OT: “Obama repackages stimulus plans with old promises”

[sdgrrl]

partypup I take you at your word and apologize for throwing you into one category. Seriously and without any sarcasm I apologize.

Sincerely,

Shannon

[partypup]

[quote=Zeitgeist]sdgrrl,

You are the hater. Unlike you who is drawn to the personality, pup is against the policies that are drowning this country in debt, not the man. He is a charming man. Unfortunately, he was not ready for prime time and the undisciplined socialists he has surrounded himself with are hell bent to turn the economic miracle of the United States into Sweden, without the homogeneous population to make it work.As for 2012, they will probably be able to run anyone and win because it will be anyone but Obama by that time. Keep hating and by all means, don’t examine the facts. [/quote]

Right on Zeit. Obama is a one-termer, but I wonder if people will actually run back to the GOP in 2012? It seems to me that if events continue on their present course we might find such widespread dissatisfaction with both parties that the ground will be fertile for the emergence of a viable third party (or parties). What do you think? Remember what Perot was able to do in 1991 when he took advantage of the vacuum between Clinton and Bush? This could happen again, especially if unemployment hangs in double digits for the next few years and the majority of voter start to realize that (a) Obama doesn’t have the answer and has actually made things worse and (b) the GOP has no better plan to fix what ails us. This could be one of the most exciting times politically in our country’s history. To paraphrase Rahm Emanuel, “Never let a crisis go to waste.” If conditions in the next few years don’t allow us to neuter the Dems and the GOP, nothing will.

[partypup]

[quote=Zeitgeist]sdgrrl,

You are the hater. Unlike you who is drawn to the personality, pup is against the policies that are drowning this country in debt, not the man. He is a charming man. Unfortunately, he was not ready for prime time and the undisciplined socialists he has surrounded himself with are hell bent to turn the economic miracle of the United States into Sweden, without the homogeneous population to make it work.As for 2012, they will probably be able to run anyone and win because it will be anyone but Obama by that time. Keep hating and by all means, don’t examine the facts. [/quote]

Right on Zeit. Obama is a one-termer, but I wonder if people will actually run back to the GOP in 2012? It seems to me that if events continue on their present course we might find such widespread dissatisfaction with both parties that the ground will be fertile for the emergence of a viable third party (or parties). What do you think? Remember what Perot was able to do in 1991 when he took advantage of the vacuum between Clinton and Bush? This could happen again, especially if unemployment hangs in double digits for the next few years and the majority of voter start to realize that (a) Obama doesn’t have the answer and has actually made things worse and (b) the GOP has no better plan to fix what ails us. This could be one of the most exciting times politically in our country’s history. To paraphrase Rahm Emanuel, “Never let a crisis go to waste.” If conditions in the next few years don’t allow us to neuter the Dems and the GOP, nothing will.

[partypup]

[quote=Zeitgeist]sdgrrl,

You are the hater. Unlike you who is drawn to the personality, pup is against the policies that are drowning this country in debt, not the man. He is a charming man. Unfortunately, he was not ready for prime time and the undisciplined socialists he has surrounded himself with are hell bent to turn the economic miracle of the United States into Sweden, without the homogeneous population to make it work.As for 2012, they will probably be able to run anyone and win because it will be anyone but Obama by that time. Keep hating and by all means, don’t examine the facts. [/quote]

Right on Zeit. Obama is a one-termer, but I wonder if people will actually run back to the GOP in 2012? It seems to me that if events continue on their present course we might find such widespread dissatisfaction with both parties that the ground will be fertile for the emergence of a viable third party (or parties). What do you think? Remember what Perot was able to do in 1991 when he took advantage of the vacuum between Clinton and Bush? This could happen again, especially if unemployment hangs in double digits for the next few years and the majority of voter start to realize that (a) Obama doesn’t have the answer and has actually made things worse and (b) the GOP has no better plan to fix what ails us. This could be one of the most exciting times politically in our country’s history. To paraphrase Rahm Emanuel, “Never let a crisis go to waste.” If conditions in the next few years don’t allow us to neuter the Dems and the GOP, nothing will.

