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October 8, 2009 at 9:43 AM #466425October 8, 2009 at 11:09 AM #465683partypupParticipant
[quote=afx114]Using Glen Beck as an economic indicator, has gold officially jumped the shark?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzjjHzO8aeI
Kinda interesting in that Beck has lost all of his advertising revenue except for those gold scrap-for-cash spamfomercials.[/quote]
Using the actions of our bond purchasers as an economic indicator (which may be a tad more reliable than the Glenn Beck Index), gold has not jumped the shark. In fact, the shark is heading towards U.S. bonds, which are only months or weeks away from plummeting headlong into the water and being feasted upon by said shark:
“Treasury Bonds Decline After $12 Billion Auction of Securities”
“A worse-than-expected auction brings into question the benign inflation expectation that investors have,โ said Anshul Pradhan, an interest-rate strategist in New York at primary dealer Barclays Plc, before the auction. โIt reignites concerns about the strength and sustainability of the rally weโve seen lately.โ
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ayD2HTICB35s
No one wants our shit anymore, and the tepid demand that we do have for Treasuries comes with heavy Fed purchasing. Instead of focusing on the gold bubble (which has, incidentally, been bubbling for about 7 years now), perhaps the focus should more appropriately be placed on the Treasury bubble. Because that puppy is about to pop. When and if Treasury demand becomes robust WITHOUT Fed monetization; when and IF our $10 trillion debt is sliced to something more manageable that can be paid off in, oh, say three generations or less; when and IF *real* unemployment returns to 7% and we actually start creating thousands of jobs every month instead of using 250,000; when and IF the markets can rally without having rates held to ridiculous and unsustainably low levels; when and IF manufacturing returns to this country in a volume that can sustain a viable middle class, THEN gold may reverse its course.
Until then, it is headed for the moon, and you need to just deal with that fact. Because if you hate gold now, then you’re really going to hate it by the end of the year ๐
October 8, 2009 at 11:09 AM #465872partypupParticipant[quote=afx114]Using Glen Beck as an economic indicator, has gold officially jumped the shark?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzjjHzO8aeI
Kinda interesting in that Beck has lost all of his advertising revenue except for those gold scrap-for-cash spamfomercials.[/quote]
Using the actions of our bond purchasers as an economic indicator (which may be a tad more reliable than the Glenn Beck Index), gold has not jumped the shark. In fact, the shark is heading towards U.S. bonds, which are only months or weeks away from plummeting headlong into the water and being feasted upon by said shark:
“Treasury Bonds Decline After $12 Billion Auction of Securities”
“A worse-than-expected auction brings into question the benign inflation expectation that investors have,โ said Anshul Pradhan, an interest-rate strategist in New York at primary dealer Barclays Plc, before the auction. โIt reignites concerns about the strength and sustainability of the rally weโve seen lately.โ
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ayD2HTICB35s
No one wants our shit anymore, and the tepid demand that we do have for Treasuries comes with heavy Fed purchasing. Instead of focusing on the gold bubble (which has, incidentally, been bubbling for about 7 years now), perhaps the focus should more appropriately be placed on the Treasury bubble. Because that puppy is about to pop. When and if Treasury demand becomes robust WITHOUT Fed monetization; when and IF our $10 trillion debt is sliced to something more manageable that can be paid off in, oh, say three generations or less; when and IF *real* unemployment returns to 7% and we actually start creating thousands of jobs every month instead of using 250,000; when and IF the markets can rally without having rates held to ridiculous and unsustainably low levels; when and IF manufacturing returns to this country in a volume that can sustain a viable middle class, THEN gold may reverse its course.
