and fear.

[UCGal]

[quote=partypup]Just when you thought life in 2009 couldn’t get any creepier. Why would people allow their children to participate in something like this?

These are very scary times…

[/quote]

I watched the video – it was posted back in 2008 before the election. (you say 2009 above).

I don’t see a comparison to Hitler youth or Nazis. The words to the song are only offensive if you think Obama is the anti-Christ. The words are about hope. (Be afraid!)

How is this different than children’s choirs in church or glee clubs? Because the song had a political basis? Would you have felt the same way if they’d been singing “This Land is Your Land”? That was extremely politcal at the time.

I guess I don’t get the reaction of creepiness and fear.

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