[partypup]

[quote=Zeitgeist]sdgrrl,

You are the hater. Unlike you who is drawn to the personality, pup is against the policies that are drowning this country in debt, not the man. He is a charming man. Unfortunately, he was not ready for prime time and the undisciplined socialists he has surrounded himself with are hell bent to turn the economic miracle of the United States into Sweden, without the homogeneous population to make it work.As for 2012, they will probably be able to run anyone and win because it will be anyone but Obama by that time. Keep hating and by all means, don’t examine the facts. [/quote]

Right on Zeit. Obama is a one-termer, but I wonder if people will actually run back to the GOP in 2012? It seems to me that if events continue on their present course we might find such widespread dissatisfaction with both parties that the ground will be fertile for the emergence of a viable third party (or parties). What do you think? Remember what Perot was able to do in 1991 when he took advantage of the vacuum between Clinton and Bush? This could happen again, especially if unemployment hangs in double digits for the next few years and the majority of voter start to realize that (a) Obama doesn’t have the answer and has actually made things worse and (b) the GOP has no better plan to fix what ails us. This could be one of the most exciting times politically in our country’s history. To paraphrase Rahm Emanuel, “Never let a crisis go to waste.” If conditions in the next few years don’t allow us to neuter the Dems and the GOP, nothing will.

[partypup]

[quote=Zeitgeist]sdgrrl,

You are the hater. Unlike you who is drawn to the personality, pup is against the policies that are drowning this country in debt, not the man. He is a charming man. Unfortunately, he was not ready for prime time and the undisciplined socialists he has surrounded himself with are hell bent to turn the economic miracle of the United States into Sweden, without the homogeneous population to make it work.As for 2012, they will probably be able to run anyone and win because it will be anyone but Obama by that time. Keep hating and by all means, don’t examine the facts. [/quote]

Right on Zeit. Obama is a one-termer, but I wonder if people will actually run back to the GOP in 2012? It seems to me that if events continue on their present course we might find such widespread dissatisfaction with both parties that the ground will be fertile for the emergence of a viable third party (or parties). What do you think? Remember what Perot was able to do in 1991 when he took advantage of the vacuum between Clinton and Bush? This could happen again, especially if unemployment hangs in double digits for the next few years and the majority of voter start to realize that (a) Obama doesn’t have the answer and has actually made things worse and (b) the GOP has no better plan to fix what ails us. This could be one of the most exciting times politically in our country’s history. To paraphrase Rahm Emanuel, “Never let a crisis go to waste.” If conditions in the next few years don’t allow us to neuter the Dems and the GOP, nothing will.

[sdgrrl]

Now that i’ve put you down and apologized; I would also like your opinion on public school since you have are an independent. Ron Paul sounds ideal, but I can’t grasp privatizing public education. How would this work? I can see how middle class and affluent areas could handle their own systems, but how would this impact lower income areas? I would love to hear any ideas from anyone.

[sdgrrl]

Now that i’ve put you down and apologized; I would also like your opinion on public school since you have are an independent. Ron Paul sounds ideal, but I can’t grasp privatizing public education. How would this work? I can see how middle class and affluent areas could handle their own systems, but how would this impact lower income areas? I would love to hear any ideas from anyone.

[sdgrrl]

Now that i’ve put you down and apologized; I would also like your opinion on public school since you have are an independent. Ron Paul sounds ideal, but I can’t grasp privatizing public education. How would this work? I can see how middle class and affluent areas could handle their own systems, but how would this impact lower income areas? I would love to hear any ideas from anyone.

[sdgrrl]

Now that i’ve put you down and apologized; I would also like your opinion on public school since you have are an independent. Ron Paul sounds ideal, but I can’t grasp privatizing public education. How would this work? I can see how middle class and affluent areas could handle their own systems, but how would this impact lower income areas? I would love to hear any ideas from anyone.

[sdgrrl]

Now that i’ve put you down and apologized; I would also like your opinion on public school since you have are an independent. Ron Paul sounds ideal, but I can’t grasp privatizing public education. How would this work? I can see how middle class and affluent areas could handle their own systems, but how would this impact lower income areas? I would love to hear any ideas from anyone.

[partypup]

[quote=sdgrrl]Once again its all Obama’s fault. Your name says it all republican partypup. Keep hating! [/quote]

ROTFLMAO! Are you even remotely serious? You think I’m a REPUBLICAN?? How long have you been on this board, dear? Have you heard of “in-de-pen-dents”? Get to know us, because we are the fastest growing bloc in this country, my friend. Lemme ask you something: do you imagine we live in a happy little country with two fully-functioning political parties? Do you assume that if someone raises their voice in dissent against a Democrat then that person must necessarily be a Republican? Sdgirl, I have voted Democrat for as long as I can remember. I stopped abruptly after the 2006 Democratic takeover in Congress that led to absolutely zip, nada, zilch – except more spending, more war and fewer liberties. Me – a Republican?? Well, I suppose some of my GOP brethren wouldn’t be so happy to learn that I took my conservative ass to D.C. in January 2005 to protest Bush’s inauguration in sub-zero temperatures and even filmed a short documentary featuring the GOP idiots who were lining the streets in support even as the Iraq war had cleared revealed itself to be a failure. That’s what a Republican does, right? Oh, and by the way, and I voted for Gore and refused to go to the office for two days following the 2000 “election” in protest of the Supreme Court’s decision to appoint Bush as our president.