Until then, it is headed for the moon, and you need to just deal with that fact. Because if you hate gold now, then you’re really going to hate it by the end of the year ๐
October 8, 2009 at 11:09 AM #466229partypupParticipant[quote=afx114]Using Glen Beck as an economic indicator, has gold officially jumped the shark?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzjjHzO8aeI
Kinda interesting in that Beck has lost all of his advertising revenue except for those gold scrap-for-cash spamfomercials.[/quote]
Using the actions of our bond purchasers as an economic indicator (which may be a tad more reliable than the Glenn Beck Index), gold has not jumped the shark. In fact, the shark is heading towards U.S. bonds, which are only months or weeks away from plummeting headlong into the water and being feasted upon by said shark:
“Treasury Bonds Decline After $12 Billion Auction of Securities”
“A worse-than-expected auction brings into question the benign inflation expectation that investors have,โ said Anshul Pradhan, an interest-rate strategist in New York at primary dealer Barclays Plc, before the auction. โIt reignites concerns about the strength and sustainability of the rally weโve seen lately.โ
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ayD2HTICB35s
No one wants our shit anymore, and the tepid demand that we do have for Treasuries comes with heavy Fed purchasing. Instead of focusing on the gold bubble (which has, incidentally, been bubbling for about 7 years now), perhaps the focus should more appropriately be placed on the Treasury bubble. Because that puppy is about to pop. When and if Treasury demand becomes robust WITHOUT Fed monetization; when and IF our $10 trillion debt is sliced to something more manageable that can be paid off in, oh, say three generations or less; when and IF *real* unemployment returns to 7% and we actually start creating thousands of jobs every month instead of using 250,000; when and IF the markets can rally without having rates held to ridiculous and unsustainably low levels; when and IF manufacturing returns to this country in a volume that can sustain a viable middle class, THEN gold may reverse its course.
Until then, it is headed for the moon, and you need to just deal with that fact. Because if you hate gold now, then you’re really going to hate it by the end of the year ๐
October 8, 2009 at 11:09 AM #466302partypupParticipant[quote=afx114]Using Glen Beck as an economic indicator, has gold officially jumped the shark?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzjjHzO8aeI
Kinda interesting in that Beck has lost all of his advertising revenue except for those gold scrap-for-cash spamfomercials.[/quote]
Using the actions of our bond purchasers as an economic indicator (which may be a tad more reliable than the Glenn Beck Index), gold has not jumped the shark. In fact, the shark is heading towards U.S. bonds, which are only months or weeks away from plummeting headlong into the water and being feasted upon by said shark:
“Treasury Bonds Decline After $12 Billion Auction of Securities”
“A worse-than-expected auction brings into question the benign inflation expectation that investors have,โ said Anshul Pradhan, an interest-rate strategist in New York at primary dealer Barclays Plc, before the auction. โIt reignites concerns about the strength and sustainability of the rally weโve seen lately.โ
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ayD2HTICB35s
No one wants our shit anymore, and the tepid demand that we do have for Treasuries comes with heavy Fed purchasing. Instead of focusing on the gold bubble (which has, incidentally, been bubbling for about 7 years now), perhaps the focus should more appropriately be placed on the Treasury bubble. Because that puppy is about to pop. When and if Treasury demand becomes robust WITHOUT Fed monetization; when and IF our $10 trillion debt is sliced to something more manageable that can be paid off in, oh, say three generations or less; when and IF *real* unemployment returns to 7% and we actually start creating thousands of jobs every month instead of using 250,000; when and IF the markets can rally without having rates held to ridiculous and unsustainably low levels; when and IF manufacturing returns to this country in a volume that can sustain a viable middle class, THEN gold may reverse its course.
Until then, it is headed for the moon, and you need to just deal with that fact. Because if you hate gold now, then you’re really going to hate it by the end of the year ๐
October 8, 2009 at 11:09 AM #466513partypupParticipant[quote=afx114]Using Glen Beck as an economic indicator, has gold officially jumped the shark?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzjjHzO8aeI
Kinda interesting in that Beck has lost all of his advertising revenue except for those gold scrap-for-cash spamfomercials.[/quote]
Using the actions of our bond purchasers as an economic indicator (which may be a tad more reliable than the Glenn Beck Index), gold has not jumped the shark. In fact, the shark is heading towards U.S. bonds, which are only months or weeks away from plummeting headlong into the water and being feasted upon by said shark:
“Treasury Bonds Decline After $12 Billion Auction of Securities”
“A worse-than-expected auction brings into question the benign inflation expectation that investors have,โ said Anshul Pradhan, an interest-rate strategist in New York at primary dealer Barclays Plc, before the auction. โIt reignites concerns about the strength and sustainability of the rally weโve seen lately.โ
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ayD2HTICB35s
No one wants our shit anymore, and the tepid demand that we do have for Treasuries comes with heavy Fed purchasing. Instead of focusing on the gold bubble (which has, incidentally, been bubbling for about 7 years now), perhaps the focus should more appropriately be placed on the Treasury bubble. Because that puppy is about to pop. When and if Treasury demand becomes robust WITHOUT Fed monetization; when and IF our $10 trillion debt is sliced to something more manageable that can be paid off in, oh, say three generations or less; when and IF *real* unemployment returns to 7% and we actually start creating thousands of jobs every month instead of using 250,000; when and IF the markets can rally without having rates held to ridiculous and unsustainably low levels; when and IF manufacturing returns to this country in a volume that can sustain a viable middle class, THEN gold may reverse its course.