You just go about your happy and clueless life, believing that two separate political parties really exist, that the world is divided into good and evil, that good guys and bad guys fight each other and your team (the Dems) are the “good” guys, and that anyone who hates Obama (including blacks like myself) are Republican, “plants”, racists, or whatever. Enjoy that fantasy – while it lasts. Because it ain’t going to last much longer at this rate. In all fairness, I can sort of understand how you find yourself falling into this trap. It’s probably easer to convince yourself that anyone who hates a member of your team is evil. Why? Because to face the truth – that there are current and former members of your own team who are SERIOUSLY unhappy and fed up with the hypocritical shit your team leaders are pulling – probably screws with your neat little paradigm. All I can say is it’s no wonder the Dems and the GOP have been able to f*** up this country to this degree. In a country filled with voters with such a cartoonish view of politics, these crooks can manipulate people like you into believing anything they want.

And by the way…how does my name relate to my political affiliation? Are you implying that those who like to party are Republicans…?

And you might take note that I’m not the only one “hating” on this board. As you can clearly see from the other posts in this thread, you are the one who seems to be out of step with the new reality dawning on even the most casual observer: Obama is a fraud and a crook.

[partypup]

[quote=sdgrrl]Once again its all Obama’s fault. Your name says it all republican partypup. Keep hating! [/quote]

ROTFLMAO! Are you even remotely serious? You think I’m a REPUBLICAN?? How long have you been on this board, dear? Have you heard of “in-de-pen-dents”? Get to know us, because we are the fastest growing bloc in this country, my friend. Lemme ask you something: do you imagine we live in a happy little country with two fully-functioning political parties? Do you assume that if someone raises their voice in dissent against a Democrat then that person must necessarily be a Republican? Sdgirl, I have voted Democrat for as long as I can remember. I stopped abruptly after the 2006 Democratic takeover in Congress that led to absolutely zip, nada, zilch – except more spending, more war and fewer liberties. Me – a Republican?? Well, I suppose some of my GOP brethren wouldn’t be so happy to learn that I took my conservative ass to D.C. in January 2005 to protest Bush’s inauguration in sub-zero temperatures and even filmed a short documentary featuring the GOP idiots who were lining the streets in support even as the Iraq war had cleared revealed itself to be a failure. That’s what a Republican does, right? Oh, and by the way, and I voted for Gore and refused to go to the office for two days following the 2000 “election” in protest of the Supreme Court’s decision to appoint Bush as our president.

You just go about your happy and clueless life, believing that two separate political parties really exist, that the world is divided into good and evil, that good guys and bad guys fight each other and your team (the Dems) are the “good” guys, and that anyone who hates Obama (including blacks like myself) are Republican, “plants”, racists, or whatever. Enjoy that fantasy – while it lasts. Because it ain’t going to last much longer at this rate. In all fairness, I can sort of understand how you find yourself falling into this trap. It’s probably easer to convince yourself that anyone who hates a member of your team is evil. Why? Because to face the truth – that there are current and former members of your own team who are SERIOUSLY unhappy and fed up with the hypocritical shit your team leaders are pulling – probably screws with your neat little paradigm. All I can say is it’s no wonder the Dems and the GOP have been able to f*** up this country to this degree. In a country filled with voters with such a cartoonish view of politics, these crooks can manipulate people like you into believing anything they want.

And by the way…how does my name relate to my political affiliation? Are you implying that those who like to party are Republicans…?

And you might take note that I’m not the only one “hating” on this board. As you can clearly see from the other posts in this thread, you are the one who seems to be out of step with the new reality dawning on even the most casual observer: Obama is a fraud and a crook.

[partypup]

[quote=sdgrrl]Once again its all Obama’s fault. Your name says it all republican partypup. Keep hating! [/quote]

ROTFLMAO! Are you even remotely serious? You think I’m a REPUBLICAN?? How long have you been on this board, dear? Have you heard of “in-de-pen-dents”? Get to know us, because we are the fastest growing bloc in this country, my friend. Lemme ask you something: do you imagine we live in a happy little country with two fully-functioning political parties? Do you assume that if someone raises their voice in dissent against a Democrat then that person must necessarily be a Republican? Sdgirl, I have voted Democrat for as long as I can remember. I stopped abruptly after the 2006 Democratic takeover in Congress that led to absolutely zip, nada, zilch – except more spending, more war and fewer liberties. Me – a Republican?? Well, I suppose some of my GOP brethren wouldn’t be so happy to learn that I took my conservative ass to D.C. in January 2005 to protest Bush’s inauguration in sub-zero temperatures and even filmed a short documentary featuring the GOP idiots who were lining the streets in support even as the Iraq war had cleared revealed itself to be a failure. That’s what a Republican does, right? Oh, and by the way, and I voted for Gore and refused to go to the office for two days following the 2000 “election” in protest of the Supreme Court’s decision to appoint Bush as our president.

You just go about your happy and clueless life, believing that two separate political parties really exist, that the world is divided into good and evil, that good guys and bad guys fight each other and your team (the Dems) are the “good” guys, and that anyone who hates Obama (including blacks like myself) are Republican, “plants”, racists, or whatever. Enjoy that fantasy – while it lasts. Because it ain’t going to last much longer at this rate. In all fairness, I can sort of understand how you find yourself falling into this trap. It’s probably easer to convince yourself that anyone who hates a member of your team is evil. Why? Because to face the truth – that there are current and former members of your own team who are SERIOUSLY unhappy and fed up with the hypocritical shit your team leaders are pulling – probably screws with your neat little paradigm. All I can say is it’s no wonder the Dems and the GOP have been able to f*** up this country to this degree. In a country filled with voters with such a cartoonish view of politics, these crooks can manipulate people like you into believing anything they want.

And by the way…how does my name relate to my political affiliation? Are you implying that those who like to party are Republicans…?

And you might take note that I’m not the only one “hating” on this board. As you can clearly see from the other posts in this thread, you are the one who seems to be out of step with the new reality dawning on even the most casual observer: Obama is a fraud and a crook.

[partypup]

[quote=sdgrrl]Once again its all Obama’s fault. Your name says it all republican partypup. Keep hating! [/quote]

ROTFLMAO! Are you even remotely serious? You think I’m a REPUBLICAN?? How long have you been on this board, dear? Have you heard of “in-de-pen-dents”? Get to know us, because we are the fastest growing bloc in this country, my friend. Lemme ask you something: do you imagine we live in a happy little country with two fully-functioning political parties? Do you assume that if someone raises their voice in dissent against a Democrat then that person must necessarily be a Republican? Sdgirl, I have voted Democrat for as long as I can remember. I stopped abruptly after the 2006 Democratic takeover in Congress that led to absolutely zip, nada, zilch – except more spending, more war and fewer liberties. Me – a Republican?? Well, I suppose some of my GOP brethren wouldn’t be so happy to learn that I took my conservative ass to D.C. in January 2005 to protest Bush’s inauguration in sub-zero temperatures and even filmed a short documentary featuring the GOP idiots who were lining the streets in support even as the Iraq war had cleared revealed itself to be a failure. That’s what a Republican does, right? Oh, and by the way, and I voted for Gore and refused to go to the office for two days following the 2000 “election” in protest of the Supreme Court’s decision to appoint Bush as our president.

You just go about your happy and clueless life, believing that two separate political parties really exist, that the world is divided into good and evil, that good guys and bad guys fight each other and your team (the Dems) are the “good” guys, and that anyone who hates Obama (including blacks like myself) are Republican, “plants”, racists, or whatever. Enjoy that fantasy – while it lasts. Because it ain’t going to last much longer at this rate. In all fairness, I can sort of understand how you find yourself falling into this trap. It’s probably easer to convince yourself that anyone who hates a member of your team is evil. Why? Because to face the truth – that there are current and former members of your own team who are SERIOUSLY unhappy and fed up with the hypocritical shit your team leaders are pulling – probably screws with your neat little paradigm. All I can say is it’s no wonder the Dems and the GOP have been able to f*** up this country to this degree. In a country filled with voters with such a cartoonish view of politics, these crooks can manipulate people like you into believing anything they want.

And by the way…how does my name relate to my political affiliation? Are you implying that those who like to party are Republicans…?

And you might take note that I’m not the only one “hating” on this board. As you can clearly see from the other posts in this thread, you are the one who seems to be out of step with the new reality dawning on even the most casual observer: Obama is a fraud and a crook.

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