Until then, it is headed for the moon, and you need to just deal with that fact. Because if you hate gold now, then you’re really going to hate it by the end of the year ๐
October 8, 2009 at 11:19 AM #465703partypupParticipant[quote=equalizer]
Your cogent analysis is not going to sway anyone. Add some color to your story like this:“Intuitive researcher and lecturer David Wilcock discussed his prophetic dreams and confirmations of major social realignment beginning this fall, potential for an ET disclosure from the U.S.
…Illuminati’s plan to reduce the world’s population through economic collapse, Swine Flu, and war & conflagration. His “inside sources” have informed him that America is on the verge of a horrific set of economic events, including the dismantling of the Federal Reserve.”
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/10/06%5B/quote%5D
Why waste any time providing “color” or listening to Wilcock’s crap about prophecy when the data released by the U.S. gov’t, itself, provides all the evidence necessary?
You want cogent analysis? Ride down any street and count the number of “Closed” and “For Lease” signs. Do the math and use your common sense. Don’t listen to quacks spouting drivel about prophecy.
Swine flu and war are other topics that have no place in this discussion.
October 8, 2009 at 11:19 AM #465893partypupParticipant[quote=equalizer]
Your cogent analysis is not going to sway anyone. Add some color to your story like this:“Intuitive researcher and lecturer David Wilcock discussed his prophetic dreams and confirmations of major social realignment beginning this fall, potential for an ET disclosure from the U.S.
…Illuminati’s plan to reduce the world’s population through economic collapse, Swine Flu, and war & conflagration. His “inside sources” have informed him that America is on the verge of a horrific set of economic events, including the dismantling of the Federal Reserve.”
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/10/06%5B/quote%5D
Why waste any time providing “color” or listening to Wilcock’s crap about prophecy when the data released by the U.S. gov’t, itself, provides all the evidence necessary?
You want cogent analysis? Ride down any street and count the number of “Closed” and “For Lease” signs. Do the math and use your common sense. Don’t listen to quacks spouting drivel about prophecy.
Swine flu and war are other topics that have no place in this discussion.
October 8, 2009 at 11:19 AM #466249partypupParticipant[quote=equalizer]
Your cogent analysis is not going to sway anyone. Add some color to your story like this:“Intuitive researcher and lecturer David Wilcock discussed his prophetic dreams and confirmations of major social realignment beginning this fall, potential for an ET disclosure from the U.S.
…Illuminati’s plan to reduce the world’s population through economic collapse, Swine Flu, and war & conflagration. His “inside sources” have informed him that America is on the verge of a horrific set of economic events, including the dismantling of the Federal Reserve.”
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/10/06%5B/quote%5D
Why waste any time providing “color” or listening to Wilcock’s crap about prophecy when the data released by the U.S. gov’t, itself, provides all the evidence necessary?
You want cogent analysis? Ride down any street and count the number of “Closed” and “For Lease” signs. Do the math and use your common sense. Don’t listen to quacks spouting drivel about prophecy.
Swine flu and war are other topics that have no place in this discussion.
October 8, 2009 at 11:19 AM #466322partypupParticipant[quote=equalizer]
Your cogent analysis is not going to sway anyone. Add some color to your story like this:“Intuitive researcher and lecturer David Wilcock discussed his prophetic dreams and confirmations of major social realignment beginning this fall, potential for an ET disclosure from the U.S.
…Illuminati’s plan to reduce the world’s population through economic collapse, Swine Flu, and war & conflagration. His “inside sources” have informed him that America is on the verge of a horrific set of economic events, including the dismantling of the Federal Reserve.”
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/10/06%5B/quote%5D
Why waste any time providing “color” or listening to Wilcock’s crap about prophecy when the data released by the U.S. gov’t, itself, provides all the evidence necessary?
You want cogent analysis? Ride down any street and count the number of “Closed” and “For Lease” signs. Do the math and use your common sense. Don’t listen to quacks spouting drivel about prophecy.
Swine flu and war are other topics that have no place in this discussion.
October 8, 2009 at 11:19 AM #466532partypupParticipant[quote=equalizer]
Your cogent analysis is not going to sway anyone. Add some color to your story like this:“Intuitive researcher and lecturer David Wilcock discussed his prophetic dreams and confirmations of major social realignment beginning this fall, potential for an ET disclosure from the U.S.
…Illuminati’s plan to reduce the world’s population through economic collapse, Swine Flu, and war & conflagration. His “inside sources” have informed him that America is on the verge of a horrific set of economic events, including the dismantling of the Federal Reserve.”
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/10/06%5B/quote%5D
Why waste any time providing “color” or listening to Wilcock’s crap about prophecy when the data released by the U.S. gov’t, itself, provides all the evidence necessary?
You want cogent analysis? Ride down any street and count the number of “Closed” and “For Lease” signs. Do the math and use your common sense. Don’t listen to quacks spouting drivel about prophecy.
Swine flu and war are other topics that have no place in this discussion.
October 9, 2009 at 4:22 AM #466058ArrayaParticipantpartypup,
Monetary systems and war a very interrelated. They are both means of allocating resources. When one breaks down there is usually a war. That is kind of how it has worked in the past.
The dollar centric system has been a huge advantage to it’s citizens. Allowing them to allocate 25% of the worlds resources with 4% of the population. It was a pretty nice system for US citizens.
You all ready get the sense from some posters that using the military is good option to keep enforcing the use of the dollar system.
Now extrapolate that to the rest of the country and the political ramifications of 99% of the population’s life style getting cut in half.
You’re going to have half the country calling for blood, which is the probably the same half of the country that suspects Obama may not be an eligible president. It’s a dangerous situation.
At this point, to me, it’s obviously that dollar-centric world order is ending . I’m more interested in the politics of it than anything else.
Rep Grayson and Paul just sent a letter to Obama to stop the confirmation hearings of Bernake. Obama just re-appointed him a few months ago. I’m pretty sure Obama knew he was not going to be confirmed.
The Audit the Fed bill, looks like it is being pushed through. This is the same bill that the Fed and top banks have warned congress that it would crush the global economy and dollar if pursued.
The judge on the lawsuit against the Fed just ruled in favor of Bloomberg to take a look at it’s books. They have until november. Again, they are threatening to destroy the dollar and global economy if forced to open their books. Really, they said it not me.
Besides the usually suspects in Russia, China, etc. You have France, Germany and Japan basing the Fed.
Now think people. If the Fed and banks said that the dollar and global economy would be crushed if their books were looked at, what do we think will happen when they are. It’s going to happen in a month or so.
Obviously, a dollar dislocation put’s Obama in a sticky situation, being that he has been openly supportive of Bernake. Which really, he had no choice in the matter.
I’m sticking with my prediction form the beginning of this year that Bernake and Giethner will be gone by march 2010.
October 9, 2009 at 4:22 AM #466247ArrayaParticipantpartypup,
Monetary systems and war a very interrelated. They are both means of allocating resources. When one breaks down there is usually a war. That is kind of how it has worked in the past.
The dollar centric system has been a huge advantage to it’s citizens. Allowing them to allocate 25% of the worlds resources with 4% of the population. It was a pretty nice system for US citizens.
You all ready get the sense from some posters that using the military is good option to keep enforcing the use of the dollar system.
Now extrapolate that to the rest of the country and the political ramifications of 99% of the population’s life style getting cut in half.
You’re going to have half the country calling for blood, which is the probably the same half of the country that suspects Obama may not be an eligible president. It’s a dangerous situation.
At this point, to me, it’s obviously that dollar-centric world order is ending . I’m more interested in the politics of it than anything else.
Rep Grayson and Paul just sent a letter to Obama to stop the confirmation hearings of Bernake. Obama just re-appointed him a few months ago. I’m pretty sure Obama knew he was not going to be confirmed.
The Audit the Fed bill, looks like it is being pushed through. This is the same bill that the Fed and top banks have warned congress that it would crush the global economy and dollar if pursued.
The judge on the lawsuit against the Fed just ruled in favor of Bloomberg to take a look at it’s books. They have until november. Again, they are threatening to destroy the dollar and global economy if forced to open their books. Really, they said it not me.
Besides the usually suspects in Russia, China, etc. You have France, Germany and Japan basing the Fed.
Now think people. If the Fed and banks said that the dollar and global economy would be crushed if their books were looked at, what do we think will happen when they are. It’s going to happen in a month or so.
Obviously, a dollar dislocation put’s Obama in a sticky situation, being that he has been openly supportive of Bernake. Which really, he had no choice in the matter.
I’m sticking with my prediction form the beginning of this year that Bernake and Giethner will be gone by march 2010.
October 9, 2009 at 4:22 AM #466600ArrayaParticipantpartypup,
Monetary systems and war a very interrelated. They are both means of allocating resources. When one breaks down there is usually a war. That is kind of how it has worked in the past.
The dollar centric system has been a huge advantage to it’s citizens. Allowing them to allocate 25% of the worlds resources with 4% of the population. It was a pretty nice system for US citizens.
You all ready get the sense from some posters that using the military is good option to keep enforcing the use of the dollar system.
Now extrapolate that to the rest of the country and the political ramifications of 99% of the population’s life style getting cut in half.
You’re going to have half the country calling for blood, which is the probably the same half of the country that suspects Obama may not be an eligible president. It’s a dangerous situation.
At this point, to me, it’s obviously that dollar-centric world order is ending . I’m more interested in the politics of it than anything else.
Rep Grayson and Paul just sent a letter to Obama to stop the confirmation hearings of Bernake. Obama just re-appointed him a few months ago. I’m pretty sure Obama knew he was not going to be confirmed.
The Audit the Fed bill, looks like it is being pushed through. This is the same bill that the Fed and top banks have warned congress that it would crush the global economy and dollar if pursued.
The judge on the lawsuit against the Fed just ruled in favor of Bloomberg to take a look at it’s books. They have until november. Again, they are threatening to destroy the dollar and global economy if forced to open their books. Really, they said it not me.
Besides the usually suspects in Russia, China, etc. You have France, Germany and Japan basing the Fed.
Now think people. If the Fed and banks said that the dollar and global economy would be crushed if their books were looked at, what do we think will happen when they are. It’s going to happen in a month or so.
Obviously, a dollar dislocation put’s Obama in a sticky situation, being that he has been openly supportive of Bernake. Which really, he had no choice in the matter.
I’m sticking with my prediction form the beginning of this year that Bernake and Giethner will be gone by march 2010.
October 9, 2009 at 4:22 AM #466671ArrayaParticipantpartypup,
Monetary systems and war a very interrelated. They are both means of allocating resources. When one breaks down there is usually a war. That is kind of how it has worked in the past.
The dollar centric system has been a huge advantage to it’s citizens. Allowing them to allocate 25% of the worlds resources with 4% of the population. It was a pretty nice system for US citizens.
You all ready get the sense from some posters that using the military is good option to keep enforcing the use of the dollar system.
Now extrapolate that to the rest of the country and the political ramifications of 99% of the population’s life style getting cut in half.
You’re going to have half the country calling for blood, which is the probably the same half of the country that suspects Obama may not be an eligible president. It’s a dangerous situation.
At this point, to me, it’s obviously that dollar-centric world order is ending . I’m more interested in the politics of it than anything else.
Rep Grayson and Paul just sent a letter to Obama to stop the confirmation hearings of Bernake. Obama just re-appointed him a few months ago. I’m pretty sure Obama knew he was not going to be confirmed.
The Audit the Fed bill, looks like it is being pushed through. This is the same bill that the Fed and top banks have warned congress that it would crush the global economy and dollar if pursued.
The judge on the lawsuit against the Fed just ruled in favor of Bloomberg to take a look at it’s books. They have until november. Again, they are threatening to destroy the dollar and global economy if forced to open their books. Really, they said it not me.
Besides the usually suspects in Russia, China, etc. You have France, Germany and Japan basing the Fed.
Now think people. If the Fed and banks said that the dollar and global economy would be crushed if their books were looked at, what do we think will happen when they are. It’s going to happen in a month or so.
Obviously, a dollar dislocation put’s Obama in a sticky situation, being that he has been openly supportive of Bernake. Which really, he had no choice in the matter.
I’m sticking with my prediction form the beginning of this year that Bernake and Giethner will be gone by march 2010.
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